Pick Your Power Interesting! - Page 12

On October 12 2011 04:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Rock Star bodyguards are taken from vanilla players-
So here's a question that likely won't need an answer but...
What happens if there aren't two vanilla roles?

On October 12 2011 05:28 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Which strikes me as odd, maybe this role should be named something else; eg. Tycoon?
'Politician' really should sell-out, more of a: Can gives away his vote daily -> And in a PYP that would require some sort of plus side to it to be a viable pick, probably along the lines of protecting your choice somehow

On October 12 2011 05:15 GreYMisT wrote:
Question about the Mad Hatter (never played a game with it before), If the Mad Hatter is lynched do his bombs go off? or is it only if he is kp'ed?

On September 28 2011 12:22 Protactinium wrote:
[*]Time Cycle: 48/24, Deadline at 03:00 GMT (+00:00)

On September 28 2011 12:22 Protactinium wrote:
28. Scamp
27 of 27 players remain

On October 12 2011 11:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'm spending my 3k post to tell you all how much I love you. <3

(Also because I need to play the game, and can't do that without posting. )

On October 12 2011 12:28 JimboSilvers wrote:
Since it is going to come up, I'll say this now.

Almost half the player-base is Mafia. This makes denying powerful mafia roles nearly impossible, and not cost effective. The best course for the role picking phase will be for us to focus on getting good town roles, and letting the various mafia parties fight among themselves for the good mafia roles. (Denying each other good combos in the process)

On that note, I want to know if you guys think it's a good idea to make a coordinated list of powerful town roles, or a bad idea. The obvious upside is that if we coordinate our picks then we have a higher chance of getting more roles, but at the cost of letting every mafia knowing the general location of certain power roles.

I for one am against this sort of ordering. It's called Pick YOUR power, Not Pick THEIR Power. I'll pick my own role, thank you.

On October 12 2011 12:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

I thought about this, but what do you think is the possibility of mafia picking traditionally pro-town roles like DTs and Cops in order to hunt for the other scum teams?

I feel we're going to have to be very careful of attributing pro-towness to role, and avoiding the "confirmed town" mentality for DTs, even if they deliver a red to us. It will be more like they aren't part of that mafia family, more than that they become likely town.

That said, they'd still be useful, because they aren't going to hide red checks on the enemy families, and they're forced to confirm town, or lie about their own members, neither of which helps them in the long run.

So, I think a list of good town roles will be ok, so long as people are careful not to fall into the trap of role = alignment.

We should also try to take roles that are good in mafia or town hands, if possible.

You have the power to change how one's alignment and role appears to any detective type actions performed on them that night. You may use it on one person per night and may not use it on yourself. In addition, you may also choose to have your framed target visit anyone you choose. Any actions they perform will also be misdirected. Your target will also show up to watcher and tracker reports.

You are the god damn Batman! At night you can choose to watch a player and receive information in the form of how many people visited that person. You must write a short and colorful story whenever you publish your results.

On October 12 2011 13:08 GreYMisT wrote:


Going even further than that, the whole concept of "pro town" needs to be rethought for this game. Because scum need to kill the other scum factions, it will be rather easy for them to look "pro Town" through genuine scum-hunting. In normal games scum have to fake scum-hunt, here they do not. We cannot fall for this illusion.

Fortunalty for town, our objective is simpler than it is for scum. while scum need to blend in with the town, not draw fire, and kill all the opposing factions; all we have to do is just kill everything red. Aside from noting that scum also need to scum-hunt, I think we should not think too much about the presense of the multiple scum teams, and just treat it as one big one.

On October 12 2011 14:05 syllogism wrote:
We should make a general tier list of roles as it will definitely help avoiding conflicts and overall help players who aren't familiar with the roles and their utility. Ver's PYPI postgame list is a good starting point

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=235829


That is not to say you have to pick according to any tier list, just encouraged, and we should mix in defensive roles among the top tier. Further, I encourage everyone to read the role list rather carefully, as even standard roles may function in surprising ways. For instance framer


Meanwhile watcher is completely useless


I will be on skype and later today on irc

On October 12 2011 14:15 bumatlarge wrote:


FOOL! You will eat these words before this game is through! This may or may not be me claiming I will pick watcher depending on my numbers.

On October 12 2011 12:55 kitaman27 wrote:


kp roles may not be as important, but I do think there is value in the Ace role. Essentially everyone can be forced to claim that they are town in the thread and the role becomes the Dreamflower role, without the penalty of death if you are incorrect.

On October 12 2011 14:22 Mig wrote:


This idea is very good. It makes the Ace role godly, 2 shot vig that can only hit mafia. At the beginning of the day everyone should be required to claim town so that the person with Ace isn't required to role claim and force people to say it.