EPTPerhaps I'm the wrong person to say this, but if you have too much noise you cloud out the signal, you see?
I'd condense your post to your chief suspect and the other scum people you think are scum.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Perhaps I'm the wrong person to say this, but if you have too much noise you cloud out the signal, you see? I'd condense your post to your chief suspect and the other scum people you think are scum. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
Spaackle: Hmm, in this post I only think he's scum because risk flipped town. Though, If I could ask him anything it would be anything else beside these three points Again, but this time is because Palmar flipped scum "People wanna lynch him, hmm i'll join in too!" so basically sheeping Hmm, this seem's townish to me but what happen's next make's me suspicious. He keeps on repeating the reason why he voted/unvoted RoL. + Show Spoiler + On January 12 2012 02:55 Spaackle wrote: @Zeph I unvoted RoL because I thought there might be a better lynch than him. I posted my reads on Tyrran last night, and was going to do the same for risk today, but you guys hammered the lunch during my morning classes. I Would have voted risk, but I wanted to do a thorough analysis of his posts before I put the last nail in his coffin. You guys beat me to the punch. The fact that risk flipped town is problematic. It brings us no closer to finding the rest of the scum. However, risk is still the best option for yesterday, IMO. Tonight, DH should hit either Tyrran or RoL. On January 13 2012 08:50 Spaackle wrote: When I moved off of RoL, it was because the argument between you and him had gotten kind of silly and was filling up the thread. I looked at both risk and RoL, and risk looked like thebetter lynch. I would have voted him, but he was hammered before I could. On January 13 2012 09:01 Spaackle wrote: @BH I partially used my RoL vote to get him to come out in the open. I think he is a good lynch, and I did when I voted him, but risk was still better to me. With risk's lynch, why is he more happy with lynching risk? Lastly, please take a look that happily sheeped their way in to voting risk( without giving a reason) Anyway, this sum's my thought's right now. He also has been lurking hardcore Other Possible Scum: Dirkzor: I'm suspicious particularly in this post On January 15 2012 02:07 Dirkzor wrote: Okay... I'm severely hung over and that limits my ability to think right now... And read... And comprehend... And even sitting up is hard... The way I see it is that HoD and RoL is both a lynch i can support. RoL for his passive play and his really long post on BH which actually didn't say much. And why does he keep the argument with BH instead of just posting more analysis? He complaints about BH taking all his time, well then don't answer him - or answer in a way that ends the discussion - and post analysis instead. I don't consider his plan-suggesting as scummy as others but i think i made that clear earlier. HoD for his implication during the nightactions. Is he the AoD? Maybe. The post that Wiggles made that syllo quoted is a really good catch by syllo. Wiggles basicly says in a round about way that there is no way that RoL is demon. The way it was written implied that he knew something others did not. Comebine this with this from day 1 from Wiggles: So if Wiggles was Sage it would have made sense for him to target RoL. This means that his claim looks worse. So why wait with lynching HoD? We can send him to purgatory and if we get no ??? kill we got our AoD. That is a plan that CAN NOT fail since banish it done before slay, so even if the acolyte hits our channeler the plan worked. What do we end up doing if HoD is not the AoD? Lynch him anyway? If that is the plan we might aswell lynch him now. Or do we look at it when that time comes? My vote is saved for RoL, but I'll do it later as to not open up for hammer possibilities. Why does he want to lynch HoD so much (at the time)? {HoD claimed Sage} | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
I'd like to hear an explanation for your bullshit score. Have you ever tested the results of something similar in any other game? If so, did it work well for finding scum? Do you have any reason to believe it will accomplish anything? How did you come up with the point values? Why do you think calculating these scores is in any way a good use of your time? It seems to me to only serve as a way to scum-hunt without actually doing so. Hell, a decent number of things in it are also subjective, letting you twist scores as you please. On January 14 2012 22:52 layabout wrote: ...?I will vote just before 8:00 KST. You will know why. On January 15 2012 06:47 syllogism wrote: Lol, you told me to vote RoL or I was getting lynched, what did you want me to do before the lynch? Build a case on someone that if I voted for you'd lynch me?He said he won't post until tomorrow, so basically HoD and RoL both gave excuses for not doing anything before the lynch. Likely because they feel it's wasted effort as they don't have towns interest in mind. 3.Grack (Leaning Town) He is not a demon. I am the sage, not seer. What is with people calling me the seer?HoD said that grack was not angel, but what if he is a demon?. He has been sheeping but, how he post's make me lean town. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12135649 | ||
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Refallen
452 Posts
On January 15 2012 19:38 syllogism wrote: HoD: I don't know why you bother arguing about your role as if you aren't the AoD, you will be cleared by the day post. You keep making excuses for your activity and still find yourself unable to call anyone scum. Are you going to be busy tonight? Can we expect you to make some real cases in which you actually reach a conclusion? You know something like this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12135649 Syllo do you agree that even if AoD kills tonight, HoD is still suspicious as hell? Though I might want to lynch Tyrran/Spaackle tomorrow instead. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On January 15 2012 10:17 Refallen wrote: layabout can you explain why you could only vote in the hour? I am not quite sure what you mean... I said i would vote at that time I did not wish to vote earlier because the last early lynch ruined the atmosphere and killed activity. It also meant that by 8:00KST the lynch would almost certainly happen, which would give RoL plenty of time to help us if he wanted to. He didn't. Also why is HoD trying calling me scummy for using my 250th post to articulate a bullshit law? It's literally called "Laybout's Bullshit law". It is based entirely on Bullshit. I haven't used it to scumhunt whatsoever. But doing it lightens up the reading though filters process and allows me to highlight things i think players have done/said that are misleading bad or wrong etc... | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
