EPTAlso protact you do realize that unvoting BM to vote sandroba right now is only going to get KJ another day to live and will lynch sandroba instead? Not that I have anything particular against lynching sandroba but right now BM has to many votes to get both KJ and sandroba lynched.
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Also protact you do realize that unvoting BM to vote sandroba right now is only going to get KJ another day to live and will lynch sandroba instead? Not that I have anything particular against lynching sandroba but right now BM has to many votes to get both KJ and sandroba lynched. | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
I find your reply to actually be a bit scummy. A town flip of kingjames at this would more than likely sudgest that he was bad town. His case on you is just stupidly executed and he is ignoring so much that is going on while pushing it. The fact that you are preparing your defensive tone for a town flip on a player that is playing like KJ.... That is scummy. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On January 21 2012 04:50 p4NDemik wrote: God why do I feel there is a gigantic disconnect in logic between me and the supposedly brilliant players that have gotten us to this point in the game. The fact they keep going to their inner circle of veterans to bolster themselves and not ever speaking to my actual points is killing me. If this means what I think it means it could be incredible but I need town to go with my logic please guys! I feel like I'm putting good logic out and being met with strict rhetoric at every end. Look at the one post I quoted and explain to me why a mafia would make that post; what motivation he would have for doing such a thing. There's disconnect between us as well. I don't think sandroba is a good lynch but BC and Protact like it so I'm going with it. I think Blahz0r is obvious mafia but I'm the only person in the game. We don't agree on everything either but our direction is the same, and that's what is important for a large game like this. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 21 2012 01:50 Scamp wrote: So is politeness. Why did you feel the need to answer a question asked of someone else? The point is, however, using today as an example, does he really think we're going to be in a good position tomorrow for a double lynch? I'm confused, why do you think we will be in a bad position? | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
This is what kills me. You and BC have gone back to that post and you don't address his current behavior at all. He is rolling over and dying here, if only someone would put the noose in my hand with votes we could lynch him and he still would remain apathetic to the end, he still wouldn't care about yesterday's lynch, and he still wouldn't care enough to defend himself. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I'd love to see sandroba get lynched but I'd also love to get some information about BC and protact at this point. I'm fine with both. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 21 2012 02:46 Jitsu wrote: Use logic, bro's. Yes, I asked him. There was reasoning behind it. Saying you want to hang me before even hearing any part of the idea is pretty stupid, I feel. Did anyone else think "Mafia Mason" at this post? So why did you not provide the reasoning yet exactly? If it was good reasoning, you would have shared it by now. | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
I know I'm up against a tough road here. BC isn't going to give me his vote on supersoft that is for sure at this point, please don't let some kind of mafia old boys club obscure your thinking and disregard my case. This goes to the rest of the town. Trust what you think is the best choice at this point in the game please don't sheep behind these vets just because you haven't seen me play before. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On January 21 2012 04:55 p4NDemik wrote: Foolishness this is like the 3rd time that one of you guys have gone to that post but it is almost a week old at this point and rapidly losing it's value. I've said it before it looks to me like an intial facade to establish a mafia's town nature early on to cover up for his clearly lazy behavior that he has made recently. This is what kills me. You and BC have gone back to that post and you don't address his current behavior at all. He is rolling over and dying here, if only someone would put the noose in my hand with votes we could lynch him and he still would remain apathetic to the end, he still wouldn't care about yesterday's lynch, and he still wouldn't care enough to defend himself. Day 1 is always more revealing than any other day. Outside of that I don't really know what to say other than we have much better targets to be gunning for. If he's still doing this sort of thing in the next day or two, then yeah I'll definitely be rethinking everything you've said. But to say that supersoft is a better lynch over players like kingjames, evantrees, Opz, Blazh0r, meapak is not something that BC, myself, or Protact are going to agree with for a long while. It goes back to the whole "town direction" thing as well. