TL Mafia XLIII - Page 3

[12:56] <BloodyC0bbler> hes playing like his retarded medic action
[12:56] <BloodyC0bbler> in AA
[12:56] <Lucidity> in AA he was active in IRC at least
[12:56] <Lucidity> so far he's been avoiding questions
[12:56] <Lucidity> on IRC
[12:56] <Lucidity> and completely afk in thread
[12:56] <BloodyC0bbler> everyone avoids questions
[12:57] <BloodyC0bbler> bartundar has
[12:57] <BloodyC0bbler> ym was
[12:57] <BloodyC0bbler> red was
[12:57] <BloodyC0bbler> chaos is
[12:57] <BloodyC0bbler> fuck drH lu rked irc all yesterday
[12:57] <BloodyC0bbler> and never responded once
[12:57] <Lucidity> so you think drazerk is more town?
[12:57] <BloodyC0bbler> going "this person is scummy for lurking" isnt enough
[12:57] <BloodyC0bbler> i think hes disinterested town
[12:57] <BloodyC0bbler> could I be wrong? yes
[12:58] <BloodyC0bbler> analysis is extremely hard
[12:58] <BloodyC0bbler> when people jus toutright
[12:58] <BloodyC0bbler> refuse to talk
[12:58] <Lucidity> which is why policy lynches should become standard
[12:58] <Lucidity> until it's gone from TL
[12:58] <Lucidity> -_-
[12:58] <Lucidity> Kenpachi is also "confirmed town" apparently
[12:58] <Lucidity> he has 0 posts
[12:59] <Lucidity> in lylo we're fucked
[12:59] <Lucidity> nothing to analyse
[12:59] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
[12:59] <BloodyC0bbler> =\
[12:59] <BloodyC0bbler> and then we have people
[12:59] <BloodyC0bbler> idling in here
[12:59] <Lucidity> btw
[12:59] <Lucidity> why do you think Kenpachi is town?
[12:59] <BloodyC0bbler> not talking
[12:59] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[13:00] <BloodyC0bbler> roba seemed it
[13:00] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[13:00] <Lucidity> I'm always on IRC, but often afk
[13:00] <BloodyC0bbler> its the only reason hes viewed as town
[13:00] <Lucidity> don't think that means much
[13:00] <Lucidity> but drazerk will be here
[13:00] <Lucidity> and actively avoid q's
[13:00] <BloodyC0bbler> lucidity
[13:00] <BloodyC0bbler> drH was on most of yesterday
[13:00] <BloodyC0bbler> and never responded
[13:00] <BloodyC0bbler> he would leave
[13:00] <BloodyC0bbler> rejoin
[13:00] <BloodyC0bbler> and lurk again
[13:00] <Lucidity> were the leaves timeouts?
[13:00] <Lucidity> because it could just be autorejoin ;p
[13:01] <BloodyC0bbler> nah
[13:01] <BloodyC0bbler> also, one reason I view draz as town
[13:01] <Curu> BC
[13:01] <BloodyC0bbler> is because night 1
[13:01] <Curu> you said lurking is not a reason to call someomne scum
[13:01] <Curu> but isnt that the major basis of your case against syllo
[13:01] <BloodyC0bbler> no
[13:01] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo has been "active"
[13:01] <BloodyC0bbler> outside thread
[13:02] <BloodyC0bbler> but hes never pushed anyone
[13:02] <BloodyC0bbler> or stood a strong ground
[13:02] <BloodyC0bbler> on anything
[13:02] <BloodyC0bbler> jeejee was lynched because mig viewed me as more town
[13:02] <BloodyC0bbler> than jeejee
[13:02] <BloodyC0bbler> but had huge doubts on me
[13:03] <ghrur> Okay, so we have another day, good
[13:03] <Lucidity> sigh
[13:03] <Lucidity> active in PMs
[13:03] <Lucidity> worst
[13:03] <BloodyC0bbler> like
[13:03] <Lucidity> I wish TL had a constant stream of Minis
[13:03] <Lucidity> with closed or semi-open setup
[13:03] <BloodyC0bbler> jeejee was defending me and drH
[13:03] <Lucidity> F11
[13:03] <BloodyC0bbler> via pm's to mig
[13:03] <Lucidity> and no PMs
[13:03] <Lucidity> i'd only play those t_T
[13:03] <@Palmar> yo bc
[13:04] <BloodyC0bbler> ?
[13:04] <@Palmar> doing my 2000 post thing
[13:04] <ON|FF6> What did you guys think
[13:04] <ON|FF6> of
[13:04] <ON|FF6> Syllos in thread posts
[13:04] <ON|FF6> last night
[13:04] <@Palmar> I need to characterize ace/ver/qatol
[13:04] <ON|FF6> They seemed really generic to me
[13:04] <@Palmar> I don't know these guys well enough
[13:04] <BloodyC0bbler> they were talking policy
[13:04] <Lucidity> How'd you go from
[13:04] <Lucidity> Given the level of inactivity I'm for offing kenpachi for generally being useless or RL unless someone throws up compelling analysis on either target.
[13:04] <ON|FF6> They talked policy
[13:04] <Lucidity> to
[13:04] <Lucidity> Kenpachi is town?
