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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
Who cares, you still suck for not posting more. Fix it. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4397 Posts
He throws out a name to lynch with no reason behind it. On December 13 2011 12:39 Nisani201 wrote: We could also lynch a lurker (such as TotallyNotTwoPeople). Again, I want more information. Greymist immediately quotes this and his response: On December 13 2011 14:11 Nisani201 wrote: I just read Greymist's analysis on Jistu and I think he is much more viable lynch then Zeks. Eiii, why are you voting MyZentor? You provided no reason other than a quote. Somewhat off topic: after playing in XLVII, this is much more relaxing... so much better not having 100 players or whatever it was that game. Why is Jistu a better lynch than zeks? Just cos Greymist said so? | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
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DropBear
Australia4397 Posts
- I want to hear less from Sheth. You are spamming like crazy dude and none of it is helpful. It's nice that you're excited about your first game but calm down. - I'm not really that convinced by Greymist's case on Jitsu. It's his first game and he is confused by one of the acronyms, there's nothing in that. - The zeks and MrZentor interaction is interesting. zeks did go back on himself, zentor pointed that out. Zeks also pre-emptively defended himself with this: On December 13 2011 09:47 zeks wrote: Gone for the rest of the night hitting the gym then gotta wake up early for work tomorrow inb4 the "i'm sidestepping and laying low and ducking arguments" when i don't post for the next 12 hours or so which isn't really necessary. It hints at either a guilty conscience or someone However the method Zentor chose to call him out, the timing (being after a couple of votes are on him) and the bizarre statement about hydras being universally good is suss too. I'm not ready to vote for either of them. This needs more time to develop. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4397 Posts
- What LAL is - Mayor candidates should tell us why to vote for them - What the abilities of Mayor and Pardoner are. This is all filler. On December 13 2011 15:09 GiygaS wrote: Woops 5 people. Also, I agree, the election is pretty much over at this point :/ 1) Zeks: Let's be honest, I'm not going to rehash what we have against him as it's been said multiple times already. If you don't know, read the thread and you'll see. That said, his responses since my initial accusation have been sufficient and calmly answered with good logic behind them, so I am removing my vote for now, as others (as in Eii) are. 2) Dropbear: + Show Spoiler + On December 13 2011 13:39 Spaackle wrote: Lynching a lurker should be our ABSOLUTE last option. Rather than taking them out of the game, we should instead make as much of an effort to bring them into the discussions as we can. I'll start by saying that DropBear is looking a bit scummy to me. He makes a post telling us to vote for him, not lynch a hydra, endorses Radfield, and discourages discussion on the mayor and pardoner roles. He then promptly disappears off the face of the planet, reappearing only to dodge a bit of poking from arctocod. DropBear's filter + Show Spoiler + LOL Kavdragon the village idiot. I am running for mayor too I've played over 10 games with a reasonable win rate. I also have been sniped really early the last few times I've played due to nailing mafia early and want to last longer this time. I suck horribly at lying and am really obvious as a Mafia so you know what you are getting. I don't think voting for any of the hydras is a good idea, they are hydras because they don't have the time/effort to be involved individually. Vote for a single player people. I would endorse Radfield other than myself as he is easily the best player here and I feel is also not that hard to tell his alignment. These posts about what the mayor and pardoner do and why they are important are basically spam. We can read we know what the roles do. Focus on who we are electing and why rather than clutter the thread. Cos this tactic worked so well last time Palmar -_- DropBear's scumminess makes some sense here: Throw in your bid for mayor, just so that scum can have a bid, then, when you see that it isn't going well, vanish in the confusion of the arguments of the other candidates. DropBear, please give us some more information: prove to us that you are not scum, because right now, you look pretty scummy. I'm casing my lynch vote right now for DropBear To clarify: I'm not changing my mind in the same post: I still think that lynching all lurkers is a bad thing. I'm using my vote in this case to put some pressure on a very scummy looking lurker to try and draw him back into the discussion. If DropBear can prove to me that he's not scum, my