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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
February 06 2012 15:45 GMT
#301
I'm more worried about Catwoman, it seems viable for her to just kill the most pro-town people daily for scum, and then win with scum.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
February 06 2012 16:19 GMT
#302
/confirm
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 06 2012 16:28 GMT
#303
Palmars filter is linked to Chaosers name in the player list.
Life can only kill you once.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 06 2012 16:31 GMT
#304
LOL
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 06 2012 16:31 GMT
#305
Scum would love it if we outed the Joker. That means batman would be blue shooting instead of scum shooting night one. Toad said it best. Batman should be shooting scum suspects to find Hugo. It is much more likely the scum team to take care of the joker with a night hit than it is for Hugo to die from a vig hit. In addition, if Batman is cornered into a lynch and is forced to claim his hits, the town is much more likely to spare him if he has a scum shot on his resume, than if he has a list of blues that he has hit. Just look at LoTR mafia with how willing the town was to work with chaoser after he shot radfield. Catwoman should also consider shooting into scum early to ensure she will survive late game.

The only setup speculation worth talking about seems to be the choices certain blue players have. Assuming they are standard roles, I'd prioritize dt over vig obviously. I'd probably select medic over vig as well, but with two scum players holding a kp, vig could be more valuable to normal.

##Vote Visceraeyes
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 06 2012 16:45 GMT
#306
Kita, how can batman claim his hits without claiming and being modkilled?

+ there has been a lot of discussion about very little, please cut it out.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 06 2012 16:54 GMT
#307
On February 07 2012 01:45 layabout wrote:
Kita, how can batman claim his hits without claiming and being modkilled?

+ there has been a lot of discussion about very little, please cut it out.


Batman can simply claim one of his hits, preferable one that ended up being a mafia and say he's a normal vig. There's not going to be someone who can counterclaim unless he claims a name as well but who'd be stupid enough to yell "hey you can't be X, I am X" while X is a specific name and not a role. That would out a blue without helping town and gets the counterclaimer killed.
A vig claim gets shot by batman. If it's a DT (which makes sense for a Batman claim as well, probably even more given what Palmar said) is going to be shot by mafia, same with medics but Batman is probably not going to claim medic :p
He could even claim VET that got shot night X because he's immortal.

I really don't think batman or catwoman will have problems claiming something that is not batman :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 06 2012 17:03 GMT
#308
I see that Kitaman might be scum! I've made one action this game, and it was an attempt to get clarity from the mod. Somehow this makes me scum?

The reason I asked was this:

He infiltrates Arkham City in order to target certain people. Hugo Strange tells him who to shoot each night and thus deadshot will carry out the contract and kill that person. If Hugo Strange is killed, deadshot will no longer be able to carry out his attacks.


It's a little ambiguous as to how the deadshot KP works and I wanted mod confirmation that it wasn't what I read it as...which is that Strange gives him a character name and Deadshot kills that guy if he's in the game. The reason I thought it worked this way is because of the fact that not all the names mentioned are guaranteed to be in the game, so it would be a decent way to force scum to think about how they use that KP, because it could be ineffective.

Anyway, the fact that anyone is voting for me for this is a little disturbing considering there's already like 3 pages of setup speculation and a mass-claim has been proposed. Kitaman, care to explain your vote in a little detail? Or are you scum just hoping to start a bandwagon?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 06 2012 17:05 GMT
#309
Alright town, fear not, Jayjay is in here. Let’s find guards and kick some tail! For town!

Reading through the pages and typing my thoughts in the process. If you have additional questions, feel free to ask, I will be online for the next for hours. Also, up for chat and kittens.

Kenpachi’s claim: Really neutral to me. As if it never happened. Makes some sense as both scum and town as long as nobody follows (which would be stupid). It’s more like making a zealot and keeping it in base. No tells IMO.

BM: Massclaim: Really? I hear you’re a madman, so I don’t book it under scummy yet, but it’s really a strange suggestion. How the fuck is that helping town?

CC: Joker claiming. HOLY MECHANICS DISCUSSION, BATMAN. Get it together town. We should stop that immediately.I have an opinion, but we don’t need to discuss it, I’ll spoiler it, you can read it, but please do something else than asking, elaborating or whatever on that topic. PLEASE.
+ Show Spoiler +
Hmm. Tough one. The question here is, if batman would not push scum during day and appear pro town anyways. I mean, he can DT check town at night and be pro town all game long. So let’s keep out vig.


However, this discussion reminds me of the one sandro and BC initiated in L. It was definitely scum driven. CC should turn this down or I’ll be on his ass.

rgTheSchworz: His vote and posts seem a little odd, but the behavior regarding joker is generally understandable. He posted a confusing in L as well and was scum. Hmm. Will have a closer look here.

Toad: Happy korean birthday man. Here’s a sad smiley exclusively for you

All in all Adam’s vote explanation is by far the most reasonable, yet. ##vote jaybrundage

So long guys. We can do this!

PS: There’s another Jay in this game, I’d suggest you guys call me JJ for clarity. Thank god JayJay_90 is not in here…
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 06 2012 17:11 GMT
#310
On February 07 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
I see that Kitaman might be scum! I've made one action this game, and it was an attempt to get clarity from the mod. Somehow this makes me scum?

