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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:49 supersoft wrote: i agree on that. curu is not less active as scum. however i am not 100% sure about zentor yet but i could imagine that he flips red... sorry, iphone etc. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On December 13 2011 17:12 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: Having only two real candidates for mayor/pardoner makes me uneasy, but I even more dislike the half-assed mayoral campaign that promises activity and follows it up by being inactive. Can any player who has played with them (Curu/Erandorr) before give some insight as to how active they generally are as town versus scum? And to Curu/Erandorr, any particular reason for the lack of activity? And why did you run for mayor and then put no effort into it? Radfield / Arc get the benefit of the doubt for now..unfortunately thats how it works in TL Mafia Erandorr was scum last game he laid low and posted fluff basically - nothing of substance...just along for the ride. Not sure how he plays as town Last game there were actually plenty of scum who ran for mayor early and half-assed it namely GreyMist, prplhz, and redFF Nothing against them this game but just saying thats what happened last game and it happens in many games so its not totally farfetched for you to find half-assed mayoral campaigns fishy | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:05 zeks wrote: Radfield / Arc get the benefit of the doubt for now..unfortunately thats how it works in TL Mafia I miss how that is unfortunate? That they are running for mayor or that they get the benefit of the doubt because they have more fluff then the other candidates and what is bad about that? | ||
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DropBear
Australia4432 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:54 risk.nuke wrote: About having only two candidates, quick glance it doesn't really mean much. If two good towncandidates gets selected fast enough it can be risky for mafia to push a third candidate without putting alot of mafia eggs in the basket. Altough honestly this time I feel it speaks in the favor of one of the candidates beeing mafia. Because if I were mafia and they were both town and someone else of the by radfield nominated veterans were mafia I would try to get that mafia veteran elected. While leaving other mafia out of it I would see if I can get townies to support it. Nothing to lose, everything to win. However nothing of that sort happend. There is also the possibilty that none of the listed veterans are mafia in which case the election would look pretty much like this but I deem that less likely. I think Arctocod is likely mafia but I'm not going to do anything about that now. He will have to play pro-town because I will watch him like a hawk. Todays lynches I would like one of these two. Graymist and GiygaS. Though there is a dilemma. I am more sure on Graymist then on Giygas and we'll learn more from Graymists flip then Giygas. Against Graymist probably beeing a more valuable townie then Giygas. What makes you say Greymist? How would a greymist flip give us extra information over GiygaS? | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:20 Cwave wrote: I miss how that is unfortunate? That they are running for mayor or that they get the benefit of the doubt because they have more fluff then the other candidates and what is bad about that? I find it unfortunate that our identities are carried on from previous games because of our userID and that will never leave us until we have a new ID which is why we see certain vets smurf from time to time Having said that I never meant to imply Rad/Arc being front runners right now isn't deserving if thats what you mean | ||
Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:45 DropBear wrote: - I want to hear more from xsksc. He was extremely active in Steamship and Newbie Mafia, he has all of three posts here. - I want to hear less from Sheth. You are spamming like crazy dude and none of it is helpful. It's nice that you're excited about your first game but calm down. @OT So, hey again today guys. Yesterday I was just extremely frustrated as my computer keeps bluescreening. I'm typing this in safe mode w/ networking. I'm taking my computer in to try and get it repaired today. I might actually even buy a new computer right away, as my job depends on having a computer. This weekend + today has been extremely frustrating dealing with these computer issues. So if I dont post too much today, its because I'm trying to get my computer fixed with 100% of my abilities. Also my phone sucks for typing online, but I'll try and post with it. Ok, on topic. I find it weird you chose to call me out after I hadn't spammed or even posted in something like 5-6 pages. I may have spammed earlier, but its how I play this game. I want to go after people and see reactions and what not, and in order for me to do that I had to get out there and post. I want to hear more from xsksc as well. If a lot of you have reads that hes playing differently then last game, the best thing we can have you do is talk more. Who do you want us to lynch? And why do you think anyone wants to lynch GreyMist? On my vote for lynching I'm still waiting around to see whats up. ProfBA needs to post, but even if he does, hes just a lurker like a few others, and I say mod will get rid of him if he keeps up inactive Right? I'm actually still thinking prplhz has some weak posts and I felt like zentor just doesn't like to post, and realized oh snap I geuss I need to post. I don't think that nessecarily makes him mafia, just really lurky town. But all these acusations against him have got him to talk a bit more and I still get a town vibe. I'm still not really sure on who to kill at this point. Will re-read some posts from the last few pages again now before I take my computer away. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Can you elaborate on that "I think Arctocod is likely mafia"? I don't follow you, you speculate that it's unlikely that they're both town and then you pretty much conclude that Arctocod is likely the one who is mafia? This seems like slander to me. GiygaS actually posted his weird mayor/pardoner list at a time when there was some confusion about the roles from a lot of people. I think he's shown that he's absolutely willing to play this game and I don't think he's done anything overly scummy, posting lists is a scumtell only when it's instead of some actual content which he has also provided. The guy is active and transparent and the case against him is bad, I don't think there's any reason to lynch him today. I don't know about GreYMisT. On December 13 2011 15:59 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: no. thats not what he intended to say. he said: lynching lurkers keeps everyone active but doesnt kill scum, therefor no. What do you mean "thats not what he intended to say", how do you know what he intended to say? Why aren't you looking at what he's saying and then asking him questions so he can tell us what he intended to say, instead of just telling everybody what he intended to say when you do not know this? The guy literally said "We should lynch some lurkers [...] but I don't think that will get us any mafia." You are usually all over little things like this, using them to exert pressure but right now you're using your psychic abilities to exonerate him instead. | ||
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Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
Election : Radfield - Its pretty much decided that radfield + arcto will be the ones who get it. We've discussed it enough. And I like Radfields vibe the most. Arcto I'm still unsure of, but theres no way I'd say something like "I think arctocod is likely mafia" like risk Lynch - Prplhz - I've always gotten some weird vibes from him. Back when he said neither elected position is at all important and him saying he thinks its better if Mafia gets one of those jobs. I think its just weird logic. I'm all for you attacking risk.nuke and looking at deus-ex above me, and I realize your not really on other peoples radar, but your definetly on mine. If you can change my mind I'll definetly change my vote, I'm just saying this now as I have to go. I'll be back to re-read this all over before actual Election time. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
what he intended to say is what i said and it's so obvious that i dont need to question it at all. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Hey When did I ever say that it's better if mafia gets one of those jobs? Can you quote the post please because I can't find it  | ||
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Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
Why would it be devastating to have Radfield/Arctocod in office if they're both scum? The Mayor's role isn't really that powerful, and PYP:I was won without the Pardoner stopping a single lynch, and if the Pardoner stops a lynch without a huge reasonable then he's autolynch the next day. Wouldn't it be worse to have them out of office if they are town? and then ""why is it "very important we get these two positions filled up by people who are 100% not mafia"?"" | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
Talk to me baby, tell me what's wrong? Who do you think is mafia? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
When you said it is "very important we get these two positions filled up by people who are 100% not mafia", it sounded to me like you would rather have two people who are confirmed townies in office than two proven scum hunters like Radfield and Arctocod, who would be null tells. This makes no sense to me, especially after you used your "imaginary tone" to confirm Radfield, on a post that Radfield himself said was a null tell. There is no "100%" on day1, and even if there was, I would never pick 100% townie who can't reliably read the game over a day1 null tell who has the potential to ravage entire scum teams. Problem? I have argued that the people in office should be most accomplished scum hunters and I will be voting for them unless I get major scum vibes, and by major I mean major. This is also what just about everybody in this town thinks, so it is very likely the correct approach to elections. Now you are straight up lying when you say that "[prplhz] thinks its better if Mafia gets one of those jobs". Dude, this is just bad. Only mafia has a reason to lie to discredit somebody, wouldn't you agree? Town would clear matters and minds up, but you just jump to conclusion and then you discredit me and try to get me lynched. | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
I think the case on Zeks is terrible too. I've yet to read Zentor. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
zeks and risk performance pretty poorly... zentor might be coached scum. sheth looks like town to me. i got to reread prplhz and greymist since my reads on them have been pretty acurate in the past... erandorr being afk means he's scum. however this game is special, maybe he relys on curu. curus scumplay isnt less active compared to his townplay... yes. thats it so far. right now i am at the university and i have a meeting later on like 100km from here. i guess i'll be at home 3 hours before the lynch and try to talk to annul. i hope he can be around at the deadline. thats it so far | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
they perform pretty poorly sorry for my horrible english, but i am walking around and somehow typing on this tiny screen.. you know what i mean?! i guess i'll have some time when i am in the train... | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
somewhere he commented my convo with risk... and pointed something out. i dont find it right now. but i have to admit, i have no special hint or something for my townguess. if you think its worth it i will read him later on more carefully... | ||
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