vote will go somewhere else. This is what Spaackle has said on him. And I'm starting to agree with him, especially because on of our vets actually declared suspicion on Dropbear but noone really payed any attention to it: + Show Spoiler + On December 12 2011 15:37 Arctocod wrote: Dropbear is suspicious based his very first post because he is making a ridiculous assumption about our activity in order to prevent us from being elected. The main point of me and palmar being hydras is that we know each others alignment and can thus freely discuss everything. It has nothing to do with activity and I can assure you we will be very active. Why would dropbear want to make that assumption? The townie motivation for it is quite weak as activity is something that will speak for itself. FoS on Dropbear 3) MrZentor Honestly, I don't see why people are really going on this guy: All of his posts could be theoretically made by an inactive or bad townie, and he only has 30 posts. That said, the support against him is also pretty weak, as I tend to see a lot of newer players jump on bandwagons (especially early on in the game), in their first games. One so new can feel threatened by what people are saying and just sort of latch on to the concrete thing, which was at that time votes on Zeks. Personally, I don't think he's even 50% town (more like 40%), but a relatively null-read is hard to base a decision off of. 4) Eii: #1 Not really strong, as it's been pretty well defended with good logic, but it's some circumstantial evidence nonetheless: + Show Spoiler + On December 12 2011 13:29 Eiii wrote: I'm going to be voting for one of the hydras, in all likelihood-- from my experience, multi-person players (especially with experienced, devoted mafia players behind them) can absolutely wreck games like this. Having a pro-town hydra behind a bodyguard should be town's goal for today, in my opinion. On December 13 2011 09:09 Eiii wrote: I'm going to be voting Radfield for mayor/pardoner. He would be good to have in either role, and now that he's posted some more I'm pretty confident that he's legit. If anyone hasn't looked at the election voting thread yet, it's literally all rad/arc, so it looks like our candidates are decided unless anyone has some major objections. Why not vote for the hydra (the kind of person you want in?) You even mention the perfect candidate in Arc :/ #2: Already making excuses: + Show Spoiler + On December 13 2011 09:09 Eiii wrote: I'm not going to lie, I generally don't really have any clue what's going on day 1, and this game is no exception. There is literally no reason for a town to say this. The only reason I can actually come up with this is: A) Adding fluff, which is Mafia logic B) Setting up an excuse if he get's caught on anything in Day 1 #3 He kind of hopped on my Zeks bandwagon :/ Overall this is only enough for an FoS, but I want to see how he responds: FoS on Eiii 5) Jitsu: I really don't see any merit to what Greymist has been saying. They are just really weak arguments against someone IMO A FoS on me because Palmar said so. Cool. It's the Eiii case that interests me. He's scummy for voting Radfield instead of Arc. Why? He said he isn't good on day 1. So? He made a pressure vote on zeks. So? GiygaS spends most of his posts repeating basic concepts. He is attempting to look helpful but is saying nothing. The case on Eiii is really bad. He is a good lynch because he is active but saying and doing nothing. I am voting for GiygaS. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:45 DropBear wrote: - I want to hear more from xsksc. He was extremely active in Steamship and Newbie Mafia, he has all of three posts here. I agree with this. xsksc's play is very different so far previous games I have seen him in. He's around but not contributing. | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:13 Radfield wrote: I agree with this. xsksc's play is very different so far previous games I have seen him in. He's around but not contributing. Sure. I'm here, I just don't know what to discuss right now. My election vote's already decided. I don't really have any reads right now as it's so early. What would you guys like me to talk about? | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