The reason I asked was this:

Show nested quote +
He infiltrates Arkham City in order to target certain people. Hugo Strange tells him who to shoot each night and thus deadshot will carry out the contract and kill that person. If Hugo Strange is killed, deadshot will no longer be able to carry out his attacks.


It's a little ambiguous as to how the deadshot KP works and I wanted mod confirmation that it wasn't what I read it as...which is that Strange gives him a character name and Deadshot kills that guy if he's in the game. The reason I thought it worked this way is because of the fact that not all the names mentioned are guaranteed to be in the game, so it would be a decent way to force scum to think about how they use that KP, because it could be ineffective.

Anyway, the fact that anyone is voting for me for this is a little disturbing considering there's already like 3 pages of setup speculation and a mass-claim has been proposed. Kitaman, care to explain your vote in a little detail? Or are you scum just hoping to start a bandwagon?

Showed up real real quick to defend yourself, just like you showed up quick to defend Liquid'Sheth, changing my vote for sure
RIP Aaliyah
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 06 2012 17:17 GMT
#311
Just woke up, but you know...whatever. And you're surprised I "showed up quick" at the very start of the game? And what I was doing was NOT defending Sheth...I was pointing out Katina's hypocrisy for saying Sheth isn't saying anything. Get real Doc. If you move your vote, I suggest you move it to Kitaman.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#312
Kitaman says I am smart with what I said about Batman. I like Kitaman for thinking I'm smart :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#313
On February 07 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Just woke up, but you know...whatever. And you're surprised I "showed up quick" at the very start of the game? And what I was doing was NOT defending Sheth...I was pointing out Katina's hypocrisy for saying Sheth isn't saying anything. Get real Doc. If you move your vote, I suggest you move it to Kitaman.



Yay! The OMGUS-Chameleon is back!

VE, you need to stop to vote for everyone who calls you scum. The only reason you don't vote for the doc too is that you only have one vote.

Chill, the FUCK, out.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 06 2012 17:26 GMT
#314
Hey JayJay! I haven't voted for anyone yet! How about you chill the fuck out?!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 06 2012 17:32 GMT
#315
please be civil children
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
February 06 2012 17:33 GMT
#316
On February 06 2012 19:08 Bill Murray wrote:
So, Kenpachi is retracting his townie claim? Great!

1) kenpachi is lying - not protown
2) kenpachi isn't lying and is expendable (he's just a townie) - not protown to out d1, better than lynching a detective
3) kenpachi is mafia - not protown

I'm leaning towards 3 due to his paper-thin counter vote on rgtheschworz with 0 reasoning other than LOL I CAUGHT U IT WAS A TARP!!!!!!!!1!. I was leaning town on him until that action. There isn't a whole lot to go on, so far, so this is still definitely only semi-serious...

Another reason for this vote is so that we don't out a blue role. Let's go ahead and chalk up some hypocrisy, wifom, and omgus in his play as well...

holy non-rvs vote, batman
##vote: kenpachi

....arghhh NOT SMART

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*radio* So?
We can't get back.
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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 06 2012 17:34 GMT
#317
On February 07 2012 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hey JayJay! I haven't voted for anyone yet! How about you chill the fuck out?!


yea, but you call kita scum for the very single reason that he called you scum.

whatever dude, us tunneling didn't help in L, it won't here...so, I'll chill.

but your kita call is still weak. so I'd kind of understand docs vote here, it I haven't seen you play in L.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 06 2012 17:35 GMT
#318
hey wbg where are you? I want you to give me a real reason to vote for you instead of just voting you because I said so. Especially with what I said pregame noone will care about me voting you unless you give me a real reason.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 06 2012 17:39 GMT
#319
Happy Birthday Toad!

In regards to my previous post, I just realized scum have a medic, so I would definitely prioritize a medic over vig for anyone who has a choice.

On February 07 2012 01:45 layabout wrote:
Kita, how can batman claim his hits without claiming and being modkilled?

+ there has been a lot of discussion about very little, please cut it out.


He is allowed to claim his hits.

Funny how you step in to shoot down the setup discussion, yet don't bring up a topic yourself. I've got a bad scum habit of criticizing bad town discussion without contributing myself

On February 07 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyway, the fact that anyone is voting for me for this is a little disturbing considering there's already like 3 pages of setup speculation and a mass-claim has been proposed. Kitaman, care to explain your vote in a little detail? Or are you scum just hoping to start a bandwagon?


I didn't like this post, but mostly I'm looking for reactions. Yours is quite disappointing.

On February 06 2012 15:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not much going on so far, scummiest thing in the thread is Kenpachi's claim


On February 07 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you move your vote, I suggest you move it to Kitaman.


Cute. I'm suddenly your lead scum suspect because I voted for you?

BM you weren't serious about the mass claim were you? I hope you're not trying to play the same character as L. Palmar, you're sounding a lot like L as well. I don't think that turned out very well.

Waiting for Radfield's wall of text.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#320
*grumblegrumble*

ANYWAY, I guess since trying to understand the setup is scummy, I'll just embrace my ignorance and live up to expectations.

##Vote: kitaman27
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My vote is about his lack of reasoning for voting for me, and attempt to start a bandwagon (Forumite also appears to be suspicious of me, so I'm taking kita's vote of me as a direct appeal to him...your mileage may vary.)


Clearly all I ever do is OMGUS, so I've spoilered out my actual reasoning since it's imaginary anyway.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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