[13:05] <Lucidity> @BC
[13:05] <ON|FF6> for the record
[13:05] <ghrur> Yeah, they were generalities
[13:05] <ON|FF6> i was talking with Ghrur in PMs
[13:05] <ON|FF6> and i thought Kenpachi should be looked at again
[13:05] <BloodyC0bbler> roba basically looked town lucidity
[13:05] <ghrur> yup, confirmed
[13:05] <ON|FF6> we have so many people
[13:05] <BloodyC0bbler> its all thats kept him off
[13:05] <ON|FF6> flying under the radar
[13:05] <BloodyC0bbler> radars
[13:05] <Lucidity> but
[13:06] <Lucidity> He replaced roba
[13:06] <ghrur> and the fact that he claimed RB
[13:06] <Lucidity> You then thought he was scummy
[13:06] <Lucidity> and now you think he's town
[13:06] <Lucidity> so the logical progression doesn't make sense
[13:06] <ON|FF6> He got RBed
[13:06] <BloodyC0bbler> what?
[13:06] <ON|FF6> N1
[13:06] <ON|FF6> and i dont think
[13:06] <ON|FF6> BC ever said he was scum
[13:06] <BloodyC0bbler> kenpachi is lurking
[13:06] <Lucidity> Let BC defend himself t_t
[13:06] <BloodyC0bbler> its hard to analyze
[13:06] <ON|FF6> w/e
[13:06] <BloodyC0bbler> lurkers
[13:06] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[13:06] <ON|FF6> im just saying lucid
[13:06] <ON|FF6> you need to get your facts straight
[13:06] <syllogism> oh i didn't realize his vote on varpulis was a "pressure vote", that's funny
[13:06] <ON|FF6> before accusing at this point
[13:06] <ON|FF6> oh
[13:06] <ON|FF6> Kenpachis was?
[13:06] <Lucidity> erm
[13:06] <ON|FF6> really?
[13:06] <Lucidity> BC said "LYNCH KENPACHI"
[13:07] <ON|FF6> ...
[13:07] <BloodyC0bbler> when he lied?
[13:07] <BloodyC0bbler> in thread
[13:07] <BloodyC0bbler> lawl
[13:07] <ON|FF6> Oh
[13:07] <ON|FF6> that
[13:07] <ON|FF6> uh
[13:07] <ON|FF6> its called
[13:07] <ON|FF6> a joke
[13:07] <Lucidity> and afterwards
[13:07] <ON|FF6> because kenpachi
[13:07] <Lucidity> you said he was lurking
[13:07] <ON|FF6> is a liablitily half the time
[13:07] <Lucidity> and sueless
[13:07] <Lucidity> useless *
[13:07] <Lucidity> t_t
[13:07] <ON|FF6> for the record
[13:07] <BloodyC0bbler> kenpachi
[13:07] <ghrur> Kenpachi isn't a liability until it gets to lylo
[13:07] <BloodyC0bbler> tends to be useless
[13:07] <BloodyC0bbler> like
[13:07] <BloodyC0bbler> ym
[13:07] <ON|FF6> if we were to lynch the entire town on uselessness
[13:07] <Lucidity> I don't disagree
[13:07] <ON|FF6> we would be doomed
[13:08] <ON|FF6> thats the fact of life
[13:08] <BloodyC0bbler> like, redff
[13:08] <ON|FF6> at the moment
[13:08] <Lucidity> But you went from being pro-lynch to pro-town on him
[13:08] <BloodyC0bbler> was useless
[13:08] <BloodyC0bbler> but shot
[13:08] <Lucidity> with nothing changing
[13:08] <Lucidity> because your reasoning that he's town is that sandroba looked town
[13:08] <ghrur> redFF ws useless but at least he SEEMED town
[13:08] <Lucidity> so that doesn't add up imo
[13:08] <BloodyC0bbler> and my reasoning for wanting to off kenpachi was his "im green guys"
[13:08] <ghrur> The worse are Lucid/Sevryn/Chaos/TAA who all look like possible scum >_>
[13:08] <BloodyC0bbler> which he claims
[13:08] <BloodyC0bbler> every game
[13:09] <Lucidity> your first reply to that looked like a joke
[13:09] <Lucidity> but then you made a 2nd post BC
[13:09] <Lucidity> Where you advocated his lynch again
[13:09] <BloodyC0bbler> i prefer policy shots but no dts yo
[13:09] <BloodyC0bbler> besides, no one in their right mind
[13:09] <BloodyC0bbler> would rb kenpachi
[13:09] <ON|FF6> yeah
[13:09] <ON|FF6> that seemed kinda off
[13:09] <ON|FF6> like their shots
[13:10] <ON|FF6> all seemed off
[13:10] <ON|FF6> ._.
[13:10] <ON|FF6> I actually think the scumteam is kinda newby
[13:10] <ON|FF6> and dont know some of the older players enough
[13:10] <Lucidity> The RB was probably due to sandroba
[13:10] <ON|FF6> to know kenpachis meta and stuff
[13:10] <Curu> i ti\hink trying to read into the night actions is mostly wifom
[13:10] <Lucidity> they thought he was vig
[13:10] <ON|FF6> it is
[13:10] <Curu> none of it makes much sense
[13:10] <ON|FF6> but its something
[13:10] <Lucidity> but ye
[13:10] <ON|FF6> well
[13:10] <ON|FF6> we could discuss
[13:10] <ON|FF6> who to lynch today
[13:10] <ON|FF6> i know curu wants chaos gone
[13:10] <ON|FF6> I wouldnt mind offing him
[13:11] <ghrur> no disagreement here
[13:11] <BloodyC0bbler> chaos seems off
[13:11] <BloodyC0bbler> seems fine
[13:11] <ghrur> bc spreading doubt like a boss
[13:11] <Lucidity> BC is scum
[13:11] <Lucidity> ON
[13:11] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[13:12] <Lucidity> was your case vs me in thread serious btw?
[13:12] <BloodyC0bbler> BC would prefer
[13:12] <ON|FF6> No
[13:12] <ON|FF6> I was drunk
[13:12] <BloodyC0bbler> taa/syllo
[13:12] <Lucidity> i figured
[13:12] <ON|FF6> and mad
[13:12] <Lucidity> rofl
[13:12] <ON|FF6> lol
[13:12] <ON|FF6> I was really mad last night
[13:12] <ghrur> drunk?