- I want to hear less from Sheth. You are spamming like crazy dude and none of it is helpful. It's nice that you're excited about your first game but calm down. Also I disagree with this. Posting is never bad unless you are spamming hardcore, and every post sheth has made has had substance. Even if he isn't helping us find scum with those posts, he is helping us determine his alignment. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:19 xsksc wrote: Sure. I'm here, I just don't know what to discuss right now. My election vote's already decided. I don't really have any reads right now as it's so early. What would you guys like me to talk about? If you had to lynch someone right now who would you lynch? If zeks, jitsu, gigyas, dropbear and MrZentor were all getting lynched today, and you could pardon as many of them as you wanted, which ones would you pardon? | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On December 13 2011 18:38 Cwave wrote: Ayyyyyyyyy, a classic poke by Radfield and you respond with those words. You are getting my vote for now unless someone slips up. As for my mayor running campagne.... i think it's snowed under the vets and i have no chance of winning. Shame cause i am a straighforward townsmen who has what it takes to scumhunt. I will vote for Radfield for mayor since he comes across as a good and active player who actually gets people to post stuff like what MrZentor posted above. Mayor ##Vote: Radfield Lynch ##Vote: MrZentor | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:20 Radfield wrote: If you had to lynch someone right now who would you lynch? If zeks, jitsu, gigyas, dropbear and MrZentor were all getting lynched today, and you could pardon as many of them as you wanted, which ones would you pardon? If I had to lynch someone right now on a hunch I would lynch Prof Badass. If I had to pardon one of the above, I'd probably pardon Dropbear. His filter looks the most pro-town at the moment, more so than the others at least. Obviously this is just vibes and feelings at the moment, I don't have anything solid to go on yet. | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I would lynch Refallen I think. ProfBadass is basically inactive right now, which is not necessarily scummy by itself. I highly doubt he will stay inactive as well, so we'll see what they bring when they show up. | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
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Spaackle
United States153 Posts
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On December 13 2011 13:23 GreYMisT wrote: Building off Eii's accusations, here you say that either zeks is stupid or mafia, then you nonchalantly say that we should lynch him because he is the all we have at the moment in the next post. To me this doesnt look like an accusation or pressure, to me this looks like someone jumping on an easy wagon. To add to this I don't even know if MrZentor knows whats going on in this game 1. "Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one" - Posting random BS to stay barely active and won't be called out for lurker 2. "Kill the hydra" - There are multiple hydras dude? 3. "Having the hydra only helps town" - Yeah as if hydra can't be scum 4. "dangerous for the town" - When did I ever say that ? Stop sticking words in my mouth Don't call people stupid or scum when you're the one exhibiting those qualities. Easy vote today And in addition right after MrZentor posts his terrible case on me and GreyMist logically figures that out - within the next 2 hours the 2 votes on me are dropped. Suspicious. Especially GiygaS who's tone in his posting has varied much in this game - I mean how do you get a null read from MrZentor seriously? | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 13 2011 17:12 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: Having only two real candidates for mayor/pardoner makes me uneasy, but I even more dislike the half-assed mayoral campaign that promises activity and follows it up by being inactive. Can any player who has played with them (Curu/Erandorr) before give some insight as to how active they generally are as town versus scum? And to Curu/Erandorr, any particular reason for the lack of activity? And why did you run for mayor and then put no effort into it? About having only two candidates, quick glance it doesn't really mean much. If two good towncandidates gets selected fast enough it can be risky for mafia to push a third candidate without putting alot of mafia eggs in the basket. Altough honestly this time I feel it speaks in the favor of one of the candidates beeing mafia. Because if I were mafia and they were both town and someone else of the by radfield nominated veterans were mafia I would try to get that mafia veteran elected. While leaving other mafia out of it I would see if I can get townies to support it. Nothing to lose, everything to win. However nothing of that sort happend. There is also the possibilty that none of the listed veterans are mafia in which case the election would look pretty much like this but I deem that less likely. I think Arctocod is likely mafia but I'm not going to do anything about that now. He will have to play pro-town because I will watch him like a hawk. Todays lynches I would like one of these two. Graymist and GiygaS. Though there is a dilemma. I am more sure on Graymist then on Giygas and we'll learn more from Graymists flip then Giygas. Against Graymist probably beeing a more valuable townie then Giygas. | ||
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