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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2012 18:44 GMT
#2901
On January 21 2012 03:14 Toadesstern wrote:
and actually I don't like the fact that BC's going after him at all given that he's a replacement.


your point? If you are replacing into a game, especially a large game you should realize the level of work you will have to do. Excusing someones behaviour for the first day they are in the game is ok, however, when you make posts like

On January 16 2012 23:27 glurio wrote:
Sorry for being so inactive, it took me till today to read up on everything. It was much more than I expected.
I will be more active from now on and participate.



then your next post is

On January 21 2012 02:04 glurio wrote:
I voted how I did because I agree with p4ndemiks analysis of BM, he lately really started behaving weird. Also he is most likely to get lynched since he got the most votes. If hes a mad hatter, like he claimed and only placed one bomb so far, that would suck but it's a risk we should take.

kingjames i find really confusing he does nothing but accuse different people with weak at best arguments for being mafia. I have to admit i'm not completely convinced he's mafia, but without him we could maybe spend more ressources towards finding some more mafia and less random pointing.
I'm still not completely set on the kingjames vote, so if someone can convince me of someone better i will consider it.

I'm going out tonight, so i might not be able to change my vote in time. Will try my best though.

Also i'm claiming Mason.


Did anyone notice the difference in pages?

page 88 then next on page 145.

He still voted last game day, and said he had caught up. Moment you make a statement like "i have read everything and will be active from now on" then don't have a single post in near 60 pages? and that post was made as you were called out for sheeping without justifying yourself?

He's being called out because hes done nothing to say hes town. In fact his actions say otherwise. Promises to be active then never doing so. Why would I give him a break? Him being a mason just means that a potential red in the masons has been found. His sketchy behaviour is why hes being looked at.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 20 2012 18:54 GMT
#2902
On January 21 2012 03:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 03:14 Toadesstern wrote:
and actually I don't like the fact that BC's going after him at all given that he's a replacement.


your point? If you are replacing into a game, especially a large game you should realize the level of work you will have to do. Excusing someones behaviour for the first day they are in the game is ok, however, when you make posts like

Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 23:27 glurio wrote:
Sorry for being so inactive, it took me till today to read up on everything. It was much more than I expected.
I will be more active from now on and participate.



then your next post is

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 02:04 glurio wrote:
I voted how I did because I agree with p4ndemiks analysis of BM, he lately really started behaving weird. Also he is most likely to get lynched since he got the most votes. If hes a mad hatter, like he claimed and only placed one bomb so far, that would suck but it's a risk we should take.

kingjames i find really confusing he does nothing but accuse different people with weak at best arguments for being mafia. I have to admit i'm not completely convinced he's mafia, but without him we could maybe spend more ressources towards finding some more mafia and less random pointing.
I'm still not completely set on the kingjames vote, so if someone can convince me of someone better i will consider it.

I'm going out tonight, so i might not be able to change my vote in time. Will try my best though.

Also i'm claiming Mason.


Did anyone notice the difference in pages?

page 88 then next on page 145.

He still voted last game day, and said he had caught up. Moment you make a statement like "i have read everything and will be active from now on" then don't have a single post in near 60 pages? and that post was made as you were called out for sheeping without justifying yourself?

He's being called out because hes done nothing to say hes town. In fact his actions say otherwise. Promises to be active then never doing so. Why would I give him a break? Him being a mason just means that a potential red in the masons has been found. His sketchy behaviour is why hes being looked at.


the problem I have with that one is that there's a bunch of people like this and you pick out of all those guys the guy who replaced in?
Sure it's not looking good but why this guy? Just because he popped in? Why are you not asking other people as well? You know, I made a big case on sandroba (a vet) which is basicly about him refusing to play pro-town and not only about lurking.
There's people like munk-E, Slardar, Kenpachi (I guess he's something special) and someother people who posted like 1 page of filter in this game.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 18:56 GMT
#2903
Fair enough BC and your suspicions are somewhat justified but you cannot deny that you reap what you sow. To me he very much embodies what a new townie put in his situation would do when confronted by the atmosphere you created earlier in the thread. This doesn't make him town, but there is plenty of reason to not leap to conclusions here.