[13:12] <ON|FF6> i had a few drinks
[13:12] <ON|FF6> more like buzzed
[13:12] <ON|FF6> my relatives are over
[13:12] <ON|FF6> so yeah
[13:13] <ON|FF6> I dont know
[13:13] <ON|FF6> what to thiiiiink
[13:13] <ON|FF6> everyone is scummmmmy
[13:13] <ON|FF6> except like
[13:13] <ON|FF6> 2 people
[13:13] <ON|FF6> maybe 3
[13:13] <ON|FF6> or 4
[13:13] <ON|FF6> fuck
[13:13] <Lucidity> I'm the only non-scummy one
[13:13] <Lucidity> imo
[13:13] <BloodyC0bbler> lawl
[13:13] <ON|FF6> You me
[13:13] <Curu> lol.
[13:13] <Lucidity> ;p
[13:13] <ON|FF6> maybe ghrur
[13:13] <ON|FF6> maybe curu
[13:13] <ON|FF6> BC is a coin-flip lynch
[13:14] <ON|FF6> not a good one
[13:14] <BloodyC0bbler> BC was willing to be lynched
[13:14] <BloodyC0bbler> if syllo flipped town
[13:14] <ON|FF6> Everyone is willing to be lynched this game
[13:14] <BloodyC0bbler> *shrugs*
[13:14] <ON|FF6> why the fuck
[13:14] <Curu> and town should follow through with that
[13:14] <Curu> if syllo flips town
[13:14] <ON|FF6> do people want to be mislynched
[13:14] <ON|FF6> ffs
[13:14] <syllogism> bc do you really think i intentionally wasted a shot n1, knowing mig was a vet
[13:14] <ON|FF6> its like
[13:14] <ON|FF6> lolsorry gonna waste time
[13:14] <ON|FF6> for fucks sake
[13:14] <syllogism> and convinced the scum team
[13:14] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo
[13:14] <ON|FF6> play to fucking win
[13:14] <syllogism> with jeeejee
[13:14] <syllogism> to do that
[13:14] <Lucidity> I wanted to be, because I was sure munk-e or YM were
[13:14] <BloodyC0bbler> its all wifom
[13:14] <Lucidity> scum
[13:14] <syllogism> no it's not lol
[13:14] <Lucidity> and after that you can lynch all vets to victory
[13:14] <BloodyC0bbler> why?
[13:14] <Lucidity> no matter the order
[13:14] <BloodyC0bbler> I can tell you
[13:15] <BloodyC0bbler> if I was red
[13:15] <BloodyC0bbler> and had a vet claim
[13:15] <BloodyC0bbler> is shoot him
[13:15] <syllogism> because it's awful play, scum may do that but it's so bad that it's extremely unlikely
[13:15] <BloodyC0bbler> id*
[13:15] <BloodyC0bbler> just as if I knew of the fake med plan
[13:15] <syllogism> do you thinkt he discussion with jeejee went like
[13:15] <BloodyC0bbler> id fire into it
[13:15] <syllogism> yo mig is a vet, lets shoot him
[13:15] <syllogism> so i get town cred
[13:15] <BloodyC0bbler> dude, you haven't pushed any lynch targets
[13:15] <syllogism> and jeejee is like 2ok"
[13:15] <BloodyC0bbler> or to my knowledge
[13:15] <Lucidity> syllogism
[13:15] <BloodyC0bbler> talked a ton about analysis and reads on anyone
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> yet were confirmed
[13:16] <Lucidity> If someone claimed vet to me as scum
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> before anyone else was
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> by mig
[13:16] <Lucidity> I'd think it's another blue trying not to get hit
[13:16] <Lucidity> ?_?
[13:16] <Curu> what
[13:16] <Curu> you just told me yesterday that if you were mafia
[13:16] <Curu> you wouldnt touch that fakeclaim mess
[13:16] <Curu> now youre saying youd fire into it?
[13:16] <syllogism> Lucidity: well it's me and mig, we know each other
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> if i knew of it curu
[13:16] <syllogism> not some random claim
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> id fire into it
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> if i didnt
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> id not touch it
[13:16] <syllogism> and scum has 2 roleblockers
[13:16] <Curu> you did know of it though
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> if i was red and mig went sup
[13:16] <Curu> you were part of it
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> yes
[13:16] <Curu> one of the fake medics
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> but I'd have shot me
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> not drH
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> if i was red
[13:16] <BloodyC0bbler> guy who takes the hit
[13:17] <BloodyC0bbler> looks better
[13:17] <BloodyC0bbler> than the roleblocked on
[13:17] <syllogism> now that is wifom
[13:17] <Curu> you also said you wouldnt shoot into it
[13:17] <Curu> if you were red
[13:17] <ghrur> Curu, stop
[13:17] <BloodyC0bbler> IF i didnt know
[13:17] <BloodyC0bbler> of the plan
[13:17] <Curu> oh ok nevermind
[13:17] <Lucidity> BC is being very inconsistent
[13:17] <Curu> yeah
[13:17] <BloodyC0bbler> ffs
[13:17] <ghrur> you're misusing his words lol
[13:17] <Lucidity> lol
[13:17] <Curu> no, bad reading
[13:17] <Curu> on my part
[13:17] <Curu> he said if he wasnt in the circle
[13:17] <Lucidity> BC didn't know of the plan night 1 though
[13:17] <BloodyC0bbler> the fake med plan
[13:17] <BloodyC0bbler> wasn ttill night 2
[13:18] <BloodyC0bbler> so thats a moot point
[13:18] <BloodyC0bbler> mig talked about the fake med plan the moment jeejee claimed med
[13:18] <BloodyC0bbler> which was after he had 3 vet claims
[13:19] <Curu> a
[13:19] <Lucidity> k
[13:20] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[13:22] <Curu> b
[13:22] <BloodyC0bbler> the hell curu?
