TL Mafia XLIV - Page 121

Erandorr

2283 Posts

September 08 2011 13:16 GMT

#2401

On September 08 2011 22:03 DropBear wrote:
Wp Mafia, sorry everyone about my day 2 silliness, especially to you supersoft.

You should have seen our reactions to your claim, we were so confused :D

Kurumi

Poland6130 Posts

September 08 2011 15:23 GMT

#2402

Just because You have a gun does not mean You are right.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

September 08 2011 16:36 GMT

#2403

Palmar's absolutely right about the logic vs arguing thing. I didn't get a lick of suspicion for my giant long "analysis" posts but when I went toe-to-toe arguing with Palmar about hiro, I actually scumslipped and called Palmar Town.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 08 2011 16:54 GMT

#2404

On September 09 2011 01:36 Curu wrote:
Palmar's absolutely right about the logic vs arguing thing. I didn't get a lick of suspicion for my giant long "analysis" posts but when I went toe-to-toe arguing with Palmar about hiro, I actually scumslipped and called Palmar Town.

Well that, and I know for a fact you're not bad enough to actually believe the shit you were saying.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

September 08 2011 17:11 GMT

#2405

Eh, I'm tunnely/wrong/stupid a lot of the time as Town too. I told Mig over and over in XLIII that I had the perfect meta for scum and wouldn't be lurking as scum when he suspected me in that game cause I was borderline lurking.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 08 2011 17:14 GMT

#2406

On September 09 2011 02:11 Curu wrote:
Eh, I'm tunnely/wrong/stupid a lot of the time as Town too. I told Mig over and over in XLIII that I had the perfect meta for scum and wouldn't be lurking as scum when he suspected me in that game cause I was borderline lurking.

Difference is that you accept logic as town

I mean, this information is useless to anyone but myself, but I can usually tell by your reactions if you're scum or town, which is great for me.

You're certainly a great player, now you've proven to be both good at scum and town, so don't worry too much about it. It's like syllogism and myself, I simply can't hide the fact I'm scum from him. If syllo dies n1, I'm scum.

xtfftc

United Kingdom2343 Posts

September 09 2011 01:33 GMT

#2407

On September 08 2011 14:53 Palmar wrote:other people like xtf and wbg played alright-ish once they got the chance to pull their heads out of their asses, but that was just too late.

I do not deserve such flattery!

On September 08 2011 21:16 Erandorr wrote:
To speak very bluntly , if you behave in this agressive manner and lets be honest like abit of a dick, people , especially newer ones, will not listing to you.

Personally I had no problem with this but I just don't mind cocky behaviour as long as it is based on something (good contributions in this case). But I must agree that it was often benefitial to mafia - at one point I did not want to agree with Palmar publicly, although he had managed to convince me, just because his attitude was making me doubt him.

I'd like to say a few things on my gameplay. Naturally, with this being my first game (apart from some SC2 Mafia but it's nothing like the real thing) I was plain horrible.
Considering that, I think I did okay at defending myself and following leads - although it was only after I died that I realised how much of my analysis was based on people lurking, which was completely wrong.

I did pretty bad as medic, of course. I was happy with my decision not to protect Chaoser after his claim... only to find out that Curu, whom I healed instead, was mafia as well. And it got even worse when I convinced myself that I should actually protect Chaoser and did it the second night after his claim. :/

I wouldn't normally reveal my thinking but I feel like I should defend myself (really scummy, I know). Being a blue, I started the game with the idea to be a bit suspicious in order to avoid the attention of the mafia. Pretty soon I realised that this plan wasn't that smart, of course: mafia were going to be much more interested in the veteran players and by attracting the attention to myself I was simply giving them an easier ride. Also, the way I executed this strategy was rather poor. Some of the suspicious things I did were planned but others were completely unintentional.

I did annoy Supersoft on purpose once I felt safe enough though. I thought it'd be a good idea to observe other people's reactions to it. Which would have been great - if only I had trusted myself enough to finish what I started. It made me really suspicious of Curu and I wrote a case against him but never posted it because I was sure that quite a few townies would instantly read it as an OMGUS reaction. Now I know better not to worry too much about people freaking out. It is bound to happen, so it shouldn't stop a townie from revealing their thought process - even when their findings are flat out wrong.

Also, now that I am rereading the thread, I notice that Erandorr also did exactly what I was hoping for mafia to do - but I forgot about it immediately as well.

Anyway, I have a question. I decided to protect Foolishness on night 2 and 3, although I thought that it wasn't a good move: I was sure that mafia would either stack KPs on him or eliminate others. What is a good strategy for medic in this case? Is it all WIFOM? (if they expect me to protect him, they'll go for someone else; but if I expect them to go for someone else, I don't have to protect him; but then they don't have to stack KPs on him and can use just one; etc....)