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On January 20 2012 21:48 risk.nuke wrote:We have plenty of good targets. I'm going to analyse a few players today. Example rgtSchwors, Kingjames and Slardar. For now Bill Murray is the one obvious choice. He is just desperate to survive another day I don't buy his MH claim. It's too impossibly stupid to be true. And there is much bullshit in his posts. Toad gained some early townpoints with me which is why I don't want to lynch him today, + Show Spoiler + I'd prefer not to post the post but I will if requested. . On the other hand I don't buy his vet claim and he has never been correct with alot of reads before which makes me suspicious of him. I'm leaning not lynching him but not by much,
So is outing the body guards to Masons when there are known scum Masons in the game. Unless you are scum and know who your masons are. Then out them to gain town cred to town masons. Up to this point I have not been in favor of a BM lynch based upon his erratic behavior. His behavior is always erratic. But I can't resolve outing bodyguards with town behavior.
That's not erratic that's traitorous.
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The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.
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On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.
If on the off chance BM flips town I'd have no problem hanging you.
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On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.
I didn't ask for them and he just gave them. I've looked on mafiawiki's to see if it's ever EVER a good idea to announce the BG's. It's never unless one of the bg's is going all lol-anti-town. At the time that he gave them, it wasn't the case.
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If BM has disclosed the identities of the bodyguards to you please don't disseminate that info any farther.
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On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.
Wait, you specifically asked him to? If so, can you prove all logs between you two?
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well, redact the bg names just in case tho
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On January 20 2012 21:48 risk.nuke wrote:We have plenty of good targets. I'm going to analyse a few players today. Example rgtSchwors, Kingjames and Slardar. For now Bill Murray is the one obvious choice. He is just desperate to survive another day I don't buy his MH claim. It's too impossibly stupid to be true. And there is much bullshit in his posts. Toad gained some early townpoints with me which is why I don't want to lynch him today, + Show Spoiler + I'd prefer not to post the post but I will if requested. . On the other hand I don't buy his vet claim and he has never been correct with alot of reads before which makes me suspicious of him. I'm leaning not lynching him but not by much,
quick question: Why don't you buy my vet claim? I wasn't even sure if mafia shot me because frankly I saw no reason to shoot me with so many people thinking I'm suspicious. Maybe to make wbg look suspicious but I srsly doubt that with so many vets around something like that would have been an issue at all.
So all I could think of is either a townie-vig who was convinced by what wbg said, but in that case someone else (other than VE) should have claimed another hit. That did not happen.
If that's not case I guess mafia aimed for 2 safe hits. Just take out a couple of waynies to reduce the number of townies. Quite ironically that they instantly run into two VETs (yeah still think VE is a vet) :p
I mean, do you really think a medic would save me or VE? I doubt it and actually that is a problem for my opinion on VE.
The guy claimed joat right? Has he ever called a shot? I can't remember and neither can I remember a roleblock claim. That means mafia thought he's a townie who's trying to get shot as well (like I thought). But why would they shoot VE if they tried to get a couple of safe hits? Did they think he's a VT and did not think of a VET?
This is massivly wifom at it's best but something's not adding up here. Neither the joat makes sense to me, nor the VT or something else that involves him being medic'ed, so the only thing left is a vet which just doesn't make sense for mafia 
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Oh I think I get what risk.nuke is thinking.
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Let me explain something to the Town:
BloodyC0bbler is a good mafia player. BloodyC0bbler's mafia play isn't restricted to playing from the shadows. He is not afraid to be active in the game.
But he is patient. He doesn't jump on every opportunity to wreak havoc.
The reason why he's so good at being bad is not because he is smarter than the average mafia player. It is because he is so careful about being caught in a trap which makes him such a good mafia player.
BloodyC0bbler only engages people when he thinks that he can draw someone into an argument.
We can't check his alignment nor can we verify his role because he is Mayor. The power of having the weight of 3 votes will become more powerful as the game progresses.