[13:22] <MrWiggles> c
[13:22] <Lucidity> he thinks he's timing out
[13:22] <Lucidity> erm
[13:22] <ghrur> nah, he's just checking his internet
[13:22] <ghrur> see if it still works
[13:22] <ghrur> btw, where did sevryn come from?
[13:23] <Lucidity> too many lurkers have screwed us
[13:23] <Lucidity> That's exactly what I said ghrur -.-
[13:23] <BloodyC0bbler> in what way?
[13:23] <Lucidity> we basically can't consider them for lynches
[13:23] <BloodyC0bbler> also
[13:23] <Lucidity> because we only have 3 left
[13:23] <BloodyC0bbler> rebooting my net
[13:23] <Lucidity> and we have more than 3 lurkers
[13:23] <BloodyC0bbler> because its laming out
[13:23] <Curu> sevyrn case
[13:23] <Curu> was because
[13:23] <Curu> sevyrn and trotske have the same ip
[13:23] <Curu> suggesting roommates or brothers
[13:23] <Lucidity> unless we get a RB and have vets alive
[13:23] <Curu> which somewhat explains the trotske shot
[13:24] <Curu> other than that its that hes totally useless
[13:24] <Lucidity> drazerk/kenpachi fit that criteria better
[13:25] <ghrur> they all fit
[13:25] <Curu> like look
[13:25] <Curu> sevyrns last post
[13:25] <Curu> is just scummy too
[13:25] <Lucidity> ye
[13:25] <Curu> but you cant tell if its bad player
[13:25] <Lucidity> that makes me suspect chaos less
[13:25] <Lucidity> lol
[13:25] <Curu> -.-
[13:25] <ghrur> >_>
[13:25] <Curu> or scum
[13:26] <ghrur> I'd rather we lynch chaos today, then syllo/bc/DrH
[13:27] <ghrur> but we have time now
[13:27] <Lucidity> I'm not for a vet lynch today
[13:27] <syllogism> if you think about the time line, i'm literally the worst lynch in the game, i don't see how you can't see it
[13:28] <Lucidity> our best chance is to have vets late game and scum without rb
[13:28] <Lucidity> I agree that you're the worst lynch of the vets
[13:28] <Lucidity> i'd go for BC>drH
[13:28] <Lucidity> but we need other candidates
[13:29] <BloodyC0bbler> ffs, going to shower
[13:33] <Curu> a
[13:33] <ghrur> so syllo, if you want to push someone else
[13:33] <ghrur> be my guest
[13:34] <ghrur> Just make a case and post it in the thread
[13:34] <ghrur> Otherwise, i'm all for trading you and BC 1:1
[13:35] <syllogism> Too much effort, go ahead, but let me point this out again
[13:35] <syllogism> No scum team, especially one with a good player like jeejee, would agree to waste a shot on mig the veteran on n1 when scum have 2 RBs, just to earn one of their lesser known players some town cred. The fact town had just lynched scum makes it even more unlikely.
[13:38] <alanismorisette> a
[13:40] == ghrur has changed nick to afk_ghrur
[13:49] <taa> what about this
[13:49] <taa> redFF is scum
[13:49] <syllogism> he is dead
[13:49] <syllogism> and flipped town
[13:49] <taa> he is?
[13:49] <taa> hmm
[13:50] <taa> I'd also like to apologize for my lack of activity. I've been really busy at work, and today was an especially long day.
[13:50] <taa> while not being pressured
[13:50] <taa> thats chaos
[13:51] * alanismorisette is dead
[13:51] <alanismorisette> but chaos has actually been redic busy latel
[13:51] <alanismorisette> y
[14:00] <Curu> too much effort
[14:00] <Curu> wtf
[14:00] <Curu> we already have one kenpachi syllo
[14:00] <Curu> >.>
[14:00] <taa> fuckballs
[14:00] <taa> who is scum
[14:00] <taa> chaos13 and sevryn
[14:01] <taa> are the biggest candidates
[14:01] <Curu> BC is convinced its syllo
[14:01] <Curu> to the point he said lynch them both
[14:03] <taa> hmm
[14:03] <taa> syllo voted every day for the lynch
[14:04] <Curu> i dont see syllo being scum
[14:05] <Curu> so if we were to 1-1 i'd prefer to BC -> syllo
[14:05] <Drazerk> Chaos - Luc - BC - severyn
[14:05] <Drazerk> one of those 4
[14:05] <Curu> but chaos
[14:05] <Curu> first and foremost
[14:06] <Lucidity> leave the Vets for now
[14:06] <taa> chaos and sev voted with jeejee day1
[14:06] <Drazerk> would prefer lucidity personally I just don't understand why scum attacked me over him
[14:06] <Drazerk> bar the fact I was an easy target
[14:06] <taa> every scum so far didnt vote draz day 1`
[14:06] <Lucidity> I don't understand why you have 3 posts all game
[14:06] <taa> bussed jeejee the next one
[14:06] <taa> then
[14:07] <taa> people
[14:07] <ON|FF6> i voted chaos
[14:07] <taa> barundar
[14:07] <ON|FF6> im afk
[14:08] <taa> BC
[14:08] <taa> chaos and sevryn
[14:08] <taa> voted along that pattern
[14:08] <taa> those majority lynches are so bad for the town in retrospect
[14:08] <Drazerk> aye
[14:08] <taa> since it would be insane
[14:08] <Curu> yeah we all got a bit cocky
[14:08] <taa> for them to all 3 vote on draz day 1
[14:08] <taa> i think
[14:08] <Drazerk> BC apposed my lynch
[14:09] <Drazerk> really early on
[14:09] <Drazerk> but then again
[14:09] <Drazerk> so did YM
[14:09] <taa> its chaos/sev and bc/barundar
[14:09] <Drazerk> right
[14:09] <Drazerk> I say we get chaos
[14:09] <Drazerk> then luc or BC
[14:10] <syllogism> barundar is pretty likely town
[14:10] <Drazerk> aye I have a town read on him
[14:10] <Drazerk> nothing he posts really strikes out for me
[14:12] <Kurumi> omg
[14:12] <Kurumi> Kradia is overpopulated
[14:12] <Drazerk> also curu do we have an awesome rivalry now?
