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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 10:17:10
February 24 2012 09:43 GMT
#19
Would you mind if I join this? Currently in SNMMVII but it's probably ending soon. If you don't mind than /in

Nevermind would rather let newer players join and try mafia out.

/in as replacement

zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 25 2012 03:22 GMT
#59
This filled up pretty quick :O

If any new players wants my slot I wouldnt mind giving it up to let them have a go at mafia

Also when is this starting?
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 25 2012 03:27 GMT
#63
On February 25 2012 12:26 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 12:22 zelblade wrote:
This filled up pretty quick :O

If any new players wants my slot I wouldnt mind giving it up to let them have a go at mafia

Also when is this starting?


You stay right the hell here, where I can see you, no more lurking for you.


I might be a little busy sometimes....
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 25 2012 12:40 GMT
#74
The mafiascum wiki is a decent place to get some basic information.

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Besides if you are unsure of anything you could just ask Im sure that someone would be more than willing to explain it to you.

LYLO refers to a day inwhich the lynch has to hit scum, otherwise town would lose. For example, there are 3 town players and 2 scum players. If town mislynches town will lose, as the ratio of town : scum would become 2:2, causing scum to reach their win condition.

I dont know what CK refers to though.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 25 2012 14:24 GMT
#76
Only mafia are allowed to communicate privately. All communication from town must happen solely in the thread.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 25 2012 17:02 GMT
#83
/out

/in as replacement
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 28 2012 03:50 GMT
#481
Hi guys replacing fourface. Will read thread later when I get home.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 28 2012 08:52 GMT
#489
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2012 01:42 FourFace wrote:
So people don't like lurkers, they don't want fluff, they can't stand statistics, they like to post when they'll be online, they don't like people jumping on bandwagons, they get or don't get oooohh OOOHHh oOOHHH scum vi-bratioooonns, they don't want to prove they are/can be/are eager to be/promise to be useful just for the hell of it or even write about why they said someone is suspicious in the heat of a FOS that should help confirm their suspicion (instead they ask who they WOULD vote for; would is not that important but I hyphened it like a boss) . My oh my this is a tough crowd so i'll just stop clowning at this point even before Day[1] ends .. get it Day bracket 9 bracket i mean 1 bracket? No..? I give up.

From now on I have a real reason for posting every move I make. Feel free to interrogate me about my motives any time but know that scum is listening.

Anyway I've hacked the Scum QT and it says: Mafia won't shoot me, instead they want to wait to see if there is a vigilante who plays by the book and kills liars. They'll force a lynch on me tomorrow and they know they don't even have to roleblock. I guess I was too transparent even with all that bs going on.


They'll force a lynch on me tomorrow and they know they don't even have to roleblock. I guess I was too transparent even with all that bs going on

On February 28 2012 02:22 FourFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 01:42 FourFace wrote: They'll force a lynch on me tomorrow and they know they don't even have to roleblock. I guess I was too transparent even with all that bs going on.
EDIT: What I meant to say was They'll force a lynch on me tomorrow and shoot if it doesn't work out while knowing that they don't even have to releblock. I guess I was too ... etc etc transparent even with all that bs going on. Damnit guys I'm the DOC, now be nice to me .. vote for who I want you to vote and I will most likely save you. Medical care isn't free you know. As for who the DT is I have no idea but he sure is invisible .. or even a dark archon messing with my mind. Is there a pattern here? Do I get exponentially crazier after 2 am KST and get back to making a little sense starting around midnight? Damn I'm attention whoring hard, won't be long until someone lynches me solely for that reason. There's still hope though... Day 2 might be different if I live to see it. I'm getting tired of myself so you guys must be REALLY tired. Remember Doc needs you to be on his side for him to protect you. Aloha



wtf
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 28 2012 10:03 GMT
#491
Alright finally caught up. I find fourface's (who I replaced) play to be pretty ... wacky. Either way, in case any of you thought it was actually real, his "doc" claim is untrue.

I also dont agree with the soft deadline policy you guys put in place. With it, one effectively cuts off a large part of discussion, and having a lynch targert "locked" (look at what good it did for town in SNMMVII day 2) isnt always a good thing. I agree that last minute mass switches are really terrible though, but I dont believe that this is the right solution. Instead, people that last minute vote-switch (on shitty reasons) should be held accountable for their actions.

I dislike the fact that so many decided to switch to igabod and eventually a no-lynch. I agree with sloosh that igabod can be considered the "easy way out", and I find it surprising that you guys actually think that he has a higher chance of flipping scum as opposed to choclate or ghost. He has posted nothing, and I dont see how you guys see that he is auto-scum. It is much more probable that he had some IRL issues or lost interest in the game, which says zlich about his alignment.

Moving on.

I feel that ghost is scummy, but not based on the factors that have already been listed. The cases on him seem to be purely based on his lynching stance. Said stance towards lynching can be easily explained from both a townie and a mafia perspective imo. What I dont like are these.
@Janaan I second what alderan said. Who you voting for?

@Alderan Same goes to you. Who you voting for?

