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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 20 2012 08:32 GMT
#2841
I think it's time to consolidate the votes. In addition, if you voted for a double lynch yesterday and any of your votes are on something random, well that's not a good thing to do.
Cheese is good for you!
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 08:44 GMT
#2842
On January 20 2012 08:38 GGQ wrote:
I think there's more that enough on BM to justify a vote right now.

The second vote is trickier, I'm considering supersoft and p4ndemic, but I'm not enthusiastic about lynching kingjames. No one seems to have noted that cyber_cheese's activity level is sharply decreased this day phase, which only furthers my suspicions of him.

Not that this determines his alignment one way or the other, but can WBG confirm that supersoft did, in fact, mason him?

I got stuff to do, and I'm pretty happy with my votes at the moment.
Anyone who is indecisive, get your ass on Chaosquo.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 08:48 GMT
#2843
One random thought I did have though. Since two vigs flipped last night, we can't prove it was Jackal who shot L.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
January 20 2012 08:54 GMT
#2844
two other replacements that did not get mentioned by jcarlsoniv.
2. Cwave replaced Refallen
26. glurio replaced d3_crescentia

can medics can save people from lynch triggered mad hatter bombs? Actually even worse question,first,
If you are killed you will throw the switch and detonate them. Does this includes lynches?


I'm still against consecutive double lynches, particularly since we seem to be down a bunch of kp. Let's see how this one pans out before we use our final one.

Was going to comment on jackal claiming after the day post but forget how nice and timely it was.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 09:00 GMT
#2845
I feel like double lynching tomorrow would be good.
We get a lot of new information with the lynches and nk's, and the sooner we kill mafia, the sooner their kp is lowered.
##Vote Double Lynch
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 09:12 GMT
#2846
On January 20 2012 14:47 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:29 Nisani201 wrote:
Meapak, your case against Opz is not very good. You are basically calling him scum for being wrong (about Protact), while throwing in some mafia kill WIFOM.

I guess you didn't read it then lol. If you had you'd know those are two supporting tenets not the main idea.

OK then fine, you're calling him out for being consistent and pressuring against Protact...

Chainsaw much?

If anything was a chainsaw defence, you just attacked Meapak for his case on Opz.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 20 2012 09:14 GMT
#2847
I am going to be reading after GSL, and I live in the Eastern time zone. This should prove to you all how much I want the Teamliquid town to improve. It takes individual growth for us to grow as a team.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 09:51 GMT
#2848
You're reading the thread and we should take that as some glorious proof of how pro town you are?

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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 20 2012 10:10 GMT
#2849
On January 20 2012 12:35 kingjames01 wrote:
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On January 20 2012 12:27 Scamp wrote:
kingjames01 I have a question for you.

Who do you think is mafia other than p4NDemik?


Well let's wait until BC has a chance to do his 'analysis' and then we can all decide together. Until then I am not going to respond anymore. Too many posts and we're all going to lose focus. If I am going to get mislynched I want to draw out a few of my suspects. I hope the mafia are wishing that they had killed me already.


According to the Day 3 tally flamewheel put up, BloodyC0bbler has voted for you. Do you have anything to say about this? I find it odd that you want to wait out for him to do more analysis of other targets. It looks like he already chose his two people unless this is to be changed. A few of your posts have also been a bit misleading at least to me.

Currently I'm leaning towards voting kingjames01 as my second target.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 20 2012 10:15 GMT
#2850
On January 20 2012 13:44 sandroba wrote:
Holy fucking shigt toadstem every post you make you call me mafia at lest 7 times wtf is wrong with you. I nddv to crash i'll read every \\tihionh tp,prow


whatever that was meant to be but:
give me a single reason to believe you're town. Just a single one.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 20 2012 10:29 GMT
#2851
On January 20 2012 17:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
One random thought I did have though. Since two vigs flipped last night, we can't prove it was Jackal who shot L.

I called my shot before the day post bro.
Life can only kill you once.
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 20 2012 10:33 GMT
#2852
What I mean by being mislead is what I will bold/red in your quotes below:

On January 14 2012 09:08 kingjames01 wrote:
Alright, I've been at work all day and it's taken me quite a while to catch up in the reading.