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On January 21 2012 04:41 Protactinium wrote: No time to think about it, but supersoft is CURRENTLY nonsensical. Lets lynch sandroba first. I'll look over it later when I have time although I do recall supersoft being quite useless this game. The thing is, there's no reason to deviate from my list right now. We'll take care of the rest later. Lets just consolidate our votes. This day seems to have produced some interesting information. But right now is the time to lynch, not the time to insist on getting information. I'll sort through all this later if I'm not dead by that time. I am taking your judgement on this. The only reason I am ok with lynching sandroba is because of a comparison of this game and two others he has been in. First off everyone look at sandros filter from this game. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=21688 Now compare it to a game he was town which was Mafia XLVII http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=21688 and a game he was mafia which is pick your power interesting http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&user=21688 The level he has contributed this game is near non existent and aside from being slightly active day 1 he has fucked the dog completely. Much like he did in pick your power interesting. As such I am opting to lynch him over BM. This is because the general read on BM is hard as hell. BM is always hard to read and could very well be a hatter. With that in mind, I don't want to lose protrac and will opt to off sandroba instead as to keep one of the core analyzer alive longer. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On January 21 2012 05:12 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I don't remember reading any Chaosquo posts in quite a while now.... Yes, I wanted to kill him the other day, but he's on the track to get modkilled now. | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
I stand firm that my logic is solid and that it can carry weight, and most importantly that a supersoft lynch looks to get a red as well as a sure tell on our mayor which is valuable. Join me town. ##vote Bill Murray and ##vote supersoft | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
I want you to think about the following scenario: You join a game as mason and you're town. You replaced someone and the shit is completely out of control because the thread has like 100 pages. You're replacement, because you actually want to play. What do you do day1: a) Hide b) Mason somebody and talk about what's going on. If you're scum, what do you do day1? a) Hide and talk to your scumbuddys what to do b) mason a townie? c) pretend having masoned a teammate and being in danger to get forced to prove that with some logs. ___________________________________ glurio looks really bad. (I'd like to paint him in like pink because I am only 70% sure that he's scum.) | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 21 2012 04:50 p4NDemik wrote: God why do I feel there is a gigantic disconnect in logic between me and the supposedly brilliant players that have gotten us to this point in the game. The fact they keep going to their inner circle of veterans to bolster themselves and not ever speaking to my actual points is killing me. If this means what I think it means it could be incredible but I need town to go with my logic please guys! I feel like I'm putting good logic out and being met with strict rhetoric at every end. Solution: Stop relying on their circle, and rap with the other active people in the thread. I've been a little busy today, and as I've previously said, I'm pretty happy with where my votes are. That said, if anybody wants me to take a stance on their case specifically, I'll make time to discuss the persons in question. Also, DOUBLE LYNCH! Look how many people seem like valid lynches right now. Carefully consider how much more information we gain from the double lynch today, and the NK's. If we cut mafia KP fast, we lose less townies. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
I leaned town on him because of his comment on L. However his discussion with jayjay was strange, because i expect townsandro not to OMGUS blindly. + I think jayjay is town right now. (Only if wbg is town, too, because we figured that one out) but that doesnt really matter since sandroba is capable to bus. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On January 21 2012 05:15 p4NDemik wrote: I'm going to have to agree to disagree with your view of the game in that respect Proact, Foolish, and BC. I stand firm that my logic is solid and that it can carry weight, and most importantly that a supersoft lynch looks to get a red as well as a sure tell on our mayor which is valuable. Join me town. ##vote Bill Murray and ##vote supersoft I can respect that but at least vote for kingjames instead of Bill Murray lol | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
I could not get any traction for my case without you guys, and now BC paraphrases my exact points in regard to sandroba, and protac comes in like it was his idea.  just... you know ... Its just a bit ironic. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On January 21 2012 05:21 hiro protagonist wrote: Hey BC, Protac, remember when I made this great post detailing why Sandro was scum? BC called me an idiot for wanting to lynch sand, and protac thought my case was weak at best? I could not get any traction for my case without you guys, and now BC paraphrases my exact points in regard to sandroba, and protac comes in like it was his idea. just... you know ... Its just a bit ironic. his day 1 play had me convinced he was town. I had to read his filter from this game and compare it to a known scum him and a known town -_- His scum habit seems to be "solidify a townie read" day 1 then do near nothing to avoid being offed. | ||
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