Here he appears to "pressure" Ald and Janaan. Ald ignores him though, and continues flip-flopping around with his vote towards the end of the day. Why did you drop your pressure so easily? This feels like you are calling people out for the sake of it, and you dont really want to follow up on it. Scum attempting to look like hes contributing by "pressuring"?

Chocolates play from NMMIII where he was scum feels totally diffrent. In that game he lurklurklurk his way to the endgame where he got eliminated by process of elimination. This game he is alot more active and based off meta it is likely hes town. His filter though leaves much to be desired.

Im also really tired now (had a pretty tiring day) and I need to take a short break from mafia. I may post more later but I think ill leave it to tomorrow where I can reread this with a clearer mind.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 03:57 GMT
#579
I'm still in school making a short post from my phone.

We dont know why mafia hit jannan, and we will not know till after the game. Looking at who started to push him and deriving who is scum based on that alone is weak and wifom. Perhaps he was on the right track , perhaps they thought he was blue (doubtful), perhaps they decided to hit him to confuse us. There is no point continuing to harp on the night kill and we shouldnt take it as a major factor when pushing someone.

Also I have a few suspicions, will elaborate when I get home and onto a computer.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 04:12 GMT
#580
Btw I got roleblocked
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 04:24 GMT
#584
I'm not claiming blue ffs
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 04:24 GMT
#585
Look @ what test said
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 04:30 GMT
#590
I guess they thought I was medic with ff claim
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 05:46 GMT
#595
Test so good at understanding my posts <3

And yes stop speculating if I am a blue, that information is for me and me alone, and won't help you guys in anyway.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 05:55 GMT
#600
On February 29 2012 14:48 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 14:46 zelblade wrote:
Test so good at understanding my posts <3

And yes stop speculating if I am a blue, that information is for me and me alone, and won't help you guys in anyway.


Fine, are you red then ?


Dont worry I'm not
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 05:56 GMT
#601
@gum can we not delve into a bucket of wifom?
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 06:40 GMT
#606
@Gum

1) Stop basing your agurments on wifom. And just because jannnan happens to be town doesnt implicated Ald in any way. Townies get their reads wrong (esp day 1) all the time, so it could easily be a mistake. If these reads continue to be horrible of course ....

2) If you want to push those people (which I dont think is a good idea), do it yourself. Go through their filters and make a case if you think they are suspisious. Dont get DYH or someone else to do your dirty work for you.

3) Can we stop it with the bluefishing?
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 16:51 GMT
#620
Because if you get roleblocked you claim it. Immdiatedly. Its information mafia already have, and town having more information is always a plus. Lets say you got roleblocked. Would you hide that fact, or let it out into the open?

And no, I am not making a spectacle. The one doing so it you. We need to move on from this crap and start hunting some scum.

Onto the more important stuff.

I believe that a few of you (Sloosh, DYH, Hyde) are perhaps expecting too much from Alderan, and perhaps fear his scum play to an extent. I feel that his actions havent been scummy, and the cases made against him arent really great. What he has been called out for is supposedly dumping suspision on mutiple players. I do think that his thought process which he explained is perfectly valid. His play also happens to be totally diffrent from last game, where he played a safe scum that made the "right reads" and looked blue. His plan for day 1 was simply to tunnel dimmuklok, casting as much doubt without actually lynching him, instead wanting to leave him as a potential easy mislynch further into the game (which did not happen ofc). Furthermore, the activity diffrence is also staggering. I dont believe that he changed his style so much in just one game.

Im suspisious of gumshoe. I dont how much wifom he has been applying to everything, and how he tried to rolefish. I did get the sense that he was improving greatly last game, but this game it seems that he has faded to a point where he isnt doing much. You could see that gum was constantly trying last game, and was being really enthusiastic about the game, constantly attempting to contribute (abliet in pretty bad ways lol), and eventually got better with his reads.

However , look at his filter this game. There is hardly anything of note inside. It is a massive 6 5 pages ( -1 I guess since its pregame talk), but notice how little he says. Most of it is fluff, friendly (or unfriendly) banter, insistence on no no lynch and a bunch of wifom. Note how his only real contributions are him sheeping DYH on fourface, FOSing ghost and backing off using "irony" as an excuse, than saying that ghost is the best lynch about 2 posts after he backs off his pressure, citing "information" on sloosh as a primary reason. He also dumps out a couple of FOS on sloosh and steveling at the same time. I find his actions scummy, and it is alarming that he has managed to post so much yet say so little.

Yes, the gumshoe last game spammed as well. But look at the diffrence. That game his posts, whilst generally making little sense at the start (slowly improving) were filled with content, as opposed to the one-liners that he is spamming here. I suggest you guys to take a look at his filters from both games, and you would easily see the stark diffrence.

Which is also why I feel that gumshoe is our best lynch for today.

##vote: gumshoe
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
February 29 2012 16:55 GMT
#622
Also nttea looks more like newb townie to me. Thats the feel I get from his post, and I highly doubt (abit of wifom here but please bear with me) that he would post like this with scumbuddies to help and coach him. He seems lost atm, and at any rate is a terrible lynch for today - easy to hop on, no information if he flips town.

That said, nttea you need to step up though. If you have trouble understanding what is going on perhaps take a look at one of the excellent guides around here or perhaps ask for help from one of the vets.
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