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On January 20 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 11:33 kingjames01 wrote:On January 20 2012 11:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK folks. Lynches for today until a better round of analysis comes out via myself, foolishness or protract, obvious scum slips by reds or the like.
kingjames
Now, we have analyzed him already, but you guys seriously need to take a step back at what he is doing. The only person he analyzed all game till p4n was me. Not only that, but he only started to analyze other players when he started getting votes slapped on him. He has down nothing to help the town, and claimed he was attempting to draw a mafia hit. If this was true, why has he been so unhelpful and not just that, assume that a mafia would shoot him based on 3 players analyzing him as red?
The only bullet he was taking last night would have been from a vig.
Not only this, but most analysis on him always seems to get buried quickly or ignored. He is one of the primary people that should be lynched today yet only the BM one has taken up real steam. Hell if you notice, the only people voting for him atm are myself, protrac, foolishness, hiro and BM.
Mafia does not want this guy dead, cap him now.
As for the secondary target? Everyone is hopping aboard the BM wagon which at the moment has me slightly uneasy at how fast it is thus far. He seems like a solid candidate thus far but it is starting to seem almost like a misslynch.
If you guys don't like BM then move to Meapak. I will have an analysis post up on him shortly, but he is most likely red.
However Kingjames should be everyones primary vote today. I am almost starting to feel bad for you BC. You're like that pathetic little kid that always wants to be heard. You're saying all the same things but you're missing one key fact. IF you really believed me to be mafia, you should be attacking my posts. Am I wrong about p4NDemik? Why don't you use your mafia logic and discuss that? What are you so afraid of? I DARE YOU TO TAKE A STAND ON p4NDemik. bad mafia or bad town.
That's not a stand. You are attempting to equivocate.
On January 20 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Regardless, Your posts attacked him for the same general points you were analyzed for.
That's a dismissive lie. If you ACTUALLY care or at least want to MAKE A SHOW OF IT, then read my analysis on p4NDemik. Compare and contrast my intent with his. Compare and contrast the choices we make.
TAKE A STAND. Let's see who you really are this game.
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Kingjames I have a question for you.
Who else do you think is mafia other than Pandemic?
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On January 20 2012 11:52 p4NDemik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 20 2012 11:33 kingjames01 wrote:On January 20 2012 11:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK folks. Lynches for today until a better round of analysis comes out via myself, foolishness or protract, obvious scum slips by reds or the like.
kingjames
Now, we have analyzed him already, but you guys seriously need to take a step back at what he is doing. The only person he analyzed all game till p4n was me. Not only that, but he only started to analyze other players when he started getting votes slapped on him. He has down nothing to help the town, and claimed he was attempting to draw a mafia hit. If this was true, why has he been so unhelpful and not just that, assume that a mafia would shoot him based on 3 players analyzing him as red?
The only bullet he was taking last night would have been from a vig.
Not only this, but most analysis on him always seems to get buried quickly or ignored. He is one of the primary people that should be lynched today yet only the BM one has taken up real steam. Hell if you notice, the only people voting for him atm are myself, protrac, foolishness, hiro and BM.
Mafia does not want this guy dead, cap him now.
As for the secondary target? Everyone is hopping aboard the BM wagon which at the moment has me slightly uneasy at how fast it is thus far. He seems like a solid candidate thus far but it is starting to seem almost like a misslynch.
If you guys don't like BM then move to Meapak. I will have an analysis post up on him shortly, but he is most likely red.
However Kingjames should be everyones primary vote today. I am almost starting to feel bad for you BC. You're like that pathetic little kid that always wants to be heard. You're saying all the same things but you're missing one key fact. IF you really believed me to be mafia, you should be attacking my posts. Am I wrong about p4NDemik? Why don't you use your mafia logic and discuss that? What are you so afraid of? I DARE YOU TO TAKE A STAND ON p4NDemik. bad mafia or bad town. Regardless, Your posts attacked him for the same general points you were analyzed for. Also rather than actively discuss your opinion on todays other lynch choices or yesterdays lynch choices. You never explain your vote on L aside from saying you think hes mafia. As for the pathetic little kid? resorting to personal insults now? Annoyed that everyone has seen you for what you are this game? As for if i thought you were red attacking your posts? I did that before, Do you really want me to ream you again? From this assessment I assume you aren't a fan of my case against supersoft. Can you explain why you don't agree with it because I've yet to see supersoft do anything that exhonerates him in my mind. Along with BM he's had some of the worst defenses of all the people who have been accused today, and his vote for the last lynch makes zero sense to me.