[14:12] <Kurumi> and that fucking big bang update
[14:12] <Kurumi> I am so confused
[14:13] <Curu_> huh
[14:13] <Curu_> rivalry?
[14:13] <Drazerk> keep going after me ^^
[14:14] <Drazerk> what is the majority today?
[14:14] <Curu_> i went after everyone not posting or being active
[14:14] <Curu_> at all
[14:15] <Drazerk> I like how you attacked kerpachi forgetting he subbed in for sand
[14:15] <Curu_> so
[14:15] <Curu_> that doesnt mean an excuse to not do anything
[14:15] <Curu_> from day 1 onwards
[14:16] <Drazerk> its kenpachi
[14:16] <Drazerk> you have a better chance of me not going a game without fake role claiming
[14:17] <Drazerk> 3 more votes for hammer time
[14:18] <Curu_> dont hammer please
[14:18] <Curu_> give chaos time to come into the thread
[14:18] <Lucidity> we have 27 hours still
[14:18] <Lucidity> why hammer
[14:19] <Kurumi> damn
[14:19] <Kurumi> no more turbolynching?
[14:19] <Kurumi> aaah I was enjoying this
[14:19] <Drazerk> I didn't say TO hammer lol - i just said how many votes until
[14:19] <Drazerk> no
[14:19] <Lucidity> I'm sure you've had quite a laugh Kurumi -_-
[14:20] <Curu_> b
[14:20] <taa> can i presume the mafia plays well
[14:21] <taa> because if they did
[14:21] <taa> there is no way sevryn is scum
[14:21] <taa> he might be bad town
[14:21] <taa> but he voted drazerk last second
[14:21] <Drazerk> I pegged him as a bandwagon hero lol
[14:21] <Curu_> i dont know what to make of the playstyles
[14:21] <taa> why would he do that if varp was getting a guaranteed lynch?
[14:21] <Curu_> i was sure ym couldnt be town
[14:21] <taa> ym
[14:21] <taa> took bad
[14:21] <taa> to a whole new level
[14:21] <Curu_> what kind of town says with certainty that godfather will reveal green to dt checks
[14:22] <taa> lets not discuss him
[14:22] <Drazerk> ever lol
[14:23] <taa> bloody voted jee jee last second
[14:23] <taa> which is interesting
[14:23] <Curu_> one thing that bugs me about BC is he had 3 attempts to move off Varp
[14:23] <Curu_> Drazerk, then Kenpachi, then JeeJee
[14:23] <Curu_> granted last one was mafia
[14:23] <BloodyC0bbler> taa
[14:23] <BloodyC0bbler> your wrong about one thing
[14:23] <BloodyC0bbler> its you/chaos/sev
[14:23] <BloodyC0bbler> me/drh/syllo
[14:24] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[14:24] <Drazerk> BC just out right attacked Jeejee for lynching me
[14:24] <BloodyC0bbler> curu
[14:24] <taa> ?
[14:24] <BloodyC0bbler> compare how I argued against jeejee
[14:24] <BloodyC0bbler> and how i argued against draz and kenpachi
[14:24] <BloodyC0bbler> you see the difference no?
[14:24] <taa> i know i voted exactly like you
[14:25] <taa> wait
[14:25] <taa> what do you mean?
[14:25] <Drazerk> reread day 1
[14:25] <taa> [21:23] <BloodyC0bbler> its you/chaos/sev [21:23] <BloodyC0bbler> me/drh/syllo
[14:25] <taa> im on it
[14:25] <taa> why?
[14:25] <BloodyC0bbler> you and sev
[14:25] <BloodyC0bbler> link to troske
[14:25] <BloodyC0bbler> chaos for being scummy as hell
[14:25] <BloodyC0bbler> however
[14:25] <BloodyC0bbler> you also defended chaos
[14:25] <BloodyC0bbler> day 1
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> which links you to him
[14:26] <taa> i did?
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> yes
[14:26] <taa> the case against him
[14:26] <taa> was probably very shitty
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> or you accused him, and trostke
[14:26] <taa> what?
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> bashed your analysis
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> i forget which
[14:26] <taa> lol
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> one of you quoted the other
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> but you linked
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[14:26] <taa> thats day1?
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> drH/myself and syllo
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> all link together
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> via vet claim
[14:26] <BloodyC0bbler> and possible red in vets
[14:26] <taa> btw
[14:26] <taa> that medic plam
[14:27] <taa> n
[14:27] <taa> the hypocracy
[14:27] <taa> lol
[14:27] <BloodyC0bbler> talk to mig
[14:27] <BloodyC0bbler> about it
[14:27] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[14:27] <taa> wtf
[14:27] <taa> drH tried to lynch me
[14:27] <BloodyC0bbler> uh draz
[14:27] <taa> would it be likely
[14:27] <BloodyC0bbler> neither you nor bartundar
[14:27] <taa> all scum voted drazerk day1?
