EPTOn August 21 2011 01:34 Palmar wrote:
I'm not giving it up when I think I'm right.
I'm not giving it up when I think I'm right.
Tunnelling is your main weakness, dude. You need to learn to occasionally think outside the box.
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
Tunnelling is your main weakness, dude. You need to learn to occasionally think outside the box. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Unvoting Navillus and voting Sevryn. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
I like it. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On August 21 2011 01:38 BrownBear wrote: Tunnelling is your main weakness, dude. You need to learn to occasionally think outside the box. Is it your firm belief that Sevryn will flip red? | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On August 20 2011 22:21 Palmar wrote: no worries, we will. If you think I'm scum, vote for me, if not, go hunt scum instead of posting passively about your concerns for town safety. Okay I think we actually will now but not thanks to you at all. Sevryn is scum, the reasons why have been stated a lot already. I do not buy your bearhunt, and although I dislike the way your argumentation works, I do not think you are the best vote right now either. Sure these two said some questionable things , but in the end others said things that were far worse and both defended themselves rather well , or at least they did it at all. I need to see more from Mig to decide one way or another, he too made a good case for himself. Nard , xtfftc seem very scummy as well, but right now Sevryn is the safest bet, especially if we want to get something done. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
Do you believe that he will flip scum Erandorr, are you completely sure he's red? | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On August 20 2011 16:35 Foolishness wrote: I would also like to beg to differ that I'm "defending" him. I'm not convinced yet that he's mafia, and I stated why I think that. Thus I'd rather take the wait and see approach. As I somewhat said, he's already got a few strikes; if he doesn't shape up then we kill him. Just because I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt right now does not mean I am defending him. I don't defend other people, I state why or how their actions could be misconstrued. On August 20 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote: hmm, sevryns behavior had something innocent in my eyes i don't know... Somehow I tend to buy that story... I mean the whole thing started like that: Basic situation: He knew Palmar from former games; and we all know that palmar played some good games for town recently - Palmar accuses DB; I jump on that wagon but declare it as a pressurevote. Varp shows up, says pressurevotes only work if you don't say it's a pressurevote (i 75% agree with that statement) Now the poor sevryn sees all this: he also wants to contribute something by pressurevoting, so he fakes his reason and follows varps advice and gets caught immediately... However that doesn't mean he's town. If he flips scum i know who to look at next, which makes this a very good lynch. It provides information and has a good a shot as any at getting scum. Why he's scummy has been covered before, but in short, he made an absolutely bullshit vote then called it pressure when he got called out for it: + Show Spoiler [quotes] + On August 19 2011 23:39 Sevryn wrote: Right now DB is looking the scummiest imo and after what palmar did in Swedish house mafia I am inclined to trust him. That said if there is a good case against anyone else i would be willing to give DropBear another lookskie ## vote DropBear sheeping vote and trusting Palmar unconditionally On August 20 2011 00:56 Sevryn wrote: His play was basicly them same in that game so I'm inclined to belive him do you have a better target? defending his sheeping vote On August 20 2011 03:06 Sevryn wrote: Alright since I don't see anything scummy about dropbear at this point I'm going to take my pressure vote off of him. In swedish palmer asked me to put a pressure vote on someone who turned out to be scum. Because pressure votes don't work near as well if you say its a pressure vote I made up a bullshit reason to vote in that gmae like I did this game. backing out of his vote, calling it pressure, and defending his bullshit by saying it was intentional. And now he's lurking hardcore. verdict: SCUM ##vote sevryn + Show Spoiler + also his name is fucking impossible to spell  | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