glurio you need to fill the gaps here and prove your innocence through actions moving forward. You are being watched now and you need to make steps towards finding mafia going forward. If you are intimidated and feel your role is useless you still have the option to press for your questions to be answered in this thread. BC what was the irrelevant question that he asked you? This is a good time to start getting some information about both his and your intentions.
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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 20 2012 18:57 GMT
#2904
Keep in mind I just replaced in and my level of activity reflects multi hours per day devoted to catching up. This is not an easy game to replace into (pace wise).
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 20 2012 18:57 GMT
#2905
On January 20 2012 23:19 kingjames01 wrote:
I asked him to do one thing.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 11:53 kingjames01 wrote:
On January 20 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 20 2012 11:33 kingjames01 wrote:

I am almost starting to feel bad for you BC. You're like that pathetic little kid that always wants to be heard. You're saying all the same things but you're missing one key fact. IF you really believed me to be mafia, you should be attacking my posts. Am I wrong about p4NDemik? Why don't you use your mafia logic and discuss that?

What are you so afraid of?

I DARE YOU TO TAKE A STAND ON p4NDemik.


bad mafia or bad town.


That's not a stand. You are attempting to equivocate.

On January 20 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Regardless, Your posts attacked him for the same general points you were analyzed for.


That's a dismissive lie. If you ACTUALLY care or at least want to MAKE A SHOW OF IT, then read my analysis on p4NDemik. Compare and contrast my intent with his. Compare and contrast the choices we make.

TAKE A STAND. Let's see who you really are this game.


He agreed to do so.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 12:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
King james I will do what you ask


But then he didn't. In his entire mess of a post, he did not do what he agreed to do. BC skirted around the issue so that he did not have to commit to any position. He avoids making a conclusive judgement on p4NDemik by focussing on me entirely.

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 01:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I debunked your analysis of him in the analysis I did of you. Your analysis of him imo was shoddy and feels so insanely forced to save your own hide. The man is also playing far better than you are.

The fact of the matter is, you are attempting to draw ME into an argument. You have been analyzed and are up for lynch. You have done pretty well 0 contribution until you were up as a lynch candidate (aside from calling me red day 1 to attempt to stop me from getting elected). You then analyzed someone and put words in their mouth. If you were honestly town you would continue to analyze other players in the event to share information. You know what you're doing instead? trying to keep the light on you and away from everyone else. Burying information that may appear, or letting mafia hide in general.

If you wanted to get away from a lynch you know how to perform to do so, you are not doing that. Go to the gallows in silence, we have more pressing matters to deal with.


He is NOT clear about his position on p4NDemik. Does he ACTUALLY believe that p4NDemik "is clearly playing in the towns interests"?

WHERE IS HIS ACCOUNTABILITY NOW?


BloodyC0bbler: I DARE YOU TO TAKE A STAND ON p4NDemik. Why is that so hard for you to do? You make a few posts here and there. Surely, with your ability to play the game, you can make a real analysis on p4NDemik. That should be child's play for you. Stop using excuses to focus on me. Take some time and analyse p4NDemik.

You agreed to do it. You still haven't produced any results.


Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2012 18:57 GMT
#2906
On January 21 2012 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 03:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 21 2012 03:14 Toadesstern wrote:
and actually I don't like the fact that BC's going after him at all given that he's a replacement.


your point? If you are replacing into a game, especially a large game you should realize the level of work you will have to do. Excusing someones behaviour for the first day they are in the game is ok, however, when you make posts like

On January 16 2012 23:27 glurio wrote:
Sorry for being so inactive, it took me till today to read up on everything. It was much more than I expected.
I will be more active from now on and participate.



then your next post is

On January 21 2012 02:04 glurio wrote:
I voted how I did because I agree with p4ndemiks analysis of BM, he lately really started behaving weird. Also he is most likely to get lynched since he got the most votes. If hes a mad hatter, like he claimed and only placed one bomb so far, that would suck but it's a risk we should take.

kingjames i find really confusing he does nothing but accuse different people with weak at best arguments for being mafia. I have to admit i'm not completely convinced he's mafia, but without him we could maybe spend more ressources towards finding some more mafia and less random pointing.
I'm still not completely set on the kingjames vote, so if someone can convince me of someone better i will consider it.

I'm going out tonight, so i might not be able to change my vote in time. Will try my best though.

Also i'm claiming Mason.


Did anyone notice the difference in pages?

page 88 then next on page 145.

He still voted last game day, and said he had caught up. Moment you make a statement like "i have read everything and will be active from now on" then don't have a single post in near 60 pages? and that post was made as you were called out for sheeping without justifying yourself?