[14:27] <BloodyC0bbler> are active
[14:27] <BloodyC0bbler> on irc
[14:28] <Drazerk> I highly doubt all scum voted me
[14:28] <Drazerk> I never said I was active lol
[14:28] <taa> btw
[14:28] <Drazerk> bum has been on when I have though
[14:28] <taa> im fairly sure trotske was town
[14:28] <Drazerk> atleast from what I have seen
[14:28] <BloodyC0bbler> sevryn, taa. bartundar, kenpachi, drazerk
[14:28] <BloodyC0bbler> are all inactive
[14:28] <BloodyC0bbler> as hell
[14:29] <taa> ?
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> so is chaos -_-
[14:29] <taa> how do you mean
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> the last like 2 days
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> on irc
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> have been basically
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> ghrur
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> me
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> ON
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> curu
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> mig till death
[14:29] <taa> yeah
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> a dead redff
[14:29] <taa> i havent been to active
[14:29] <BloodyC0bbler> lucidity
[14:29] <taa> no point in discussing our auto lynch lol
[14:29] <Drazerk> I missed the whole Munk-E lynch lol
[14:30] <Curu_> going out
[14:30] <Drazerk> turbo lynches suck
[14:30] <BloodyC0bbler> however
[14:30] <Curu_> redFF tell chaos to get his ass in the thread and say something
[14:30] <taa> well
[14:30] <Curu_> bye
[14:30] <taa> they had to die
[14:30] <taa> asap
[14:30] <BloodyC0bbler> everyone
[14:30] <BloodyC0bbler> is voting again
[14:30] <BloodyC0bbler> without serious talking -_-
[14:30] <taa> so they did their purpose
[14:30] <BloodyC0bbler> well
[14:30] <BloodyC0bbler> munk-e did
[14:31] <BloodyC0bbler> to bring light to possible fake claimer in the vets
[14:31] <BloodyC0bbler> YM
[14:31] <BloodyC0bbler> didn't
[14:32] <syllogism> actually no, we lynched munk-e because we thought he was the fake claiemr
[14:32] <syllogism> unless you knew what he would flip
[14:34] <Drazerk> Btw kurumi how goes the master plan
[14:34] <Kurumi> meh
[14:35] <Kurumi> looks like I will have Nuzlocke Fire Red run
[14:35] <Kurumi> bastards
[14:35] <Kurumi> to hell with You
[14:35] <Drazerk> lol
[14:35] <Drazerk> hate fire red - Those island things annoyed me
[14:35] <Drazerk> as i never worked out wtf i was doing
[14:38] <taa> who was the guy that forgot to vote?
[14:38] <syllogism> chaos13
[14:38] <syllogism> that's not particularly meaningful though
[14:39] <taa> ok
[14:39] <taa> chaos and BC
[14:40] <taa> would make the most sense
[14:40] <alanismorisette> fire red was ok
[14:40] <taa> it cant be chaos and sevryn
[14:40] <taa> since
[14:40] <taa> they voted along with jeejee draz day1
[14:40] <taa> that would be batshit crazy
[14:40] <taa> why do i think bc is scum btw?
[14:41] <taa> actually
[14:41] <taa> syllogism
[14:41] <taa> makes much more sense
[14:41] <taa> derp
[14:42] <taa> syllo
[14:42] <BloodyC0bbler> syllogism, taa
[14:42] <taa> why so scummy? :>
[14:42] <BloodyC0bbler> answer me this
[14:42] <BloodyC0bbler> why do you think drH
[14:42] <taa> ok
[14:42] <BloodyC0bbler> is cleared?
[14:42] <taa> hmmm
[14:42] <taa> like
[14:42] <taa> for one thing
[14:42] <taa> it was 6-3
[14:42] <taa> then
[14:42] <taa> drH switched to the 6
[14:42] <syllogism> he was on the varpulis/jeejee wagons earlier and his behaviour has been towny
[14:42] <taa> from the 3
[14:42] <syllogism> like the rage quit
[14:42] <taa> syllogism
[14:43] <taa> you seem scum to me though
[14:43] <taa> like
[14:43] <taa> ive played with you before
[14:43] <syllogism> yes but you havent been following the game
[14:43] <taa> ??
[14:43] <BloodyC0bbler> the only reason I believe syllo is the red is it seems logically most sense for it to be him
[14:43] <syllogism> i knew about mig being vet n1, mig was shot and not roleblocked n1
[14:43] <syllogism> no, your case is completely illogical
[14:44] <BloodyC0bbler> the risks arent justified
[14:44] <BloodyC0bbler> in the med plan
[14:44] <BloodyC0bbler> by me or drH
[14:44] <syllogism> what risks
[14:44] <taa> there is no case yet
[14:44] <taa> like
[14:44] <taa> i can give my reasons
[14:44] <taa> but they are extremely poor atm
[14:44] <BloodyC0bbler> we are suspicious of eachother now
[14:44] <syllogism> you had no choice
[14:44] <taa> nah
[14:44] <syllogism> you claimed to mig
[14:44] <syllogism> he made the plan
[14:44] <BloodyC0bbler> uh syllo
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> if you are red
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> dont know of our med plan
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> and see someone out
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> two meds in thread?
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> day 2
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> would you honestly
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> shoot into that
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> all that does is confirm the townies -_-
[14:45] <syllogism> no it doesn't
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> instead you shoot around
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> where the meds are going to be
[14:45] <taa> I'm liking at least one out of jeejee/BC being red, especially jeejee, but not really have anything convincing to offer right now and lynching BC today would be pretty dumb anyway. Jeejee hasn't commented on much in and apparently out of thread, just soft defending varpulis today, and has been quite bland so far. Seems a bit too bold for day 1 scum play if varpulis flips red though.