LOOK AT THIS. THAT IS THE SCUMMIEST VOTE REASON ANYONE HAS EVER SEEN IN THE ETERNITY OF ANYTHING. That is an EVEN scummier unvote reason. He wants to leave his vote uselessly somewhere. Then replies that he knew it was useless, but he's unvoting because he doesn't want us to lynch him. Yeah his reasons are pretty stupid. Guess what: townies are usually way more stupid than mafia. Sevryn seems like a shitty lynch to me. Sux that it's the only realistic one at the moment. Voting BB for now, at least he has a proper case against him. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On August 21 2011 02:26 Palmar wrote: chances of sevryn flipping scum: ~0.2% You seem awfully certain. You redFFing bro? | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On August 20 2011 07:53 supersoft wrote: ah, okay I understand, you vote for palmar, not because you think he's scum, but because he didn't convince you to vote for DB. This is scumlogic. Town doesn't vote people for playing bad. Town votes for scum. Compared to DP, who proposed some really useless plans like this unnecessary mayorthing, your stuff seems more scummy to me. ##unvote ##vote: xtfftc What is it that you don't understand? Palmar has a very agressive opening strategy and, by the time of my vote, there was no better target. Am I convinced that Palmar is Mafia? Nope. He was just the best candidate for a lynch. There is more to my post though. I acknowledged the fact that Palmar is not just randmoly trolling but has an actual strategy. Some people don't agree with me+ Show Spoiler + On August 20 2011 11:17 Varpulis wrote: ##vote palmar filter his posts. Now tell me if a single one is productive and helpful. He blindly tunnels DropBear based on meta (i think, it's such a terrible accusation though that it's not worth trying to figure out), then calls everybody who disagrees with him scum. On August 20 2011 11:18 Varpulis wrote: by calling dropbear scum 20 times in a row? Also, On August 20 2011 09:57 Foolishness wrote: he just played two games as mafia recently: Personality and PTP2. Both games he attempted to be normal and blend in; there wasn't any of this odd posting. I don't think he would radically change his style like this if he was mafia again. On August 20 2011 11:25 Foolishness wrote: If Palmar is mafia he's on drugs. Or he is deliberately changing his strategy because he knows how much people here rely on the meta game. Seriously, is this all you do? We are supposed to be playing mind games here; not judge solely on what people did last time. On August 20 2011 22:38 supersoft wrote: Lucidity ghrur is now Barundar Jackal58 xtfftc hiro protagonist Erandorr darkponcho Vain chaoser GreYMisT nard Sevryn Pyo Kurumi DropBear these guys haven't voted yet. Since not all of you can possibly be scum, I encourage you to vote in the next 2-3 hours, so we can see who the maintargets are. It has been said many times before in this thread: A no lynch would be very bad. Please don't do any more lists. You voted for me as a response to my vote for Palmar - and then you put me on a list of people who haven't voted. I do believe that this is a honest mistake and you didn't try to manipulate anyone with it but it is sloppy nevertheless. I will answer to QuickSilver in a separate post because this one is long enough anyway. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
I'm pretty amazed that you don't see this, because normally your town play is relatively solid and your reads good. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On August 21 2011 02:22 Palmar wrote: what the fuck do you mean by safest bet? Do you believe that he will flip scum Erandorr, are you completely sure he's red? Well how would I be completely sure? Out of those people accused I do think that he is the best target, that is what I mean by safest bet. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On August 21 2011 02:31 Palmar wrote: I'm pretty amazed that you don't see this, because normally your town play is relatively solid and your reads good. I see Sevyrn being scummy as all hell. His past games as Town he's looked scummy too, but in a different way. He's not afraid to put his vote on someone and keep it there unless someone brings up a better case against someone else. He defends his vote and attacks people who call his vote a sheep or bandwagon (him vs Lucidity in Kurumi's game). Here he's retracted his vote altogether, not made enemies with anyone calling him out for scuminess and disappeared forever. How do you not see this? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On August 21 2011 02:35 Curu wrote: I see Sevyrn being scummy as all hell. His past games as Town he's looked scummy too, but in a different way. He's not afraid to put his vote on someone and keep it there unless someone brings up a better case against someone else. He defends his vote and attacks people who call his vote a sheep or bandwagon (him vs Lucidity in Kurumi's game). Here he's retracted his vote altogether, not made enemies with anyone calling him out for scuminess and disappeared forever. How do you not see this? Do you not find it surprising that there are no alternative lynches? Do you think the scum team is full out bussing him? | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
Sevyrn is radioactive and any scum buddies wouldn't openly defend him with a 10 foot stick. If not for the fact that you showed up as the next candidate and that I don't think you're capable of playing that badly, defending Sevyrn so hard when there is absolutely nothing Townie about him would look suspicious. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
You got me bro | ||
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