He's being called out because hes done nothing to say hes town. In fact his actions say otherwise. Promises to be active then never doing so. Why would I give him a break? Him being a mason just means that a potential red in the masons has been found. His sketchy behaviour is why hes being looked at.


the problem I have with that one is that there's a bunch of people like this and you pick out of all those guys the guy who replaced in?
Sure it's not looking good but why this guy? Just because he popped in? Why are you not asking other people as well? You know, I made a big case on sandroba (a vet) which is basicly about him refusing to play pro-town and not only about lurking.
There's people like munk-E, Slardar, Kenpachi (I guess he's something special) and someother people who posted like 1 page of filter in this game.


Read my filter. Do you recall this post.

On January 19 2012 06:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
going to be heading off to work shortly so I shall throw this up now.

I mason'd Protract for this cycle and have been communicating off and on for the day.

All medics, foolishness and protract are your responsibility tonight to defend.

As things stand now, ggq/jackal are the two I intend on pushing come the lynch, again barring any new information. All masons playing in pm land but not posting in thread be warned, you will be put up for analysis / lynch if you don't get your act together.



He was warned. He has failed to contribute, he attempted to skate by with a vote on 2 bandwagons without saying why. Why would I not call him out.

As for asking others? Just because I haven't outed them yet doesn't mean I havent been watching their posts.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 18:58 GMT
#2907
Toad he was also reluctant to get behind my case on supersoft which could be a MAJOR tell going forward if supersoft flips red. Despite having a 4 page filter supersoft did THE exact same thing as glurio and BC passed over my case like it was nothing. These are things to note people.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2012 18:59 GMT
#2908
On January 21 2012 03:56 p4NDemik wrote:
Fair enough BC and your suspicions are somewhat justified but you cannot deny that you reap what you sow. To me he very much embodies what a new townie put in his situation would do when confronted by the atmosphere you created earlier in the thread. This doesn't make him town, but there is plenty of reason to not leap to conclusions here.

glurio you need to fill the gaps here and prove your innocence through actions moving forward. You are being watched now and you need to make steps towards finding mafia going forward. If you are intimidated and feel your role is useless you still have the option to press for your questions to be answered in this thread. BC what was the irrelevant question that he asked you? This is a good time to start getting some information about both his and your intentions.


He asked me what he posted as the log of his to me. As he pm'd me after i was pushing for a macpo or jackal as lynch choices its fairly obvious what my stance is, ie asking me "Hey so what do you think is our best course of action right now?" is the most useless thing you can ask me. It was clearly stated in thread already.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 19:02 GMT
#2909
OK people here is where we make a stand. We have caught both of our elected roles acting very fishy today. BM is a clear lynch and you have all already moved forward on this point as shown by your votes.

BC's recent actions are now clearly contradictory and we need to do everything we can to garnish more information about his intentions ASAP. I am going to reemphasize that my case against supersoft is no less credible than that against kingjames. What now makes my case more valuable is the information is gives us on BC which is going to be absolutely vital moving forward into the next few days of this game.

I want to urge everyone to ##vote Bill Murray and v##vote supersoft this is an opportunity that can't be passed up. BM has practically dug his own grave and now BC finds himself in a major pickle.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 20 2012 19:07 GMT
#2910
I won't defend myseld against no case. (because I can't)

When my masoned buddy comes online I'll present my lynchcandidates.
But I want to discuss my reads with that guy first.
Sorry. It's not my fault that he need so much time (sleep?)
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2012 19:10 GMT
#2911
On January 21 2012 04:02 p4NDemik wrote:
OK people here is where we make a stand. We have caught both of our elected roles acting very fishy today. BM is a clear lynch and you have all already moved forward on this point as shown by your votes.

BC's recent actions are now clearly contradictory and we need to do everything we can to garnish more information about his intentions ASAP. I am going to reemphasize that my case against supersoft is no less credible than that against kingjames. What now makes my case more valuable is the information is gives us on BC which is going to be absolutely vital moving forward into the next few days of this game.

I want to urge everyone to ##vote Bill Murray and v##vote supersoft this is an opportunity that can't be passed up. BM has practically dug his own grave and now BC finds himself in a major pickle.


How am I contradictary? Your case on SS is weak. I am calling glurio out yet I have not said "lets all off this player". If you notice I said the lynch on supersoft was not viable at this point based on the information provided. I have not said lynch glurio. How am I at all being contradictory?