[14:45] <syllogism> but yes
[14:45] <BloodyC0bbler> and kill freebies
[14:46] <syllogism> as scum I would have shot outside the circle
[14:46] <taa> "I'm liking at least one out of jeejee/BC being red, especially jeejee, but not really have anything convincing to offer right now and lynching BC today would be pretty dumb anyway. Jeejee hasn't commented on much in and apparently out of thread, just soft defending varpulis today, and has been quite bland so far. Seems a bit too bold for day 1 scum play if varpulis flips red though."
[14:46] <taa> thats a slip imo
[14:46] <taa> hes defending
[14:46] <alanismorisette> just out of interest
[14:46] <alanismorisette> why hast this become
[14:46] <taa> but if he flips red
[14:46] <taa> hes town
[14:46] <alanismorisette> like the tlmafia irc
[14:46] <alanismorisette> keep discusiion of ur game in here sure
[14:46] <alanismorisette> BUT DONT NEGLECT TLMAFIA IRC
[14:46] <alanismorisette> #TLMAFIA
[14:46] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[14:46] <Drazerk> lol
[14:46] <Hesmyrr> well, is XLIII ongoing?
[14:46] <alanismorisette> yes
[14:46] <BloodyC0bbler> no its over
[14:46] <Drazerk> actually forgot about TLmafia rofl
[14:46] <Hesmyrr> I am not even checking the games here recently :/
[14:46] <BloodyC0bbler> if you have the list
[14:46] <BloodyC0bbler> reveal it
[14:47] <BloodyC0bbler> :p
[14:47] <coagulation> tlmafia irc is gay
[14:47] <taa> rofl
[14:47] <alanismorisette> but these retards are talking about pokemon and whether doritos are better than tostitos
[14:47] <taa> wtf are tositos
[14:47] <BloodyC0bbler> .......
[14:47] <BloodyC0bbler> can you stop
[14:47] <BloodyC0bbler> trolling
[14:47] <BloodyC0bbler> our discussion redff
[14:47] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[14:47] <alanismorisette> D:
[14:47] <taa> ok
[14:47] <taa> i post it one more time
[14:47] <taa> "I'm liking at least one out of jeejee/BC being red, especially jeejee, but not really have anything convincing to offer right now and lynching BC today would be pretty dumb anyway. Jeejee hasn't commented on much in and apparently out of thread, just soft defending varpulis today, and has been quite bland so far. Seems a bit too bold for day 1 scum play if varpulis flips red though."
[14:47] <taa> read that quote plz
[14:47] <syllogism> hurr
[14:48] <alanismorisette> damn
[14:48] <alanismorisette> qatol/wiggles and kita are all beating me in fantasy gstl
[14:48] <Hesmyrr> wait, is that actual post?
[14:48] <alanismorisette> >.>
[14:48] <taa> that
[14:48] <taa> is a post
[14:48] <syllogism> who is Hesmyrr
[14:48] <taa> by syllo
[14:48] <taa> day 1
[14:48] <BloodyC0bbler> a TL mafia player
[14:48] <BloodyC0bbler> whos not in this game
[14:48] <taa> apparently
[14:49] <taa> both accusing
[14:49] <syllogism> oh ok
[14:49] <taa> and defending
[14:49] <taa> the GF
[14:49] <syllogism> taa: you are utterly retarded as usual
[14:49] <taa> lol
[14:49] <taa> care to explain?
[14:49] <syllogism> there's nothing to explain, I wanted to lynch jeejee day 1 and thought it was bold for him to defend varpulis at that point if varpulis was red
[14:49] <alanismorisette> why did i put jaehoon in my anti-team T.T
[14:49] <syllogism> that's perfectly logical, as I always am
[14:50] <BloodyC0bbler> you did a poor job convincing mig was scum then lol
[14:50] <syllogism> convincing mig? he agreed with me on jeejee day 1
[14:50] <syllogism> but we can lynch one per day
[14:53] <BloodyC0bbler> hey syllo
[14:53] <BloodyC0bbler> did mig tell you
[14:53] <BloodyC0bbler> who redff was suspicious of?
[14:53] <alanismorisette> ????????????
[14:53] <syllogism> yes, i knew everything mig knew and redff posted that in the thread too i think
[14:55] <Drazerk> ill be back later
[14:55] <Drazerk> try not to end two cycles while im gone
[14:56] <coagulation> HEY
[14:56] <coagulation> JOIN SIMPSONS
[14:56] <coagulation> MAFIA
[14:56] <coagulation> ALL OF YOU
[14:57] <coagulation> http://scum.forumgoo.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=142
[14:57] <coagulation> STARTS TONIGHT
[14:57] <coagulation> GOGO
[14:58] <alanismorisette> !!!!
[14:59] <taa> ok
[14:59] <taa> bc is probably town
[14:59] <syllogism> no, he is probably scum
[14:59] <taa> that leaves chaos/sevryn
[14:59] <syllogism> but chaos13 is better lynch today
[15:00] <taa> why?
[15:00] <taa> i find you more likely scum
[15:00] <Hesmyrr> I don't even have time to join TL mafia heh.
[15:00] <taa> bc
[15:00] <BloodyC0bbler> ?
[15:00] <syllogism> yes taa but you aren't good at the game
[15:00] <taa> so
[15:00] <taa> i can still play it
[15:00] <Hesmyrr> reading through XLIII, I should probably keep quiet about the game then right?
[15:00] <taa> like
[15:00] <syllogism> sure
[15:00] <taa> now then
[15:00] <Hesmyrr> as I am not a active participant.
