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Must say that VisceraEyes overreaction and defense feels scummy, kitaman27 hasn't displayed any form of scummyness himself, so accusing him doesn't seem all too wise. The arguments against him has some, if weak, support at least.
##Vote: VisceraEyes
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lets all vote for no good reason!
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On February 07 2012 02:56 layabout wrote:
lets all vote for no good reason!
When we're done with that, maybe we can all contribute without contributing! It'll be great fun!
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Could you do me a favor and edit the deadline of this day-cycle in your day1-post BC?
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On February 06 2012 20:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 20:03 Tunkeg wrote:On February 06 2012 19:50 Tobberoth wrote:On February 06 2012 19:36 Tunkeg wrote:On February 06 2012 19:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 06 2012 19:25 Tunkeg wrote:On February 06 2012 19:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 06 2012 19:04 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On February 06 2012 19:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
This would be a good example of that. Because Batman wins off lynches, it doesn't benefit for him to work actively against us. Point out the guy you think is Hugo, don't hand over the vig to Batman. Trading the Joker for a 100% Joker kill that night/day is a good trade. Why would we out Joker to help a third party that has to help us anyway when we can keep our vig potentially for a couple days at least? That's not a good plan. He doesn't gain powers from killing Joker, it's just part of his win condition. If we don't hand the joker over, Batman has to guess who he is, and has a reason to shoot townies. And why would he not shoot townies looking for Hugo? On "honor"? He can't claim so we can't hold him to it and he doesn't care if we win or not. He's going to either DT or shoot every night based on his preferences regardless of whether or not he hits Joker early or not. It will take him a bit out of the game sooner, but isn't this irrelevant considering no one is supposedly allowed to roleclaim anyway? I disagree. If Batman gets Joker early on he have no reason to just go hit hit hit. Him just hitting blindly after getting one of his target may just whittle down one of the allignement to a point where Batman may risk: A: Getting daylynch (chance increase when number of remaining players decrease) B: One side winning (causing Batman to lose if he have lynched Hugo, but not Joker and town winning, or if he have lynched Joker, but not Hugo and scum winning). So Batmans should hit hit hit until he gets one of the targets (or one side is getting low) and then he MUST DT, that is optimal for Batman IMO. That's why he shouldn't hit hit hit at all but use his DT power and only hit when he has a match. That is the safest way to play the role for the exact reasons you claim. There's no reason to give up the Joker Day 1 when we don't even know what Batmans going to do and I can tell you already if he's a smart player he's going to use the DT I agree Batman should DT mid to late game. But for the first 2-3 nights he should just hit. I belive that trading the Joker for either getting Batman to be on the townside or getting Hugo killed (if that happends very soon after Joker death) is a good deal for town. As I have said before, if Batman gets Joker he can pretty much play a very pro-town standard game, as he then basicly wins with town, and he only loses by scum winning or him getting lynched. He will then push pro-town lynches all the way until he gets Hugo, as he he can't be lynched by night, and playing pro-town (even revealing some of his DT checks as XX is town, or YY is scum basicly softclaiming DT) so he won't get lynched by town during the day. Shouldn't it be the other way around? In the first days, there's little to go on, so all his hits will be blind and he'll just lower the amount of players for nothing since he doesn't know what he will hit. Sounds to me like a better idea to use the safe period of the early game to DT and get a feel for what players he needs to hit/not hit later. If Batman hits players randomly in the first few days, there's a risk he'll kill of scums which is bad for him since it gives the town a much better chance to kill off the scum before Batman gets the joker. Later in the game, discussions have probably led to clues so he can more easily hit townies directly when looking for the joker. Seems to me that by logic, batman should be most dangerous for townies the later we get in the game without joker being killed, while it should be decently safe early on. Well, both your way, Dr H's way and my way might all be viable strategies for Batman, it depends on many things though. My way: Early hits is pretty safe for Batman as both factions are far from elimination. Therefor my logic is that he might as well just hit and try his luck instead of DT the ones he suspects and then later hit them. Dr H's way: DT all the way until he finds his targets. Secure that Batman don't help any faction, and is the safer option as he won't whittle away any of the factions. It might take longer for Batman to secure his objectives compared to my way, but it is definatly safer. Your way: DT early and hit late makes Batmans hit more accurate as he have less people to chose from. But this is the most risky strat of it all for Batman IMO. Cause if Batman misshit lategame he might just end the game. Well, now I have rambled on long enough about the Joker claim thing. I think all of you know where I stand and why. Unless someone want me to clarify more on my stance I will just leave this for now, so other topics may be discussed or others might put in their two cents on the Joker claim thing. If the early DT checks die, it was all for naught. He might as well shoot into the dark.
