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On March 01 2012 12:38 gunman103 wrote: I agree. However, we will lose our number advantage more rapidly if we do lynch someone just for the sake of lynching. If there's no potential for information to be gained by lynching him, then we should not do so. No. We are better off to RL lynch someone. Town typically cannot kill players, so RL every day is required unless it cannot be afforded. | ||
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On March 01 2012 13:04 EchelonTee wrote: don't edit!!!!!!!! Seriously don't edit. Your words have to be set in stone, or you could just go back and edit whatever you want to be un-said. This is a warning. I'll take this opportunity to invite everyone to re-read all of the rules carefully, please ^^ Sorry I didn't know. I won't edit anymore. | ||
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On March 01 2012 13:10 trackd00r wrote: Suffciency, If you are willing to random lynch anyone, which player it would be? I hardly see a point of RL someone later on this day because we already might have better reads in that moment. If you want to take this action, throw a name by now. I don't really like the idea though. Going to bed now. See you in about 9 hours. I actually FoS gunman103 right now for suggesting no RL. | ||
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Anyway, since it's not the time to vote yet, we might as well wait until everyone talked a few lines. | ||
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On March 02 2012 12:59 gunman103 wrote: Can you at least give us a reason for wanting to lynch me and Oto? Can you read what I wrote before? | ||
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On March 02 2012 10:36 Maverick32x wrote: Okay guys. This is ALL of my reads over the past day. Let me know what you think. If any is inaccurate let me know, but I broke it down into looking at each player's tendency to agree/disagree with someone else to see if there are any patterns of "allegiance" that I can spot. I also looked at behaviors that can be interpreted as either Mafia or Town. I obviously couldn't hit on everything, but these were the things that jumped out at me.. feel free to agree/disagree all you'd like. Lastly, I put in some miscellaneous information that I just thought was interesting or factual about a stance that the person had. I obviously didn't write stuff about myself, but if you'd like to create one for me, go ahead. 1.) gunman103 – + Show Spoiler + Agrees with: Dimx2 Disagrees with: Sufficiency. Mafia Behaviors: A kind of wishy-washy with his policy. Starts to fall to RL as a last resort if necessary. Though previously stated he wants to lynch for info, he now is considering a RL, but would prefer a ‘lurker’. Town Behaviors: Doesn’t want to lynch unless there is information to be gained. Repeats this information. Reinforces this idea a third time Misc: Against random lynching. Should only lynch for info. . 2.) Mementoss – + Show Spoiler + Agrees with: Maverickx2 Disagrees with: Trackd00r but takes it back. Sufficiency, OtoshimonUx3, Friedchicken, Pablols Mafia Behaviors: Possibly keeping attention off himself by focusing on others, Especially OtoshimonoU. Town Behaviors: Against Random Lynch- presents a well thought out argument. Continues to detail out his reasoning. Consistent with the people he disagrees with and the people he suspects. Misc: Claims himself as one of the most active. True? 3.) Rainmaker5 + Show Spoiler + Agrees with: Dissagrees with: Mafia Behaviors: Willing to sac a townie. Responds very late with little substancex2 Town Behaviors: Misc: Wants to move onto a new topic since random lynch has been discussed to death. 4.) Pablols – + Show Spoiler + Agrees with: Disagrees with: Trakd00r-> takes it back(after being exonerated by him), lightly disagrees with Maverick, Mementossx4 Mafia Behaviors: Brings it back to the RL, despite everyone moving on from it. Rambles on a bit at this point. Town Behaviors: Decently argues for a move to lynch in looking at the long term perspective, willing to take a risk. Puts a lot of effort into pointing out that Mementoss if taking his words out of context. Wants to lynch for a purpose. Misc: Randomly accuses Mementoss seemingly because he is upset that he was accussed. A bit overaction. 5.) Tiystus – + Show Spoiler + Agrees with: Disagrees with: Mementoss Mafia Behaviors: Indecisive. Encouraging risky/chaotic behaviors.Still contradictory statements. Says Dim is town, but then also accuses him of possibly being mafia. Brings back the RL discussion (though he has been mia for awhile) Town Behaviors: Would rather go with a hunch than a RL, but feels a lynch is necessary or town will lose. Misc: all for random lynch- posts that he’s reluctant. Sticks with reluctance, but again is on the “we need to do something NOW train” Back tracks and now is saying RL is a last resort. Didn't answer numerous questions directed at him. 6.) DimmuKlok – + Show Spoiler + Agrees with: Trackd00r, Mementoss Disagress with Mafia Behaviors: First post indicates a strong desire to try to push for a lynch. Town Behaviors: Still thinks we could lynch a lurker to ‘flush out mafia’, but doesn’t want to randomly do it. Recognizes that we are talking circles about Random lynching or not and wants to change topics. Misc:wants to lynch on day 1. But wants to see active posters and seems to want to decide on someone. Against random lynching though. 7.) Sufficiency –. + Show Spoiler + Mafia Behaviors: Wants to RL- pushes this hard. Accusses without any evidence or reasoning. Town Behaviors: Agrees with: Disagrees with: Gunman, OtoshimonU 8.) friedchicken – + Show Spoiler + Mafia Behaviors: poor logic, wants to lynch no matter what. Flips kind of. Would be willing to lynch a lurker, not necessarily random. There could be only town that are lurking however, so this could be a setup. Town Behaviors: 9.) Maverick32x 10.) trackd00r – + Show Spoiler + Agrees with: Pablols Disagrees with: Sufficiency- then flips to say he is town. OtoshimonUx2 Mafia Behaviors: Seems eager in the initial post to try to get people to accuse others right away. Uses past game as evidence of his ability to hunt down mafia to try to set up innocence. Brings up that the activity is too low, but hasn’t posted much. Town Behaviors: Initial post is encouraging and pro-town. Continues this trend, wants to hear people talk. Doesn’t want to RL Misc:Seems positive about staying active. Focuses on wording as his evidence. 11.) OtoshimonoU- + Show Spoiler + Agrees with: Disagrees with: Trakd00r and Dim Mafia Behaviors: Wishy-washy. Willing to along with everyone, seems to be trying to lie low. Town Behaviors: Recognizes the disadvantages of a first day lynch and feels its too hasty. Misc: Against first day lynching since town is at disadvantage- but will go along if everyone else will do it. Defends Trak’s usage of “accusing” and seems to support him. 12.) Beorn1 + Show Spoiler + Mafia Behaviors: Longest Lurker by far. First post has 0 content. Town Behaviors: How long have you been playing mafia, Maverick32x? | ||