As for your case against supersoft being as good as kingjames, I would strongly disagree. You did your initial analysis off 1 post while ignoring the rest. How is that stronger than a case against kingjames who has been analyzed by 3 players, and in one analysis he was shown to be misrepresenting himself on what he claimed to be doing, and was out and out doing dickall to help the town?

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 20 2012 19:12 GMT
#2912
I'm sorry but I don't think defending yourself against what you think are baseless claims is that difficult supersoft. If you think they are truly baseless you'd show some vigor to your attitude, some pep. Right now you just read like an already defeated player.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 20 2012 19:14 GMT
#2913
uh I am not? I am rather unimpressed. You're the only one voting for me...
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 20 2012 19:14 GMT
#2914
WBG is scum. I'ma vote for WBG. He's been pushing for Toad for days, and aside from "I don't like him" he hasn't given any good reason why he needs to die. And now that Toad has taken a hit, WBG disappears. It could be a coincidence, and it might not be. I think WBG is scum who can't find an 'easy' target to attack.

##Vote: WBG
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 20 2012 19:16 GMT
#2915
On January 21 2012 04:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
WBG is scum. I'ma vote for WBG. He's been pushing for Toad for days, and aside from "I don't like him" he hasn't given any good reason why he needs to die. And now that Toad has taken a hit, WBG disappears. It could be a coincidence, and it might not be. I think WBG is scum who can't find an 'easy' target to attack.

##Vote: WBG


I kind of agree. Did wbg post the part when we talked about me masoning L?
I lost that part... wait a second...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 20 2012 19:19 GMT
#2916
On January 21 2012 04:16 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 04:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
WBG is scum. I'ma vote for WBG. He's been pushing for Toad for days, and aside from "I don't like him" he hasn't given any good reason why he needs to die. And now that Toad has taken a hit, WBG disappears. It could be a coincidence, and it might not be. I think WBG is scum who can't find an 'easy' target to attack.

##Vote: WBG


I kind of agree. Did wbg post the part when we talked about me masoning L?
I lost that part... wait a second...


but I am afraid of wbgs play. He's really hard to read for me. Last game I played against him when he was scum. I'd have rather lynched myself than him because I fell for his play. On the other hand, when he was town, it was my fault that he was lynched. One game before that first mentioned game... You know what I mean.

This game he's not so much focussed on me believing him..
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 20 2012 19:20 GMT
#2917
On January 21 2012 04:19 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 04:16 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
WBG is scum. I'ma vote for WBG. He's been pushing for Toad for days, and aside from "I don't like him" he hasn't given any good reason why he needs to die. And now that Toad has taken a hit, WBG disappears. It could be a coincidence, and it might not be. I think WBG is scum who can't find an 'easy' target to attack.

##Vote: WBG


I kind of agree. Did wbg post the part when we talked about me masoning L?
I lost that part... wait a second...


but I am afraid of wbgs play. He's really hard to read for me. Last game I played against him when he was scum. I'd have rather lynched myself than him because I fell for his play. On the other hand, when he was town, it was my fault that he was lynched. One game before that first mentioned game... You know what I mean.

This game he's not so much focussed on me believing him..


Moreover he softly accused me recently and posted, that I might be scum. Well. Would he do that, if he was scum? I don't know.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
January 20 2012 19:20 GMT
#2918
The fact that there is no opposition to the BM lynch, but that strangely nobody wants to vote for kingjames suggests to me that kingjames indeed is mafia, and that BM could be innocent (although if he truly is a hatter I don't trust his bomb placement lol).

Considering voting sandroba instead, gotta read thread though.
And so, we find the Sublime.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 20 2012 19:24 GMT
#2919
Vote WBG instead Protact. I can assure you, the read will be more entertaining.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 20 2012 19:25 GMT
#2920
On January 21 2012 04:20 Protactinium wrote:
The fact that there is no opposition to the BM lynch, but that strangely nobody wants to vote for kingjames suggests to me that kingjames indeed is mafia, and that BM could be innocent (although if he truly is a hatter I don't trust his bomb placement lol).

Considering voting sandroba instead, gotta read thread though.


There you are. Consider if you will the following: Why is BloodyC0bbler trying so hard to avoid taking a stand on p4NDemik?

In fact, at the moment, they are attempting to distance themselves from each other.

It is one thing to invalidate someone's analysis, it is another ENTIRELY to refuse to analyse.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
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