I've read 3 pages so far, and I'm already annoyed by your spam and nonsensical posting. If anything you should worry about CatWoman and not Batman, if you even spent 15 seconds reading their description there is no point in killing him. Also half your posts are shitty advice posts for the batman, again waste of time.
Why would he shoot into the dark and risk not killing someone?(No Info) That is one night he wastes in not finding his objectives. He should be dting every night, and using that information to fish in this thread to find better choices in DTing to narrow his 2 suspects as soon as possible. Find Catwoman - she dies, find Batman nothing happens. Why are you and others wasting time discussing this? That makes me suspicious already.
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1.Bill Murray - He's back. A lot of posts.
2. Kenpachi - Don't worry if You forget about him playing.
3. Visceraeyes - "Core" of TL mafia
4. Toadesstern - Still quite new
5. Hiro Protagonist - "Core" of TL mafia
6. Jayjay54 - New
7. Layabout - New
8. Cyber_cheese - Still quite new // "core"?
9. Doctor Helvetica - Uh, need advice from someone like Jackal
10. Jackal58 - lurky, aggressive and good.
11. Slardar - new
12. Tobberath - new
13. jaybrundage - new I guess?
14. Wherebugsgo - vocal aggressive and good
15. Tyran - new
16. Tunkeg - new
17. Kurumi - troll/"core" player many posts (myself, ask away)
18. Risk.nuke - Still quite new
19. Opz - ???
20. Kitaman27 - Quite good, been here for a while
21. ico - new
22. Evantrees - new
23. -_-qualis - new
24. forumite - "core"
25. Liquid`sheth - new, but played a lot of rl mafia
26. Radfield - if not dead N1 he's mafia. seriously though, amazing player
27. rgtheschworz - new
28. Palmar - sufferring from something I can't name, or maybe it's boredom because of role received?
29. Chaoser - was baller and not so baller since
30. Katina - new
31. Adam4167 - some say promising newbie
I'd like people to add things to this player list, I'll how do You call it? important people // known // good
should be discussed
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1.Bill Murray - He's back. A lot of posts.
2. Kenpachi - Don't worry if You forget about him playing.
3. Visceraeyes - "Core" of TL mafia
4. Toadesstern - Still quite new
5. Hiro Protagonist - "Core" of TL mafia
6. Jayjay54 - New
7. Layabout - New
8. Cyber_cheese - Still quite new // "core"?
9. Doctor Helvetica - Uh, need advice from someone like Jackal
10. Jackal58 - lurky, aggressive and good.
11. Slardar - new
12. Tobberath - new
13. jaybrundage - new I guess?
14. Wherebugsgo - vocal aggressive and good
15. Tyran - new
16. Tunkeg - new
17. Kurumi - troll/"core" player many posts (myself, ask away)
18. Risk.nuke - Still quite new
19. Opz - ???
20. Kitaman27 - Quite good, been here for a while
21. ico - new
22. Evantrees - new
23. -_-qualis - new
24. forumite - "core"
25. Liquid`sheth - new, but played a lot of rl mafia
26. Radfield - if not dead N1 he's mafia. seriously though, amazing player
27. rgtheschworz - new
28. Palmar - sufferring from something I can't name, or maybe it's boredom because of role received?
29. Chaoser - was baller and not so baller since
30. Katina - new
31. Adam4167 - some say promising newbie
I'd like people to add things to this player list, I'll how do You call it? important people // known // good
should be discussed
Changes after re-reading the thread.
Schworz IS actually doing something. His actions make sense. And please, don't try to sell me that we haven't random voted before or voted on little evidence to get info. The most popular move was to pile a bit of votes on a lurker to get him out of the twilight zone. His actions make sense:
-Suspicion of Kenpachi
-Voting Kenpachi based on his suspicion (though badly called "random")
-Is against plan to "sacrifice" Joker
Like we totally should let Kenpachi go after he's getting some people both attacking and defending him. That's the discussion we want. People taking sides and choosing.
