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glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
January 20 2012 17:04 GMT
#2881
I voted how I did because I agree with p4ndemiks analysis of BM, he lately really started behaving weird. Also he is most likely to get lynched since he got the most votes. If hes a mad hatter, like he claimed and only placed one bomb so far, that would suck but it's a risk we should take.

kingjames i find really confusing he does nothing but accuse different people with weak at best arguments for being mafia. I have to admit i'm not completely convinced he's mafia, but without him we could maybe spend more ressources towards finding some more mafia and less random pointing.
I'm still not completely set on the kingjames vote, so if someone can convince me of someone better i will consider it.

I'm going out tonight, so i might not be able to change my vote in time. Will try my best though.

Also i'm claiming Mason.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 20 2012 17:09 GMT
#2882
On January 21 2012 02:04 glurio wrote:
Also i'm claiming Mason.


then you surely will have some logs to actually provide some content to your beloved town?

A log would help a lot to figure you out
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
January 20 2012 17:13 GMT
#2883
I didn't mason anyone on day 1, was busy reading the thread.
Tried to mason with BC on day 2 he never answered.
+ Show Spoiler +
To: BloodyC0bbler [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Mason
Date: 1/17/12 19:31
Hey so what do you think is our best course of action right now?


So there really isn't anything i can post yet.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 17:18 GMT
#2884
On January 21 2012 01:49 Toadesstern wrote:
Someone willing to share some thoughts about BC, protact and Bum?

I'm having a really hard time to judge them and I'm fine trusting them as long as they keep delivering mafias but I'm kind of scared I might be wrong here (I guess we'll see about that after the lynch).
Protact looks to be town to me, but somthing bothers me, same with BC. Bum is just a complete null for me: Thought he's town d1. thought he's fishy d1.5, and I'm basicly getting different vibes all the time.

BC I'm inherently distrusting and its difficult for me to get past his reputation but if I had to say I'd put him as town. I had my moments where I doubted Protact's town rep the day after the election, but those feelings disappeared with the successful Macpo lynch. I'm finding it difficult to keep them from resurfacing though today as he's sort of been orchestrating everything from the shadows for this day period but that was his style from the get-go and it has worked for him thus far so I'm still trusting his judgment.

That said I'm very confident that the current leaders for today's double lynch are indeed mafia and these two have been all over them all day long. I expect to get farther confirmation of their town alignment tonight but if we don't go 2 for 2 there may still be room for doubt.

bumatlarge I have a harder time with because his activity has waned a bit over the last few days. He has little else to his name atm other than this continued hunt on Meapak which when put in perspective looks very odd when there are strong cases elsewhere as far as I am concerned (and the majority of the town is concerned). However his behavior early in the game seems that of a focused townie that has clear goals with his vote and is annoyed why Jackal makes off-topic comments.

Of the three, I'm probably leaning town on all of them, with BC being the weakest read of the lot.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 17:35 GMT
#2885
Also, for those town out there who have yet to cast your vote. I want to make my case against supersoft visible to you again in case you have not seen it. To this moment I find his defense posts (effort #1 - effort #2 - effort #3) to be weak and seething with mafia apathy.

He has been a nonfactor for some time when it comes to furthering town goals of catching mafia and has done little to nothing to put his name in good standing. In this sense I feel like he is an even better candidate than kingjames. The only things standing between him and what I still feel should be a landslide lynch vote is a number of other compelling cases, and his relative inactivity in the thread compared to the hollering of kingjames and the idiocy of BM. Use your best judgment, but please consider this case against supersoft. I feel we have a veritable smorgasbord of mafia targets at our disposal at the moment, and that's a great thing, but the strength of a few cases shouldn't let another pass by unnoticed.

Unless someone that I see as a random lynch at this point somehow threatens to take kingjames' name off the chopping block I will keep my second vote on supersoft for these reasons.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
January 20 2012 17:46 GMT
#2886
On January 20 2012 22:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.

If on the off chance BM flips town I'd have no problem hanging you.


On January 20 2012 22:41 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.

Wait, you specifically asked him to? If so, can you prove all logs between you two?



Use logic, bro's. Yes, I asked him. There was reasoning behind it. Saying you want to hang me before even hearing any part of the idea is pretty stupid, I feel.

On January 21 2012 02:13 glurio wrote:
I didn't mason anyone on day 1, was busy reading the thread.
Tried to mason with BC on day 2 he never answered.
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To: BloodyC0bbler [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Mason
Date: 1/17/12 19:31
Hey so what do you think is our best course of action right now?


So there really isn't anything i can post yet.


Did anyone else think "Mafia Mason" at this post?
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 20 2012 17:48 GMT
#2887
I did not. What did I miss that made you think it's a mafia mason?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 17:59 GMT
#2888
On January 21 2012 02:13 glurio wrote:
I didn't mason anyone on day 1, was busy reading the thread.
Tried to mason with BC on day 2 he never answered.
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To: BloodyC0bbler [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Mason
Date: 1/17/12 19:31
Hey so what do you think is our best course of action right now?


So there really isn't anything i can post yet.


Did anyone else think "Mafia Mason" at this post?[/QUOTE]
Yes but mostly because it automatically reminds me of this horrible mason claim:

On January 20 2012 07:22 supersoft wrote:
pandemik. I am not mafia. I admit, that my activitylevel is poor. But that has to do with my role: I am mason.
I claim right now, because scum already has that information. I masoned L yesterday and he refused to talk to me.
He was never online when I was.
With that information it's quite easy for you to know who I masoned Day1. It obviously was WBG and we talked a lot about Palmar. Obviously.

From now on I'll be more active in the thread. Promised.

