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On March 05 2012 08:05 DoYouHas wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 03 2012 22:54 zelblade wrote: 1) The definition of a lurker is someone who actually posts, but doesnt post anything worthwhile. Did you really think igabod was more likely scum than town? I dont understand why you would prefer having him dead as opposed to replaced. Chances are the "lurker" is more often town than scum either way, and the fact that he has flipped town further reinforces this fact. 2) So what do you think of Alderan now? 3) Yes. Perhaps the situation played out a little similarly, but no two games are the same. Besides, what makes you believe that scum did the same thing as last game? One of the "expereinced players" could easily be scum for one, or the candidates could be scum. You have zero reason to believe that scum played similarly according to last game. Why dont you see this? 3.1) Scum almost always split their votes day 1, for obvious reasons, unless the lynch is close and one of the two candidates are mafia. There is no reason to believe they did not do so, and having all of them dump their votes on a single person is just dumb. And no, I never said that you and Alderan were acting similary. Instead, what i meant is this: I believe that you didnt vote gumshoe, claiming that you thought he was town, to gain towncred when he flipped. Alderan did something similar to this going against your lynch and voting for someone else instead. Besides, how do you know what you think is an "accurate portyal" of scum's play? You do not know how they are acting. Another thing - what conclusions have you yourself drawn from this activiy? Note how you never actually do so, and never actually use this speculation to drive home a case. Which is why I dont see it as useful. Note that this still doesnt explain why you wanted to venture into this topic. 4) Isnt this a position scum love to be in? 5) You might be right on this point that I am expecting too much of you, honestly because NMMIII gave me quite the impact. However, I still do think that your logic is horrible, and dont believe that you believe in it. 1. If you make it through a day without posting, but are not being removed from the game, that makes you a lurker. 2. I did not like his early play with 1 case and lots of smaller posts. That is why I pushed him some. Also, I don't like that he has not posted in a while. However, (this is mostly from memory because I'm in a bit of hurry) he makes more sense some of you. I lean town for him atm. 3. You don't like my reasoning, so be it. I think that correlating events and situations hint at how the mafia are playing. You don't. I'm not wasting any more time on this. 3.1 bolded What is this? It was extremely clear what you said, you said that I did something similar to Alderan's scum play from SNMM7. As for the "accurate portrayal" talk. My actual words were, "You think that I am scum, that I gave an accurate portrayal of how scum are playing this game, made a point of bringing it back up and getting Alderan to comment on it, and that I wasted everyone's time with speculations that you seem to agree with and even use in your case against me." I never said that I thought that I had presented a completely accurate portrayal of scum play this game. Instead, my point is that you are using some of the same things that I brought up in my speculation to attack me. So you must think that I was at least somewhat accurate with my speculation. Italicized What conclusions did I make? What cases did I push forward with my speculation? This One I used my speculation to create standards which I used to scumhunt. I pushed NightFury with these standards. 4. Yes it is, but it is still the truth of how I felt. 5. I think the logic of your cases against me is equally horrible, so at least it is mutual. Something about zelblade that needs to be said. Many of us (including me) believed he is town because of the ridiculous and crazy response FourFace made to my initial case. However, with nttea flipping medic, we know that FourFace fakeclaimed doctor. I am of the opinion now that FourFace's craziness no longer exonerates zelblade. I am obviously biased against zelblade because I think he is making bad cases against me. All that I am asking of you is to put him back on the table when you are considering who is suspicious. 1) Yes, but in the case of igabod he was going to be either modkilled or replaced, bar him last minute voting. You arent answering my primary point - why didnt you want him replaced? 2) So you are "leaning town" on Alderan, but decided to vote for him? 3) If you say so. 3.1) Yes, I mentioned that you used the gumshoe lynch to gain towncred, something relatively similar to what Alderan did. However, this is a common thing for scum to do, and honestly scum do it often. I think that I misunderstood your first response though, I thought that you believed that I thought that you your play is largerly similar to Ald's, when I was only referencing to one point. The accurate portrayal I misunderstood, my bad. Last I remembered you dropped that case less than a few hours of posting it. I already mentioned that the medic claim was fake, why bring it up again? And if you think that im scum, make a case against me and push it, dont poke others to do it. | ||
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Chocolate seems the worst of them all tbh. The whole "mafia is running the town" seems to be a statement that is pointing fingers at whoever is leading the town, without any actual hard accusations. Anyway, even if you are town, what does it have to do with your reads? Although it does show that you dont have any malicious intentions behind your reads, they still could be wrong. Expecting town to lynch according to your reads if you flip town wont work, unless you have cases which are rock-solid, but you apparently dont. And if you feel none of the primary candidates are scum, why the hell did you vote for Ald? Why dont you push a case on someone else and try to convince townies to follow you? You look terribly scummy right now, and if you are town, are clearly putting in next to no effort into this game. Testsubject still hasnt posted anything of decent substance yet and has sheeped another mislynch. Nightfury's vote on Alderan is also based off completely nothing, and he spends most of a "critical day" posting stuff about how no-lynch sucks, and of course comments on his case on ghost, which I feel that is pretty bad. He states that he goes to read the filters of DYH & Alderan, yet doesnt comment on them at all before proceeding to vote Alderan because "lynch > no-lynch". Come on guys I dont believe that you are all scum... Post more and take a more active role in the thread please, especially if you feel that we are on the wrong track. | ||
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On March 05 2012 21:44 Chocolate wrote: Testsubjects list. Ganging up on me earlier. Being behind all the town lynches. I dont know why he put me as 10% town, and I cant explain his actions, but I certainly didnt "gang up on you". I havent even mentioned you at all (except for a leaning town read when I first replaced in based on meta), and considering that you were also on both the gumshoe and Alderan lynches yourself your last statement is so dammed hyprocritical. Dont give me some bullshit that lynch > no-lynch because it alone is not a valid reason to vote for someone who you dont think is scum. | ||
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On March 05 2012 22:05 phagga wrote: You voted on gumshoe and Alderan too. In fact, there was no need for you to vote either of them, as they would have been lynched with one vote less as well (and you were the last one to vote for Alderan 55 minutes before the deadline with an absolut joke of a reason). But I guess you did not want to risk that a townie would not get lynched, because you are scum Can you stop tunneling chocolate for a moment and answer my question? | ||
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GG gl =/ Dreamflower can I have the obs qt please? Thanks :D | ||
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Sorry for my horrible reads -.- | ||
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I assume you checked Ald, Sloosh and someone else? | ||
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