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On February 06 2012 18:41 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 16:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all.
Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton.
For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi.
Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will.
I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions. This post is an atrocity. RANDOM VOTING STAGE? REALLY? fucking dumb. Its detrimental to blow any KP you get for mere information.[Fun Fact: Town loses when i get lynched. (100% of the time) Oh and im not hinting anytihng. i shouldn't give a vibe when i claim townie. Ive claimed townie when i was Mafia, Veteran, Vigilante, Doctor and etc. From my standpoint, i have no opinion on Sheth, however im now deadset on this fool .
Ooh, this is what I was looking for. OMGUS+Saying that he claiming town doesn't mean anything.
Then why do you claim town? To look interesting?
I'm not yet advocating blowing any lynches not KP, cuz KP are scum's property right?Very minor scumslip here.
You get all jittery and angry when I vote you.
FoS : Kenpachi
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##Unvote
Guess it was random after all, contrary to what some believe.
RVS over.
I'll look into ppl's responses to my posts and analyze them.Point was and still is to get ppl off setup talking.
Posting analysis as I go. May double or triple post
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On February 07 2012 04:27 rgTheSchworz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 18:41 Kenpachi wrote:On February 06 2012 16:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all.
Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton.
For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi.
Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will.
I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions. This post is an atrocity. RANDOM VOTING STAGE? REALLY? fucking dumb. Its detrimental to blow any KP you get for mere information.[Fun Fact: Town loses when i get lynched. (100% of the time) Oh and im not hinting anytihng. i shouldn't give a vibe when i claim townie. Ive claimed townie when i was Mafia, Veteran, Vigilante, Doctor and etc. From my standpoint, i have no opinion on Sheth, however im now deadset on this fool . Ooh, this is what I was looking for. OMGUS+Saying that he claiming town doesn't mean anything. Then why do you claim town? To look interesting? I'm not yet advocating blowing any lynches not KP, cuz KP are scum's property right?Very minor scumslip here. You get all jittery and angry when I vote you. FoS : KenpachiAlso ##UnvoteGuess it was random after all, contrary to what some believe. RVS over. I'll look into ppl's responses to my posts and analyze them.Point was and still is to get ppl off setup talking. Posting analysis as I go. May double or triple post
have fun going through all of his posts.
maybe you should read through some of his old games and then come back and apologise for wasting our time.
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On February 07 2012 04:29 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 04:27 rgTheSchworz wrote:On February 06 2012 18:41 Kenpachi wrote:On February 06 2012 16:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all.
Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton.
For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi.
Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will.
I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions. This post is an atrocity. RANDOM VOTING STAGE? REALLY? fucking dumb. Its detrimental to blow any KP you get for mere information.[Fun Fact: Town loses when i get lynched. (100% of the time) Oh and im not hinting anytihng. i shouldn't give a vibe when i claim townie. Ive claimed townie when i was Mafia, Veteran, Vigilante, Doctor and etc. From my standpoint, i have no opinion on Sheth, however im now deadset on this fool . Ooh, this is what I was looking for. OMGUS+Saying that he claiming town doesn't mean anything. Then why do you claim town? To look interesting? I'm not yet advocating blowing any lynches not KP, cuz KP are scum's property right?Very minor scumslip here. You get all jittery and angry when I vote you. FoS : KenpachiAlso ##UnvoteGuess it was random after all, contrary to what some believe. RVS over. I'll look into ppl's responses to my posts and analyze them.Point was and still is to get ppl off setup talking. Posting analysis as I go. May double or triple post have fun going through all of his posts. maybe you should read through some of his old games and then come back and apologise for wasting our time.
So wait, it's a requirement to read up on all previous mafias everyone in the game has participated in? I think not.
Why so aggressive?
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On February 07 2012 04:29 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 04:27 rgTheSchworz wrote:On February 06 2012 18:41 Kenpachi wrote:On February 06 2012 16:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all.
Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton.
For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi.
Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will.
