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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On August 10 2011 13:27 Curu wrote: syllo though you really need to come in and play to the potential I know you can. Don't make me look bad for sticking my neck out for you like this. chaos's defense was terrible, mostly for these two points: I already demonstrated that based on the actions I'm literally the least likely person remaining to be scum. Unfortunately we've mostly some not-so-bright individuals remaining. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
Fimmta Nóttin! Nei, hver andskotinn! Þið drápuð chaos13 án dóms og laga! Hvers konar samfélagi lifum við í þegar að meirihluti getur kosið að hengja saklausa borgarbúa, með ekkert annað að vopni en sannfæringu sína og hræðslu. En það er að minnsta kosti nokkuð fyndið að chaos13 skuli hanga, því að hann var ekki með eins hreina samvisku og aðrir góðir menn sem þið hafið hengt Það gleður mig að tilkynna ykkur við krufningu kom í ljós að chaos13 var hluti af alþjóðlegum glæpasamktökum sem hafa engin önnur markmið en að murka lífið úr saklausum borgurum. Þið þekkið framhaldið, sendið mér og Kurumi alla þá leiki sem þið hyggist leika í nótt. Sorry, forgot to include the role chaos13 the mafia goon has been lynched | ||
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
You did not kill chaos13 without trial and legal! What kind of society we live in where the majority can vote to suspend innocent citizens with no other weapon than to their own conscience and fear. But there is at least somewhat funny chaos13 be hung, because he was not as clean conscience and other good men that you have attached I am happy to inform you of an autopsy revealed that chaos13 was part of an international crime identifying acquisitions that have no other goal than to murka lives of innocent civilians. You know the sequel, please send me Kurumi all the games you intend to play tonight. So he was Mafia? Awesome ;D | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
I can't edit kurumi's posts. | ||
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On August 10 2011 06:29 DropBear wrote: Lol I think of youngminii as more of a funnel-web than a kangaroo. I like to think of myself as a Koala. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On August 10 2011 17:32 Lucidity wrote: Basically everyone in that Vet circle has the same defence as you? But there is definitely one scum in there. So . . . No, I'm the only person in the game, Mig aside, who knew he was a vet before the N1 hit took place | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On August 10 2011 17:55 Barundar wrote: Most of the arguments that apply to you apply to BC as well syllo. Anyways gonna go chill for a bit. Some do, the most important one doesn't, and I didn't spend whole day attempting to deflect the lynch from mafia. Unless I've completely overestimated BC, his town play can't be this awful. He has been against two of the mafia lynches so far and pretty much concluded that chaos13 can't be mafia because he has been lurking and not defending himself or something. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On August 10 2011 18:00 syllogism wrote: Some do, the most important one doesn't, and I didn't spend whole day attempting to deflect the lynch from mafia. Unless I've completely overestimated BC, his town play can't be this awful. He has been against two of the mafia lynches so far and pretty much concluded that chaos13 can't be mafia because he has been lurking and not defending himself or something. I actually figured he was unlikely red for the same reasons ym/redff flipped town, but hey everyone screwed up. As for saying I've been against two mafia lynches, I voted for a confirmed mafia 2 days running. So I was actually for a mafia lynch 2 days running. However, until you and I both flip the point is moot. If you flip red then I voted for a red 3 lynches in a row like everyone else. regardless due to his flip I know I shall be the first to die, my role will flip and you will shortly follow. No biggy. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
Three attempts to deflect the wagon off Varpulis day 1. First on Drazerk, then on Kenpachi, finally on JeeJee. From ON's IRC log: [23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> -_- mig was making me kinda fishy with his pushing [23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> of the damn [23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> majority lynch [23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> i hate majority [23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> so hard [23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> i just dont like [23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> when hosts [23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> push [23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> majority [23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> it gave scum huge [23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> and i mean [23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> huge bonus He knows majority lynch is awful for Town but said not.a.peep against it. He didn't try to argue it at all, he didn't try to dissuade anyone, he didn't try to save us all from our own cockiness. I invite you all to take a look at PTP2 where BC argued for 20 pages about not using a more or less confirmed DT's check because he thought that it was better for Town to rely on analysis. This is a much bigger issue than that but he made 0 effort to try to stop it. BC claims Vet. He's also the most experienced and one of the more reputed players in this game. Yet his play does not fit with that; he's been behind the scenes, silent, mostly just watching. Highly central figure with Vet power...I'd expect him to be a lot more active and visible, contributing significantly and visibly to Town. This also gave him an excuse for why he was not shot when he should be a high priority Mafia target. At the beginning of the game, syllogism, sandroba, BC, Mig, and I discussed the power roles in this game. Together, we came to the conclusion that there were no Medics. I don't know if any of you formed the same opinion, but as a group we were almost certain there were no Medics. Almost everyone was calling for the Medic on Mig or ON. Mig shouldn't have been a hit since Mafia would almost have to believe the Medic would be there, yet he still was. Mig actually used this as a "test" for me because he found me scummy when I asked him in Skype how he'd feel about switching from Varpulis to JeeJee (looked like last minute scum saving, but both flipped red so it's moot). He knew that I was one of the only players in the game that was almost sure there were no Medics so he thought if he took a hit that would point at me. Same point here applies to BC. On August 04 2011 15:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: med should protect kenpachi (never thought i'd say this) / drh / mig / curu Not a huge tell but in case there was a Medic, suggesting Kenpachi and me as protects when we were both awful protects at the time. Finally this awful wagon against syllogism. I'm beyond impressed he actually managed to convince almost half the Town syllogism was scum based on lurker behavior and WIFOM, when it was pretty clear syllo had almost bulletproof Town cred. It came at a time when chaos was the sure wagon and almost worked to get syllo lynched instead. Yes he proposed 1-1 but consider we had 3 mislynches; syllo flipping Town would be one mislynch, then he would likely convince us to hit DrH, 2 gone if Town, then finally himself. That brings us to mylo already just for clearing the Vets. Maybe he could have even convinced us to hit Lucidity before him, which would have left us in lylo. The random shots I don't see as a sign of an inexperienced Mafia team (anyone with common sense could see better shots) but more methodical. They could explain why the experienced players weren't being shot (BC himself included) and could be used to introduce misleading trails. BC was the one who knew of the Sevyrn-Trotske connection, he also first pointed out the TAA-Trotske connection. The one redeeming factor I see is that JeeJee had a Medic claim when BC was one of the group that was sure there were no Medics, but there's so much WIFOM there I wouldn't give much weight to it. If BC's plan was to bus JeeJee from the start, which seems to fit with JeeJee's general "I don't want to play I got Mafia 3 times in a row I just want to play as Town," it could make more sense. BC also pushed heavily in Skype that only one of him and JeeJee could possibly be scum, which also lends credit to the bus theory. Still, mostly WIFOM here. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
doing nothing. | ||
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