It is abundantly clear that his choices made in the first Day were chaos-inducing but is that enough to conclusively state that BC is mafia?
When it became clear that I was going to be the next mislynch target, I switched tacks and decided that if I'm going out, then I'm going to use my last Day alive to draw BC out into the open.
I want him to take a real stand on a very simple analysis. When I don't flip red tonight, I don't want him to be able to say, "oops! Well, I guess I was wrong. kingjames01 was really hard to read."
However, that is exactly what BC is attempting to do.
I asked him to do one thing.
On January 20 2012 11:53 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 20 2012 11:33 kingjames01 wrote:
I am almost starting to feel bad for you BC. You're like that pathetic little kid that always wants to be heard. You're saying all the same things but you're missing one key fact. IF you really believed me to be mafia, you should be attacking my posts. Am I wrong about p4NDemik? Why don't you use your mafia logic and discuss that?
What are you so afraid of?
I DARE YOU TO TAKE A STAND ON p4NDemik. bad mafia or bad town. That's not a stand. You are attempting to equivocate. Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Regardless, Your posts attacked him for the same general points you were analyzed for.
That's a dismissive lie. If you ACTUALLY care or at least want to MAKE A SHOW OF IT, then read my analysis on p4NDemik. Compare and contrast my intent with his. Compare and contrast the choices we make. TAKE A STAND. Let's see who you really are this game.
He agreed to do so.
On January 20 2012 12:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
King james I will do what you ask
But then he didn't. In his entire mess of a post, he did not do what he agreed to do. BC skirted around the issue so that he did not have to commit to any position. He avoids making a conclusive judgement on p4NDemik by focussing on me entirely.
On January 20 2012 14:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Now this is an awesome post. See you went for a player that protrac missed. Then began to analyze him to death. Normally I would be like, awesome, good job. However. YOU DID THIS ONLY AFTER PRESSURED.
He starts off with invalidating p4n because nisani's argument was not convincing. He does not quote this argument, he does not explain why it was bad. He then throws suspicion down because he believes p4n is establishing future votes. Instead he FoS protrac for his sudden change in how he has acted in thread. He makes a leap to interpret a line of thinking that was not stated. Futhermore he says p4n never interacts with protrac after that. Guess what, Protrac called kingjames out and rather than responding, kingjames promptly ignored the analysis as if it didnt exist.
He then continues to analyze posts saying that p4n threw in an "excuse to vote" on a day that kingjames did not vote period. His reason is actually not a bad reason yet is "scumlike"
He attacks p4n for not scumhunting which is something til this point that he himself is guilty of.
He then brings up a ton of posts that say near nothing. Except one thing. The posts are questions that are trying to get answers for suspect behaviour. He then chooses a line of posts that are asking a question that were not answered that was weird as hell. He then asks someone who called him out to explain why rather than sitting back making general statements. Guess what, thats townlike behaviour.
King james analyzed someone who is clearly playing in the towns interests while obviously not doing so himself. This is a post thats designed to target what would be viewed as a weaker player and making a case where there was none. Near all the points made against p4n were actually trash and it was only designed to bury decent posts and create a scene to distract the town.
He then continues to tunnel p4n. Telling people to only vote for him if they want to analyze him. Meanwhile telling people if they want to vote for information that they can kill p4n. This is a complete contradiction in that if they want to kill p4n they should be analyzing him as well if they have to analyze kingjames to lynch kingjames.
He is NOT clear about his position on p4NDemik. Does he ACTUALLY believe that p4NDemik "is clearly playing in the towns interests"?
WHERE IS HIS ACCOUNTABILITY NOW?
BloodyC0bbler: I DARE YOU TO TAKE A STAND ON p4NDemik. Why is that so hard for you to do? You make a few posts here and there. Surely, with your ability to play the game, you can make a real analysis on p4NDemik. That should be child's play for you. Stop using excuses to focus on me. Take some time and analyse p4NDemik.