I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions. This post is an atrocity. RANDOM VOTING STAGE? REALLY? fucking dumb. Its detrimental to blow any KP you get for mere information.[Fun Fact: Town loses when i get lynched. (100% of the time) Oh and im not hinting anytihng. i shouldn't give a vibe when i claim townie. Ive claimed townie when i was Mafia, Veteran, Vigilante, Doctor and etc. From my standpoint, i have no opinion on Sheth, however im now deadset on this fool . Ooh, this is what I was looking for. OMGUS+Saying that he claiming town doesn't mean anything. Then why do you claim town? To look interesting? I'm not yet advocating blowing any lynches not KP, cuz KP are scum's property right?Very minor scumslip here. You get all jittery and angry when I vote you. FoS : KenpachiAlso ##UnvoteGuess it was random after all, contrary to what some believe. RVS over. I'll look into ppl's responses to my posts and analyze them.Point was and still is to get ppl off setup talking. Posting analysis as I go. May double or triple post have fun going through all of his posts. maybe you should read through some of his old games and then come back and apologise for wasting our time.
All Your posts are utter garbage.
Do I need to motivate You with a vote to help Town?
Oh wait, maybe You don't want to help us?
Why are You defending Kenpachi?
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On February 07 2012 04:30 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 04:29 layabout wrote:On February 07 2012 04:27 rgTheSchworz wrote:On February 06 2012 18:41 Kenpachi wrote:On February 06 2012 16:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all.
Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton.
For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi.
Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will.
I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions. This post is an atrocity. RANDOM VOTING STAGE? REALLY? fucking dumb. Its detrimental to blow any KP you get for mere information.[Fun Fact: Town loses when i get lynched. (100% of the time) Oh and im not hinting anytihng. i shouldn't give a vibe when i claim townie. Ive claimed townie when i was Mafia, Veteran, Vigilante, Doctor and etc. From my standpoint, i have no opinion on Sheth, however im now deadset on this fool . Ooh, this is what I was looking for. OMGUS+Saying that he claiming town doesn't mean anything. Then why do you claim town? To look interesting? I'm not yet advocating blowing any lynches not KP, cuz KP are scum's property right?Very minor scumslip here. You get all jittery and angry when I vote you. FoS : KenpachiAlso ##UnvoteGuess it was random after all, contrary to what some believe. RVS over. I'll look into ppl's responses to my posts and analyze them.Point was and still is to get ppl off setup talking. Posting analysis as I go. May double or triple post have fun going through all of his posts. maybe you should read through some of his old games and then come back and apologise for wasting our time. So wait, it's a requirement to read up on all previous mafias everyone in the game has participated in? I think not. Why so aggressive?
If you are going to vote for somebody you should at least bother to look at how their play typically looks. This can help prevent you from making bad assumptions about their posting and arriving at weak/flawed conclusions.
A quick look at any of Kenpachi's games would tell you that you should ignore the townie claim and that you should not be making an issue of it.
I was also amused that rgTheSchworz has put his FoS on a player that lurks heavily. Plus the KP/lynches "very minor scumslip" is ridiculous.
I understand that sometimes players like to vote to get reactions and generate discussion, but i think that there have been far more votes than is necessary so far and i do not think townies should be voting early when they have next to no information or putting down place-holder votes at the start of the day.
Who benefits more from being able to vote without a proper reason. Scum or town?
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On February 06 2012 21:45 Adam4167 wrote:
All this setup piffle is useless and counterproductive. Both sides can post filler about the setup. Let power roles make their own judgement calls, let the night actions unfold as they do, and spend your time doing something that will actually lead to scum kills, like prodding people or reading filters. In the spirit of that:
Kurumi, you soft-defend Schworz twice in a single post, also indicate that vigi's should avoid him and the rest of your post is basic setup waffle. I don't remember you being this wishy-washy in TL50 either, with statements like 'I find it funny that...' and 'I just ponder', you sure come off that way now. What are you playing at?
Tobberoth, you say you're considering a vote on Kenpachi, yet you want to wait until 'discussion comes up later in the day'. This comes off as quite passive and almost like you're waiting for a bandwagon to pickup speed before you seal the deal. Why not just vote him now if you find him suspicious, as you claim, then move it later as more information presents itself?
Ico, policy lynches are retarded... just no.
Jaybrundage, I know you haven't even posted yet, but we've never been the same team. Don't see why this game would be any different. Have my vote!
##Vote: jaybrundage
Yay a vote of my very own :D
Alright lets get down to business.
It's Business, It's Business time.
You know when i get down to my socks its Business time.
Thats why there called Busness socks.
First off Kenpachi's claim so to speak is irrelevant and should be ignored.