I'm going to reiterate, that I support the Bodyguards being made public. There was a point raised earlier which suggested that if this plan were carried through, the elected officials would be more vulnerable. I don't think that is the case. I have already stated my reasoning but here is the idea again.

If at least one of the Bodyguards is Town, then they player has to die before our Mayor and/or Sheriff are vulnerable.

If both Bodyguards die, everyone will be on guard and can then start to protect the elected officials.

If at most one dies, then the Mayor and/or Sheriff are still safe. Why? Because the mafia will have to trade at least one of their own to kill the Mayor and/or Sheriff.



Next, I think the Mass Mason Roleclaim is a terrible plan. The mafia know the roles of 10 players out of 50, namely, their own players. If all of the Masons claim, then they know the roles of more players in the game. If they can, they will target our powerful Blue roles, like Town Jack, Medic, Detective.

Why are you guys okay with helping them to narrow down their targets?


On January 16 2012 11:59 kingjames01 wrote:
Why I wasn't able to post in the game is between myself and the mods. The details do nothing to enhance the game and can be revealed by the mods during or after the game.

It is entirely within my right to scrutinze you. You put yourself out there when you decided to run for an elected position. In fact, that was one of your pillars on which you ran your candidacy.

I have never suggested or supported the lynching of your Bodyguards. As long there are precautions taken to give us the names of the Bodyguards in the event of your or BM's early demise, I am fine with it. However, since I respect your abilities to succeed as scum, I don't trust your intentions. I don't trust your actions. I don't trust your plans.

Mafia is a game of information. The control of information is crucial to both sides. In a game with so many posts, information can be lost or buried so easily. Instead, look at our actions and discuss what they accomplished.

I am very vocal about the Bodyguards being made public. What was the purpose? To ensure that we at least come out even if the Mayor and/or Sheriff were killed prematurely.

I am very vocal against the idea that Masons should mass claim. Why? To allow experienced Masons to work unhampered and be able to disseminate any information in the future without fear of being lynched upon surfacing.

I summarize a big-picture look at the major events of Day 1 in an effort to help re-focus the Town. I can't do it by myself but that is the best, pro-Town move that we can all do, other than to find a scum.

What have you done?

You ran a candidacy based on accountability. You re-iterated that all elected officials be watched carefully.

You pushed a calm Town into a frenzy with your Mason claim, (which can no longer be verified).

You initiated a mass Mason plan which effectively hamstrings any Masons who want to work in private.

You lynched a Town player with input based on some compromise that we can't see.

All I'm asking is that you be accountable to your election platform and to your actions. Stop trying to start a fight. Give us your PM logs.






On January 19 2012 22:33 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 18:30 Cwave wrote:
On January 13 2012 20:16 kingjames01 wrote:
After some consideration, I think it might be best for the Bodyguards to be made public. The Town will fall behind quickly if the mafia take both Bodyguard roles and the elected roles are killed without divulging the names of the Bodyguards.

Here's my analysis on this:
Case 1) 2 x Town Bodyguard
As long as one of the Bodyguards is alive, our elected officials are protected. They will not require protection before the Bodyguards are killed thus freeing a Medic to do something else. If a player dedicates themselves to protecting a Bodyguard until they die, then the elected officials are protected as well.

Case 2) 1 x Town Bodyguard
If the mafia kills the Town Bodyguard then the elected officials are vulnerable. However, if the elected officials are targetted we will have learned that the other Bodyguard is mafia. Not a good trade, but at least we don't come away with nothing.

Case 3) 0 x Town Bodyguard
Here, if either of the elected officials are killed before the Bodyguards are both lynched, we'll have confirmed mafia.



Went through your filter Kingjames and found this interesting.
Now that the election is long over, how do you feel about this post(which you posted prior to the election).
Still think BG's should claim?

On January 16 2012 11:59 kingjames01 wrote:
I am very vocal about the Bodyguards being made public. What was the purpose? To ensure that we at least come out even if the Mayor and/or Sheriff were killed prematurely.


Vocal meaning?



I never said THEY should claim. I supported the Mayor and/or the Sheriff releasing their names. The reasoning was laid out multiple times. However, I'm satisfied that the names are out there in one form or another.


When you release names of the bodyguards, aren't you indirectly forcing them to claim? That's why I felt I was being mislead by your posts.