8hrs until night ends; Anything to discuss, or is everyone watching Thorzain getting crushed by Ret? HoD is hopefully getting banished tonight, right? What happens in the event that there was no banishment? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
If we get a banish, we know RoL lied and can with almost certainty say that RoL was scum. Then if HoD gets banished and we get no ??? Kill we kill HoD. If we don't get any banish we can still lynch HoD, but that might not be the best way depending on what else happens... | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On January 15 2012 19:38 syllogism wrote: Oh gosh, I'm not playing like I did in my first game ever where I led town to a loss? I wonder why? I already mentioned my first game is a shitty place to get meta on me. You're doing the same thing you did to risk to me right now, you have the conclusion already in your mind and are twisting everything I do to match it. Try rereading my filter with the perspective of "is busier than normal and is the sage", and see if my posts make more sense from that perspective or the "is the angel of death" perspective.HoD: I don't know why you bother arguing about your role as if you aren't the AoD, you will be cleared by the day post. You keep making excuses for your activity and still find yourself unable to call anyone scum. Are you going to be busy tonight? Can we expect you to make some real cases in which you actually reach a conclusion? You know something like this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12135649 I am the sage. I am no other role. I argue it because it is true. Now if you'll excuse me I have to read some filters to try to gauge who is most likely to be a demon and yet will not be stabbed in the face by the demon hunter, just in case RoL was telling the truth and I am not getting banished tonight. | ||
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Spaackle
United States153 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:05 Bluelightz wrote: I'm gonna sleep now! see you guys when I get back from school! You know, by now, we should all be able to know exactly what BL's sleep cycle is. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
His passivity and seeming lack of confidence in his reads and overall disinterest in the lynches just seems unlike most townies Even when you were in danger of being lynched you didn't particularly care | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On January 15 2012 21:43 layabout wrote: I am not quite sure what you mean... I said i would vote at that time I did not wish to vote earlier because the last early lynch ruined the atmosphere and killed activity. It also meant that by 8:00KST the lynch would almost certainly happen, which would give RoL plenty of time to help us if he wanted to. He didn't. Also why is HoD trying calling me scummy for using my 250th post to articulate a bullshit law? It's literally called "Laybout's Bullshit law". It is based entirely on Bullshit. I haven't used it to scumhunt whatsoever. But doing it lightens up the reading though filters process and allows me to highlight things i think players have done/said that are misleading bad or wrong etc... So you haven't used it to scumhunt at all, but you use it to help you find things you think are scummy that people have done while reading through their filters? Isn't that often called scumhunting? I'm a little confused by your statement here. Do you mean you haven't used the actual bullshit score at all, but you have used the process of looking for all the various points you outlined in it? Or I am misreading what you're saying here? I was also not aware that was your 250th post use, and you have mentioned it at least half a dozen times since first writing it, so I kinda figured you're doing something with it rather than just filling the thread with useless spam about it. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On January 16 2012 04:29 syllogism wrote: That's not a meta argument at all; you can pretend the link isn't there and it is just as valid reason to believe your play isn't consistent with that of a townie. What you wrote about Tyrran applies quite well to you as well Even when you were in danger of being lynched you didn't particularly care Just like Risk didn't care, amiright? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On January 16 2012 04:43 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Just like Risk didn't care, amiright? Yes, you realize these are heuristics and can not conclusively determine alignment. Anyway, the hostility seems unnecessary considering it's your own lack of commitment to the game that has lead you to this point if you are town. Whether you have been busy is irrelevant and I strongly dislike people who keep making excuses for their activity day after day. You chose to join this game. Moreover, day post should clear some suspicion of you if you are town, so again you should concentrate on what matters rather than attacking someone who is clearly town. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On January 16 2012 04:49 syllogism wrote: Yes, you realize these are heuristics and can not conclusively determine alignment. Anyway, the hostility seems unnecessary considering it's your own lack of commitment to the game that has lead you to this point if you are town. Whether you have been busy is irrelevant and I strongly dislike people who keep making excuses for their activity day after day. You chose to join this game. Moreover, day post should clear some suspicion of you if you are town, so again you should concentrate on what matters rather than attacking someone who is clearly town. No, it is the no AoD kill night 1 + me in purgatory combined with me not in purgatory night 2 + AoD kill that got me here. And that is why this is fucking annoying, because I had no control over that. You at one point even explicitly stated you had no problem with my posting so far, unless that was a lie. And I'm pretty sure I've been more active than refallen, dirkzor, jackal, bluelightz, tyrran, grackaroni, zephirrd, and spaackle. Less active than I usually am? Yes. Missed being around at some key times? Yes. But I have still been pretty damn active. And what matters to me is convincing the single most influential person in this town, whom I also believe to be town, that he is mistaken on trying to lynch me. If you lynch me, you lynch the sage, I think that's pretty damn important to avoid and matters quite a bit. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
You don't have to convince me of anything during the night and what you are saying isn't particularly relevant anyway. | ||
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