Batman will be doing DT checks. Getting the Joker to roleclaim is dumb and very anti town.
I find VE's OMGUS really odd. Cracking under pressure maybe?
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On February 07 2012 02:32 layabout wrote:
please be civil children
rofl
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Good job Kurumi.
You've successfully identified two trolls a noob and a cowboy. Now what?
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On February 07 2012 04:56 Jackal58 wrote:
Good job Kurumi.
You've successfully identified two trolls a noob and a cowboy. Now what?
We wait for more people to come in, probably.
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On February 07 2012 04:53 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 21:45 Adam4167 wrote:
All this setup piffle is useless and counterproductive. Both sides can post filler about the setup. Let power roles make their own judgement calls, let the night actions unfold as they do, and spend your time doing something that will actually lead to scum kills, like prodding people or reading filters. In the spirit of that:
Kurumi, you soft-defend Schworz twice in a single post, also indicate that vigi's should avoid him and the rest of your post is basic setup waffle. I don't remember you being this wishy-washy in TL50 either, with statements like 'I find it funny that...' and 'I just ponder', you sure come off that way now. What are you playing at?
Tobberoth, you say you're considering a vote on Kenpachi, yet you want to wait until 'discussion comes up later in the day'. This comes off as quite passive and almost like you're waiting for a bandwagon to pickup speed before you seal the deal. Why not just vote him now if you find him suspicious, as you claim, then move it later as more information presents itself?
Ico, policy lynches are retarded... just no.
Jaybrundage, I know you haven't even posted yet, but we've never been the same team. Don't see why this game would be any different. Have my vote!
##Vote: jaybrundage Yay a vote of my very own :D Alright lets get down to business. It's Business, It's Business time.
You know when i get down to my socks its Business time.
Thats why there called Busness socks.First off Kenpachi's claim so to speak is irrelevant and should be ignored. Batman will be doing DT checks. Getting the Joker to roleclaim is dumb and very anti town. I find VE's OMGUS really odd. Cracking under pressure maybe?
Why should we leave Kenpachi's claim if it started the discussion?
You're trying to stop the discussion. This is not a pro-town move.
Maybe I could leave this, but You give no reasons and no alternative whatsoever besides pointing out a vote.
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Before proceeding, I have encountered Kenpachi in Mafia L. He did not claim townie at the start.
On February 06 2012 22:51 -_-Quails wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 22:35 Forumite wrote:Stealthvote detected! On February 06 2012 22:21 -_-Quails wrote:
##vote rgTheSchworz Qualis, please explain your reasoning for voting for Schworz without mentioning it in here, especially since the only FoS I´ve seen from you is on Sheth. Did you read the rest of that post? For your benefit: Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 22:10 -_-Quails wrote: rg's posts were far scummier though. He attacked using reasoning provided by someone else plus weirdness about RVS and this quote: On February 06 2012 17:18 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I personally doubt that he's a blue trying to hide by claiming green, so scum know his role already. Explicit reasons: Objective: rgTheSchworz recycled an argument in order to attack KenPatchi. This is not a pro-town thing to do. Subjective: rgTheSchworz reacted to the vanilla claim in a way that raised my hackles, as did Sheth but Sheth used his own reasoning rather than recycling and so is less suspicious. Objective: That quote. player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia
Please explain what you're meaning about quote. player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia.
I did not recycle any Sheth opinions, except from the fact that I think that VT claiming is bad.
I provided my own arguments in that as blue it would make no sense, he sticks out and if he's scum he has a high chance of being the GF, thus the utility of the claim. Plus, he knows his own meta well, so why not do this?. He'll be overlooked, then DT's will perhaps check him if they read the thread closely.
Now, you Mr, you first stealthvote, to bolster a wagon. Definitively not random, and not on a lurker.
That smells red.
Then you basically sheep after CC, who said what you state ages before you. You give Objective/Subjective sides, yet they differ in 1, 1 single statement: Schworz reacted in a way that raised my hackles. USELESS
You are trying to hide, you are trying to look like you contribute without doing so.
You, sir are Scum
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And me be damned if this is not a pressurevote or a normal vote in any way: ##Vote: -_-Quails
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We are halfway through Day 1, we do not have a lynch target, except for the few that quickwagoned me at the start. Time to give some purpose to this game.
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