Also, your case against p4NDemik is interesting. I haven't paid much attention to him but he has posted a lot recently. I'll read into your posts against him later today.

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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 20 2012 10:45 GMT
#2853
On January 20 2012 18:14 Bill Murray wrote:
I am going to be reading after GSL, and I live in the Eastern time zone. This should prove to you all how much I want the Teamliquid town to improve. It takes individual growth for us to grow as a team.


BM... are you on drugs cause your posts are all over the place man....
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 20 2012 11:01 GMT
#2854
On January 20 2012 17:54 evantrees wrote:
can medics can save people from lynch triggered mad hatter bombs? Actually even worse question,first,
If you are killed you will throw the switch and detonate them. Does this includes lynches?


Protect only works at night, so no. Yes death by lynch triggers bomb.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 11:09 GMT
#2855
On January 20 2012 19:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 17:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
One random thought I did have though. Since two vigs flipped last night, we can't prove it was Jackal who shot L.

I called my shot before the day post bro.

Woah, I thought you were sputtering random crap..
No-eL, pretty clever
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 20 2012 12:01 GMT
#2856
Cyber Cheese, you voted for a double lynch again? Can you explain why?
Cheese is good for you!
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 20 2012 12:26 GMT
#2857
On January 20 2012 18:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I feel like double lynching tomorrow would be good.
We get a lot of new information with the lynches and nk's, and the sooner we kill mafia, the sooner their kp is lowered.
##Vote Double Lynch


Reading is a good skill toi have
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 20 2012 12:26 GMT
#2858
On January 20 2012 19:45 Cwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 18:14 Bill Murray wrote:
I am going to be reading after GSL, and I live in the Eastern time zone. This should prove to you all how much I want the Teamliquid town to improve. It takes individual growth for us to grow as a team.


BM... are you on drugs cause your posts are all over the place man....

Yeah dude, you caught me, good job; i'm totally wasted

I've caught up on the thread, but it's 7 in the morning, so I need to go to bed. My reads have somewhat changed - I don't suspect BC nearly as much anymore; I feel like Protactinium was the mafia candidate, but they didn't expect the late votes for me/BC.

I didn't even expect to be in office. If you all put me in office, I don't see why you're lynching me now that I had two people mason me yesterday. I stopped reading actively when I got masoned, because if anything I thought it would confirm me, and I asked Jitsu to try to confirm my towniness, but I guess he has his own agenda.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 20 2012 12:31 GMT
#2859
On January 20 2012 21:26 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 19:45 Cwave wrote:
On January 20 2012 18:14 Bill Murray wrote:
I am going to be reading after GSL, and I live in the Eastern time zone. This should prove to you all how much I want the Teamliquid town to improve. It takes individual growth for us to grow as a team.


BM... are you on drugs cause your posts are all over the place man....

Yeah dude, you caught me, good job; i'm totally wasted

I've caught up on the thread, but it's 7 in the morning, so I need to go to bed. My reads have somewhat changed - I don't suspect BC nearly as much anymore; I feel like Protactinium was the mafia candidate, but they didn't expect the late votes for me/BC.

I didn't even expect to be in office. If you all put me in office, I don't see why you're lynching me now that I had two people mason me yesterday. I stopped reading actively when I got masoned, because if anything I thought it would confirm me, and I asked Jitsu to try to confirm my towniness, but I guess he has his own agenda.


:O Your towniness? Did you really just slip hardcore????

You gave me the names of the BG's when i didn't even ask for them. I thought it was a move of you to indeed keep them safe if you get lynched. But your current behaviour and the way BC is treating certain people is just too fucking weird.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 20 2012 12:48 GMT
#2860
We have plenty of good targets. I'm going to analyse a few players today. Example rgtSchwors, Kingjames and Slardar.

For now Bill Murray is the one obvious choice. He is just desperate to survive another day I don't buy his MH claim. It's too impossibly stupid to be true. And there is much bullshit in his posts.

Toad gained some early townpoints with me which is why I don't want to lynch him today,+ Show Spoiler +
I'd prefer not to post the post but I will if requested.
.
On the other hand I don't buy his vet claim and he has never been correct with alot of reads before which makes me suspicious of him. I'm leaning not lynching him but not by much,
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