On it's own merit I'm not entirely sure what to make of glurio's claim as there isn't much to it. It certainly reads in a more favorable light than supersoft's.
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
January 20 2012 18:01 GMT
#2889
1. Guy clearly lurks. He's got, what, 5 posts in the entire thread? Doesn't even come in to explain why he voted on a player. Literally every one of his posts is apologizing for being busy in real life (which really isn't needed) and how he promises to participate (which he never does).

2. In my mind, the Mafia Mason would mason someone last. The idea behind this is because it would take time for the Scum team to decide on who was going to play the part of the mason. He said he didn't Mason anyone Day one because he was too busy reading the thread? Right...so busy reading the thread, you are able to make choices and decisions based on what you've read. I can understand that from the massive amount of analysis in you're filter.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2012 18:05 GMT
#2890
On January 21 2012 03:01 Jitsu wrote:
1. Guy clearly lurks. He's got, what, 5 posts in the entire thread? Doesn't even come in to explain why he voted on a player. Literally every one of his posts is apologizing for being busy in real life (which really isn't needed) and how he promises to participate (which he never does).

2. In my mind, the Mafia Mason would mason someone last. The idea behind this is because it would take time for the Scum team to decide on who was going to play the part of the mason. He said he didn't Mason anyone Day one because he was too busy reading the thread? Right...so busy reading the thread, you are able to make choices and decisions based on what you've read. I can understand that from the massive amount of analysis in you're filter.


Factor in that his pm to me was roughly half the way through the game day, he if he was reading the thread, would have known I was actively trying to get macpo and jackal as the vote choices and would have known the direction I wanted things to go. He then votes without justifying why. He only justified why this time as he was called out on it.

-_- hes been on my scumlist since he mason'd me as he waited near a full day to send me a message that anyone in the thread could have answered. Which is why I ignored him.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 20 2012 18:08 GMT
#2891
On January 21 2012 03:01 Jitsu wrote:
1. Guy clearly lurks. He's got, what, 5 posts in the entire thread? Doesn't even come in to explain why he voted on a player. Literally every one of his posts is apologizing for being busy in real life (which really isn't needed) and how he promises to participate (which he never does).

2. In my mind, the Mafia Mason would mason someone last. The idea behind this is because it would take time for the Scum team to decide on who was going to play the part of the mason. He said he didn't Mason anyone Day one because he was too busy reading the thread? Right...so busy reading the thread, you are able to make choices and decisions based on what you've read. I can understand that from the massive amount of analysis in you're filter.


yeah thought that's what you're talking about. I never saw the name myself and he's not in my sheet as well. Figured he replaced someone and it took some time to read the whole thread.
I'm not saying he looks good I'm just saying we probably should give those who replaced in a little time to get things rolling and I'm not only talking about this guy but about everyone who replaced in.
Sure if it's going to stay that way it's scummy but for now I'm ok with it.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 18:09 GMT
#2892
Guys ez on the guy he was a replacement for d3 and he came into the thread like 30 pages behind. Not to mention he entered when day 1 was more than half over.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 20 2012 18:14 GMT
#2893
and actually I don't like the fact that BC's going after him at all given that he's a replacement.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 18:17 GMT
#2894
That said it doesn't excuse the waiting to mason BC until extremely late in the day cycle. He just did the same with me not an hour ago, asking the same exact question Toad did about you BC (but this seems a bit excusable considering you decided to stonewall him yesterday).

Original Message From glurio:
Hey as you probably saw, i'm a mason.
You're my target for the cycle.
I liked your analysis and posts so i masoned you.
What are your thoughts on BC?

Lets consider everything though.

1) He's new, and he came into the game late with a backlog of like 30 pages he needed to catch up on
2) He read through countless pages of talk that disputed whether is role was worth a damn at all in the first place (I'm assuming he did read)

I could see him coming out of the experience a bit exhausted and feeling neutered in his role. It feels plausible.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 18:21 GMT
#2895
On January 21 2012 03:14 Toadesstern wrote:
and actually I don't like the fact that BC's going after him at all given that he's a replacement.

No kidding. You make such a concerted effort early game to chop the dicks off of every mason in the game and then when some dickless looking masons show up later you say it is characteristic of mafia when really its characteristic of the atmosphere you went about creating yourself in the thread. Pardon the language but I feel it is appropriate.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 20 2012 18:24 GMT
#2896
...
the case against me is horrible.

I masoned wbg and told him i am going to mason L.
I even softclaimed masoning L in the thread.
Why would I do all this. He didn't even respond me.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 20 2012 18:25 GMT
#2897
I dont think glurio is a good lynch for mainly the reasons p4ndemik stated. Kinjames, your case sucks and seems fairly scummy. Bill Murray's claim and posts today are scummy enough to get my vote today. I really distrust our mayor at this time but can not say he is scummier than GGQ or BM.

##vote Bill Murray
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 20 2012 18:28 GMT
#2898
Voting BM due to the potential hilarity of lynching a sheriff mad hatter that explodes Protactinium (or maybe because I think he is scum, one of the two).

For the second lynch, I'll have to take a stronger look after class.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 18:32 GMT
#2899
On January 21 2012 03:24 supersoft wrote:
...
the case against me is horrible.

I masoned wbg and told him i am going to mason L.
I even softclaimed masoning L in the thread.
Why would I do all this. He didn't even respond me.

Please be so kind to explain why masoning L exonerates you in any way. Claiming to mason someone who later flipped red, and not having any proof that you actually did so proves nothing and sure as hell doesn't say you are town aligned. These can still be the actions of either a town mason or a mafia mason.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
January 20 2012 18:40 GMT
#2900

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