You agreed to do it. You still haven't produced any results.
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kingjames you're coming off like a raving lunatic the way you are pushing for information. this I DARE YOU nonsense is doing you no good. none at all.
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Friday night approaches. Voting BM due to crazyposting, giving up multiple times and BG disclosure.
##Vote: Bill Murray
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On January 20 2012 04:32 kingjames01 wrote:
I have one last thing up my sleeve but I will see how the day goes before I use it.
well KJ, now is the time.
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On January 20 2012 23:19 kingjames01 wrote:Let me explain something to the Town: BloodyC0bbler is a good mafia player. BloodyC0bbler's mafia play isn't restricted to playing from the shadows. He is not afraid to be active in the game. But he is patient. He doesn't jump on every opportunity to wreak havoc. The reason why he's so good at being bad is not because he is smarter than the average mafia player. It is because he is so careful about being caught in a trap which makes him such a good mafia player. BloodyC0bbler only engages people when he thinks that he can draw someone into an argument. We can't check his alignment nor can we verify his role because he is Mayor. The power of having the weight of 3 votes will become more powerful as the game progresses. It is abundantly clear that his choices made in the first Day were chaos-inducing but is that enough to conclusively state that BC is mafia? When it became clear that I was going to be the next mislynch target, I switched tacks and decided that if I'm going out, then I'm going to use my last Day alive to draw BC out into the open. I want him to take a real stand on a very simple analysis. When I don't flip red tonight, I don't want him to be able to say, "oops! Well, I guess I was wrong. kingjames01 was really hard to read." However, that is exactly what BC is attempting to do. I asked him to do one thing. Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 11:53 kingjames01 wrote:On January 20 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 20 2012 11:33 kingjames01 wrote:
I am almost starting to feel bad for you BC. You're like that pathetic little kid that always wants to be heard. You're saying all the same things but you're missing one key fact. IF you really believed me to be mafia, you should be attacking my posts. Am I wrong about p4NDemik? Why don't you use your mafia logic and discuss that?
What are you so afraid of?
I DARE YOU TO TAKE A STAND ON p4NDemik. bad mafia or bad town. That's not a stand. You are attempting to equivocate. On January 20 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Regardless, Your posts attacked him for the same general points you were analyzed for.
That's a dismissive lie. If you ACTUALLY care or at least want to MAKE A SHOW OF IT, then read my analysis on p4NDemik. Compare and contrast my intent with his. Compare and contrast the choices we make. TAKE A STAND. Let's see who you really are this game. He agreed to do so. Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 12:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
King james I will do what you ask But then he didn't. In his entire mess of a post, he did not do what he agreed to do. BC skirted around the issue so that he did not have to commit to any position. He avoids making a conclusive judgement on p4NDemik by focussing on me entirely. Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 14:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Now this is an awesome post. See you went for a player that protrac missed. Then began to analyze him to death. Normally I would be like, awesome, good job. However. YOU DID THIS ONLY AFTER PRESSURED.
He starts off with invalidating p4n because nisani's argument was not convincing. He does not quote this argument, he does not explain why it was bad. He then throws suspicion down because he believes p4n is establishing future votes. Instead he FoS protrac for his sudden change in how he has acted in thread. He makes a leap to interpret a line of thinking that was not stated. Futhermore he says p4n never interacts with protrac after that. Guess what, Protrac called kingjames out and rather than responding, kingjames promptly ignored the analysis as if it didnt exist.
He then continues to analyze posts saying that p4n threw in an "excuse to vote" on a day that kingjames did not vote period. His reason is actually not a bad reason yet is "scumlike"
He attacks p4n for not scumhunting which is something til this point that he himself is guilty of.