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On March 02 2012 17:59 DimmuKlok wrote: Sufficiency, while you're here could you explain to me in more detail why you chose OtoshimonoU and gunman103? gutty feelings. | ||
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I actually think Tiystus is town. The way he defended NL was pretty towntelling for me. | ||
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In my opinion, day1 lynch is very difficult to conduct. Without any "hard" evidence (from kills, etc.) and only through talking, any mafia can be just as pro-town as anyone else. | ||
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On March 03 2012 05:51 Maverick32x wrote: @Sufficiency- Good posts!! I'm really glad to hear from you!! That being said, I truly am suspecting the following people as the most likely to be mafia at this point- Sufficiency- Its not so much the things you said, but the reactions that I've been gathering from the bottom two. Obviously I suspected you from the start due to your poor posting. But it seems like a lot of the other people were eager to let you get by as "poor town", and you weren't confronted at all. Then all of a sudden you post that you want to get rid of the lurker, and Dim hopes right on board. You've established zero credability in this thread, if anything you were seen as a non-helpful, yet for some reason you're getting bandwagon support..... Dim- You've spent a lot of time defending Mementoss, and bandwagoned with Sufficiency. I think this is highly suspicous behavior. Both players have bounced off each other and defended each other's actions to establish credability. Mementos: Creating excuses for Sufficiency. I honestly was shocked when I saw Dimm in this list. I looked through his filter and did not see a whole lot of "Meaningful posts".. but I guess the bar was set kind of low for this... I think he kept Sufficiency in the bottom since obviously I have been making a scene about him. You later make a huge post about how scummy Sufficiency is, and how you think he is the worst townie ever, or mafia. Yet you've flipped to Oto, and are actively trying to make me consider Oto, and point to his lack of answering to both myself and Trackd00r- trying to get us to sway our votes. All this being said!!!! I won't vote for mementoss or Dim. They do talk a lot, which would be useful later on if they do end up being Mafia... So I guess that leads me to who I should vote for... I have about 2 hours left!! So I'm going to keep reading through and seeing what people come up with!!! Feel free to respond Sufficiency, Dim and Mementoss- I'd like to hear a counter to what I've posted, since I'm trying to stay open-minded. I am not sure what you are getting at - it almost sounds like you are trying to buddy me. | ||
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On March 03 2012 06:09 Maverick32x wrote: Okay, well clearly you've only read the first sentence -_-.... also make sure you vote in the voting thread... if you haven't already... No I read the whole thing, obviously. I just can't put my finger on what you are trying to get at. | ||
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Can you tell me who you would have voted for if you had the chance to vote? | ||
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My current read is that beorn1/blubdavid is town. I also have a good guess at his role. There were 7 votes on oto yesterday and oto didn't make a move to defend himself much. This seems to me like a vanilla town behaviour. If I were him, and I were almost certain to get lynched, I would claim a PR and fish out the real PR. He didn't do that. To me, this suggests that he is either really a vanilla town or he is a poorly played scum. In case he is scum then I wouldn't be too worried. He is on everyone's radar so if he does something scummy again we will catch him. | ||
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On March 05 2012 05:31 Sufficiency wrote: Now that we are on Day 2 I'll be writing some opinion soon (no, I think Day 1 analysis is utter garbage, which is why I was more willing to lynch beorn1. But it seems that blubdavid is a good player...). My current read is that beorn1/blubdavid is town. I also have a good guess at his role. There were 7 votes on oto yesterday and oto didn't make a move to defend himself much. This seems to me like a vanilla town behaviour. If I were him, and I were almost certain to get lynched, I would claim a PR and fish out the real PR. He didn't do that. To me, this suggests that he is either really a vanilla town or he is a poorly played scum. In case he is scum then I wouldn't be too worried. He is on everyone's radar so if he does something scummy again we will catch him. ^ I meant that If I were him and I was scum, and I were almost certain to get lynched, I would claim a PR and fish out the real PR. dat slip. Hahaha. | ||
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On March 10 2012 04:01 Maverick32x wrote: I just looked through the filters on Dim again.. the only person that he never accused out of the remainders is Sufficiency and I guess me... but I find the sufficiency the weirdest because he was such a lurker and so many people were targetting him... when in fact Dim was defending him!!! I think we got this one :D I am lurking because I find this game way too time-consuming now than what I initially thought it would take -- furthermore I am really busy these days. I tried to ask to have me replaced, but according to the mod there are many people in front of me who wants to be replaced. That's why I stayed... | ||
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Also, it is beyond me as to how blubb pulled it off. Why would a DT claim at night? | ||
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