First off thanks to Palmar. He answered my questions with simple clear answers. Timezone was difficult but I got what I asked for.

Secondly, FUCK YOU CEPHIRO

I've said it before, if you were scum you deserved the win. I really feel town was screwed by having a scum team that just vastly outplayed the majority of the town. Tunk and Jitsu (especially) played really well but as always the good die young. If you look at the rest of the days there was me against Gonzaw and Cephiro. Cats played really well in the end, but had no credit. Blurry lurked and then WTF claimed, the rest of town provided almost nothing.

Knowing that Cephiro was scum makes me feel good about my reads. If Ceph wasn't scum then my first day reads were all wrong! My DT checks were pretty spot on though, Sheth and Gonzaw were red so I am happy with that. But by far my best play I feel was changing my read on Cats. It is really hard to go back and change something that you are sure of but in this case it was the right thing to do.

As for scum you played very well, it is kind of ironic that the only reason I looked at Sheth night one was cause of Ceph but it bought him town cred with me. His noticing of Blurry's breadcrumbs was also brilliant play. Gonz, you played well but your over aggressive responses made it very clear to me you were scum. Of course it didn't matter because I died but if they others had read over my case it would have been clear.

So awards
MVP - Town goes to Jitsu, scum goes to Ceph for his response to my case day 1.
Most improved - Cats, no question there.
WTF? Blurry and his fail claim

Thanks Grey I really enjoyed the game. I think the lesson for town in this game is that everyone needs to participate and evaluate on their own. There were times where the only people questioning my read were scum

Probulous

Australia3894 Posts

January 15 2012 03:17 GMT

#1039

On January 15 2012 12:02 gonzaw wrote:

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I'd like to point something out about it.

First, yes, it was a bad claim.
However, Blurry was very unlucky.

First, there was a RBer, which means the RBer (yours truly

) could RB him, and basicly make him lynched the next day (had Blurry survived the lynch).

Second, if Prob had thought there was a RBer, then he wouldn't have pushed for Blurry's lynch, and may even have believed him (when Blurry was eventually RBed).
This was less bad play from Prob and Blurry, and I think better play from scum that decided not to RB both nights.

EDIT:

Also, if Blurry wasn't lynched (and there was a NL), I don't know if Prob would have suspected I was scum at that point. I think he would have checked Paper or Blurry perhaps (so he would really know if there is a RBer or not).

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You don't?

>_>

<_<

Yeah, prior to the Blurry claim I was tossing up between Paper and Cephiro. There were some things he said that didn't sound right and I knew if he was scum we were fucked. Plus if he was town I could add him to Bk and then by process of elimination lynch you. Of course, Blurry claimed and my mind went into WTF mode.

What do people think of my reasoning for going after Blurry. I was fairly certain there were no rolebockers and even if there were, if we let Blurry live, scum could roleblock him and shoot me. That would almost certainly lead to a Blurry miss-lynch and a win for scum. Plus nobody was 100% on the lynch target besides Blurry. So in essence if we let Blurry live and miss-lynched that night, scum would win anyway. My hope was to appear so scummy and be a target that I might survive.

Probulous

Australia3894 Posts

January 15 2012 03:39 GMT

#1041

I got suspicious when you refused to actually answer anything. You just started swearing and calling stuff WIFOM. It may have been WIFOM but it was hardly a defence. I was sure but I was dead, so it didn't matter

I am not the best at persuading others. Look at my case against Sheth, it makes no sense. I ended up pleading with people. The fact that all three scum voted for him to be killed just shows how bad the lurkers fucked us over.

Anyway, well played. I put a lot of effort into this game and would have liked a win, but I can say that town as a whole was outplayed.

Probulous

Australia3894 Posts

January 16 2012 01:28 GMT

#1048

On January 15 2012 14:27 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Well that was interesting, I felt a lot flakier than I should have been, I kinda wish I had been around more for those guys.
They were really active and put A LOT of effort in when they needed to, I really didn't see town winning even at the end of night 1.
//scum coach
other coaches can suck it because my coachings better

You had it easy mate!

Coaching a team that is motivated, participating and can ask you any questions they want is much easier than providing general advice.

@Palmar, what are your thoughts on the overall game. Were there any other coaches?

Finally, I don't think I will be playing much more. This takes a huge amount of time and effort which I am may not have in the near future. Maybe a mini game.