He then brings up a ton of posts that say near nothing. Except one thing. The posts are questions that are trying to get answers for suspect behaviour. He then chooses a line of posts that are asking a question that were not answered that was weird as hell. He then asks someone who called him out to explain why rather than sitting back making general statements. Guess what, thats townlike behaviour.
King james analyzed someone who is clearly playing in the towns interests while obviously not doing so himself. This is a post thats designed to target what would be viewed as a weaker player and making a case where there was none. Near all the points made against p4n were actually trash and it was only designed to bury decent posts and create a scene to distract the town.
He then continues to tunnel p4n. Telling people to only vote for him if they want to analyze him. Meanwhile telling people if they want to vote for information that they can kill p4n. This is a complete contradiction in that if they want to kill p4n they should be analyzing him as well if they have to analyze kingjames to lynch kingjames. He is NOT clear about his position on p4NDemik. Does he ACTUALLY believe that p4NDemik "is clearly playing in the towns interests"? WHERE IS HIS ACCOUNTABILITY NOW? BloodyC0bbler: I DARE YOU TO TAKE A STAND ON p4NDemik. Why is that so hard for you to do? You make a few posts here and there. Surely, with your ability to play the game, you can make a real analysis on p4NDemik. That should be child's play for you. Stop using excuses to focus on me. Take some time and analyse p4NDemik. You agreed to do it. You still haven't produced any results.
I debunked your analysis of him in the analysis I did of you. Your analysis of him imo was shoddy and feels so insanely forced to save your own hide. The man is also playing far better than you are.
The fact of the matter is, you are attempting to draw ME into an argument. You have been analyzed and are up for lynch. You have done pretty well 0 contribution until you were up as a lynch candidate (aside from calling me red day 1 to attempt to stop me from getting elected). You then analyzed someone and put words in their mouth. If you were honestly town you would continue to analyze other players in the event to share information. You know what you're doing instead? trying to keep the light on you and away from everyone else. Burying information that may appear, or letting mafia hide in general.
If you wanted to get away from a lynch you know how to perform to do so, you are not doing that. Go to the gallows in silence, we have more pressing matters to deal with.
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nice vote without explaining it glurio. Get the hell in here and explain your vote.
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KJ, if you still have something you want to tell us go ahead. You're not going to make it without anythign super special from my point of view.
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On January 21 2012 01:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
nice vote without explaining it glurio. Get the hell in here and explain your vote.
Mhhh, i got you down as fishy with the whole Kingjames01 dance but you have a point.
What the hell Glurio, a grandtotal of 2 posts with ZERO content -.-? And with zero, i mean zero.
You posted on
January 15 2012 02:56
January 16 2012 23:27
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=68375
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Someone willing to share some thoughts about BC, protact and Bum?
I'm having a really hard time to judge them and I'm fine trusting them as long as they keep delivering mafias but I'm kind of scared I might be wrong here (I guess we'll see about that after the lynch).
Protact looks to be town to me, but somthing bothers me, same with BC. Bum is just a complete null for me: Thought he's town d1. thought he's fishy d1.5, and I'm basicly getting different vibes all the time.
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On January 20 2012 21:26 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 18:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I feel like double lynching tomorrow would be good.
We get a lot of new information with the lynches and nk's, and the sooner we kill mafia, the sooner their kp is lowered.
##Vote Double Lynch Reading is a good skill toi have
So is politeness. Why did you feel the need to answer a question asked of someone else?
The point is, however, using today as an example, does he really think we're going to be in a good position tomorrow for a double lynch?
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On January 21 2012 01:45 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 01:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
nice vote without explaining it glurio. Get the hell in here and explain your vote. Mhhh, i got you down as fishy with the whole Kingjames01 dance but you have a point. What the hell Glurio, a grandtotal of 2 posts with ZERO content -.-? And with zero, i mean zero. You posted on January 15 2012 02:56
January 16 2012 23:27http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=68375
care to go into detail how I am fishy for it? Do you not like the analysis done of him? if so why not?
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