Bad defenses do exist even from townies so I think that is a moot point. However I have a more town oriented read on him at the moment. Is it possible hes red? maybe, but as of now I personally see him in a more town oriented way. As of right now I honestly don't see him as a viable lynch.
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King james I will do what you ask, however till then sit the hell down and stop pushing p4n. Moreso than that, quit the double posting. It spams away posts and is feigned activity. If your going to repost something clarify its a repost before doing so.
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United States13896 Posts
Fair enough townies make bad defense posts. But can you extrapolate farther on why you disagree with the finer points of my case against him. You say you have a town read on him and you don't see it as a viable lynch but you aren't speaking to any of my analysis at all.
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hey there KJ: Vote sandro, he's 2nd atm and may be your pass to life another day!
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Hey mods, can I get a listing of who replaced who in this game?
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On January 19 2012 13:01 p4NDemik wrote:I've been incredibly lazy over the last few days (I've been reading the thread but the first couple of days left me pretty burnt out -___- Anyways I'm all for voting Bill Murray as his behavior yesterday was incredibly erratic. Which leads me to this post and my second vote: Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 11:20 supersoft wrote:
I am voting Chaosquo. I like cybercheeses case against him the most.
The case against BM is hard to understand for me right now. I propose that we lynch this macpo guy (even if town, he's no real loss/he won't be able to reestablish his innocence even if he's town) and Caosque.
I just read through BMs filter and I don't see it. This post seems extremely odd for a number of reasons, first of all he has this proposition that we lynch macpo, but refuses in putting his vote in for him. I cannot understand why a townie would come in with a post explaining his vote and feel it necessary to express his distaste for another player he wasn't voting for but oddly still supports lynching. Feels like he doesn't want to vote Macpo but at the same time wants to get in this last sliver of distrust so his intentions aren't questioned at the time. Secondly, he just latches on to another case when explaining his vote (keep in mind even cybercheese didn't feel strongly enough to vote for Chaosquo), this feels like a lazy cop-out for having to post an explanation. Finally he has this bit about the case against BM being hard to understand. I have this as the weakest point because it is buttressed if BM flips red, but I thought all along the BM case was incredibly clear cut. He made some odd claims and had a lot of erratic behavior, which not surprisingly drew a lot of suspicion. Even if you don't agree with it I don't think it at any time has been difficult to grasp why people want him lynched. Couple that with this suspicious chain of posts following L's candidacy for Mayor and I feel strongly enough to make this my second vote today. "Maybe I'll vote for L" "BM most likely town!!" bs #mafiatalk ##Vote Bill Murray and ##Vote supersoft guys!! Ferrr liquidia!
First off, you choose one post of his to use as your gateway to analysis.
He up until the point of this post had said he didn't like the sandro / ggq vote (points in his favour), tries to get L to talk to him (apparently he wouldnt?),
We then have the post you analyzed which I don't think is inherently scummy as he said he preferred CC's analysis on chaosquo over that of the macpo stuff. Whatever, you can vote on those reason, its a null tell of town or mafia.
Given the fact that we don't know the alignment of chaosquo we can't say he made a bad choice of lynch target either.
The link you provided I don't think is anything insanely out of the ordinary as I believe if ss was mafia and since we know L was the gf, mafia would have made a better run at getting him into office. L would be far more destructive there than BM IMO. Factor in that SS has already stated that he mason'd L this may clear him.
Main read however of him comes from
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716¤tpage=52#1030
this in my mind is an extremely town oriented post and would be extremely hard to create as red. Given his playstyle this game I just don't see him a viable lynch. He hasn't given enough to solidly pin as mafia and using a lynch on a player with very little scumlike posting seems a waste at this point.
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On January 20 2012 12:09 Toadesstern wrote:
hey there KJ: Vote sandro, he's 2nd atm and may be your pass to life another day!
I am not going to cast a vote against another player until I have an adequate reason to, even if it's to save myself.
Note that even if I do end up being mislynched my motives are clear. I will force BC out into the open. He based his candidacy on accountability and I want us all to see the hypocrisy of his words.
If I am such a good lynch candidate then why have I been so pro-Town?
I look forward to BC's next move.
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On January 20 2012 12:09 Toadesstern wrote:
hey there KJ: Vote sandro, he's 2nd atm and may be your pass to life another day!
incorrect, KJ is currently at 6, sandro at 4, fw miscounted the votes
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kingjames01 I have a question for you.
Who do you think is mafia other than p4NDemik?
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On January 20 2012 12:27 Scamp wrote:
kingjames01 I have a question for you.
Who do you think is mafia other than p4NDemik?
Well let's wait until BC has a chance to do his 'analysis' and then we can all decide together. Until then I am not going to respond anymore. Too many posts and we're all going to lose focus. If I am going to get mislynched I want to draw out a few of my suspects. I hope the mafia are wishing that they had killed me already.
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On January 20 2012 12:25 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 12:09 Toadesstern wrote:
hey there KJ: Vote sandro, he's 2nd atm and may be your pass to life another day! I am not going to cast a vote against another player until I have an adequate reason to, even if it's to save myself. [...]
That's totally lookin town but is not town at all. I'm saying this looks like a mafia who tries to look townie.
If I had the option to either die myself ( = 100% townie dead) or kill someone else, even if I only think he's in 1 out of 100 situations mafia I'd gladly take that chance. 100/100 chance to kill a townie vs "I guess he's town but I'm not sure" is a clear one for me.
Why is it not for you? I think because you want to look townie 
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United States13896 Posts
Thanks for not really commenting on the strongest part of my analysis and just focusing on the less relevant parts of it while not analyzing the true questionable behavior that lies within.
BC what kind of town agrees yeah we should lynch macpo but I'm gonna vote for this guy that not even Cyber_Cheese is voting for anymore? This is a guy who previously outlined these very meticulous plans he has for defining people in groups, and determining mafia via process of elimination. It's an irresponsible vote that doesn't fit his defined style of play.
Moreover he never even comments about CC's original case before this vote. If he wants to go along with the crowd and vote Macpo why is he bent on still voting for Chaosquo? He never makes that clear.
Again, I propose that the reason there is this divide in his logic regarding the last vote is that he was getting lazy in maintaining his facade of being town. He needed to vote somewhere but he didn't want to bus Macpo along with the rest of his mafia buddies. This is mafia hedging their bets, trying to slip one by us. Don't let him off the hook guys.
##Vote supersoft
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On January 20 2012 11:27 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 10:56 Jitsu wrote:
One thing that bugs me. It seems like you are purposefully trying to take as much credit as possible to buy town-cred by saying all you're reads we're accurate.
I like you. And I like that that's exactly what I thought. Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 11:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
also, 8 confirmed people running around in pms is ridiculous -_- Did you expect less? It was bound to happen as it was initially going to be a PM game. Given BM's target claim, are you still wanting to lynch him, everyone? It's not like he's 100% confirmed scum. Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 10:48 Bill Murray wrote:
I've got to vote kingjames, even if I have a townslip from him;
I KNOW I'm a mad hatter, he could be a townie
sandroba needs rope really badly
My one bomb is on Protactinium, so when I'm lynched, I guess he's coming with me
My Night 1 was jailing Lanaia, and then I was going to fake that I "derped" on the next 2 nights
Why else would I jailkeep N1? It was a bad idea in retrospect, but I thought I would either die N1 if BC was mafia, or I would have until BrownBear and Kitaman were alive.
Cwave masoned me yesterday
Jitsu masoned me yesterday
one of BC or OpZ are probably mafia
GG guys I'm dead in an hour if you all don't unvote and there goes the sheriff Why him? Why not on sandro? Did Cwave even talk to you? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=232648If he did, that's actually going to really piss me off as he's said next to nothing in thread.
Yes, he talked to me, and I passed him the BG list before I even did to Jitsu
Jitsu was really pushy for it
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Bill you fuck
If you didn't go all GG on everyone, you'd realize that you have another 24 hours still
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On January 20 2012 11:20 Jackal58 wrote:
Hey BM - Did you tell jitsu who the body guards were??????
Yes. He towntold to me in PMs eventually.
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On January 20 2012 12:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Bill you fuck
If you didn't go all GG on everyone, you'd realize that you have another 24 hours still
well i outted what could help the town, and im going to catch up tonight
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