[15:00] <taa> bc pushed jeejee
[15:00] <taa> like he really pushed him
[15:00] <taa> why would he do that?
[15:01] <syllogism> that's the only person he has pushed, which makes sense if you know his alignment and if you know he was going to get lynched anyway. That's not incriminating, but that's the context
[15:01] <BloodyC0bbler> and who have you pushed syllo
[15:01] <BloodyC0bbler> no one?
[15:01] <taa> ok
[15:01] <taa> now this
[15:01] <BloodyC0bbler> you've sat in the "confirmed zone" without
[15:01] <BloodyC0bbler> doing anything
[15:01] <syllogism> yep
[15:01] <BloodyC0bbler> you don't push your views, you limit most of your activity
[15:02] <BloodyC0bbler> to talking with mig
[15:02] <syllogism> except talk with mig, who was 100% sure I was town. Pretty dumb of me to kill him eh
[15:02] <BloodyC0bbler> depends on if he started to question that
[15:02] <BloodyC0bbler> or he mentioned something scarey
[15:02] <BloodyC0bbler> thats wifom
[15:02] <syllogism> curious how he never mentioned that to anyone then
[15:02] <BloodyC0bbler> mig viewed both myself
[15:02] <syllogism> when he knew he was a target every night
[15:02] <BloodyC0bbler> and drH
[15:02] <BloodyC0bbler> confirmed as well
[15:03] <taa> go to the voting thread
[15:03] <taa> look at day 1 votes for varp
[15:03] <syllogism> he did not, he just viewed you unlikely because it didn't logically make sense for scum to play like you did
[15:03] <taa> there is 1 scum in there
[15:03] <syllogism> as in, let jeejee fake claim and then shoot into the gorup
[15:03] <syllogism> and I concurred
[15:03] <syllogism> but as game goes on, things have to be re-evaluated
[15:04] <BloodyC0bbler> and yet if he was most sure of you
[15:04] <BloodyC0bbler> you would have been put out in the open
[15:04] <BloodyC0bbler> instead of drH or I
[15:04] <syllogism> what
[15:04] <BloodyC0bbler> put your most confirmed
[15:04] <BloodyC0bbler> against your least
[15:04] <BloodyC0bbler> gives you reason to know in that situation
[15:04] <BloodyC0bbler> 1 is less likely to lie
[15:10] <taa> chaos13/sevryn and syllo/lucid are scum
[15:12] <afk_ghrur> Haha, syllo doesn't seem to be willing to 1:1 bc
[15:12] <afk_ghrur> no, let's kill chaos instead eh?
[15:12] <syllogism> why not
[15:12] <syllogism> sure, lets lynch bc today
[15:13] <afk_ghrur> why, that's not what you said earlier
[15:13] <syllogism> i dont know alignments, I like both lynches
[15:13] <syllogism> what does that have anything to do with 1:1
[15:14] <BloodyC0bbler> the argument is one of you or me is red
[15:14] <BloodyC0bbler> I proposed a 1:1 trade
[15:14] <BloodyC0bbler> to figure out which it was
[15:14] <BloodyC0bbler> only issue is it wastes 2 town misslynches if im wrong of you
[15:14] <syllogism> it's a bad argument, because I'm extremely unlikely to be red
[15:14] <afk_ghrur> because you're being wishy-washy right now. You like both lynches? You said lynch chaos first earlier!
[15:14] <syllogism> afk_ghrur: uh, we have to lynch one first
[15:15] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo
[15:15] <BloodyC0bbler> as am I
[15:15] <BloodyC0bbler> if ON wasn't so damn active on irc
[15:15] <syllogism> BloodyC0bbler: yes, the problem is there are 6 vet claims
[15:15] <BloodyC0bbler> id be more inclined to say him
[15:15] <syllogism> and I still cant believe
[15:15] <BloodyC0bbler> or drH
[15:15] <syllogism> there are 6 vets
[15:15] <BloodyC0bbler> nor can I
[15:15] <BloodyC0bbler> which is why I was trying to figure out
[15:15] <BloodyC0bbler> if it was you or drH
[15:15] <syllogism> and I'm also finding your logic a bit lacking for your pro town play
[15:16] <syllogism> do you truly believe jeejee would agree to waste a shot n1 just to give me some town cred
[15:16] <syllogism> instead of, say, shooting someone else or just roleblocking him
[15:16] <syllogism> (not necessarily even shooting)
[15:16] <BloodyC0bbler> considering jeejee
[15:16] <BloodyC0bbler> had essentially given up
[15:16] <BloodyC0bbler> before game started
[15:16] <BloodyC0bbler> who fucking knows
[15:16] <afk_ghrur> Then why would you prefer to lynch chaos before sorting out the vet claims? Clearly we have to lynch one first, but you should have no qualms attacking BC with ferocity if you believe A. 6 vets aren't possible B. Someone in that group is red C. BC is red
[15:16] == afk_ghrur has changed nick to ghrur
[15:17] <BloodyC0bbler> my only issue with discussion of vet clearing
[15:17] <syllogism> I didn't think there could be 5 vets either and apparently that was wrong too
[15:17] <BloodyC0bbler> WHY IS NO ONE MENTIONING DRH
[15:17] <syllogism> i thought his play early on was towny, is why
[15:17] <ghrur> Yeah, i agree with that
[15:17] <BloodyC0bbler> and mig thought my behaviour was mostly fine as well past day 1
[15:17] <BloodyC0bbler> mig was sure of you
[15:17] <BloodyC0bbler> mig was sure of him, was sure of me? was sure of ON
[15:17] <BloodyC0bbler> but most likely
[15:17] <BloodyC0bbler> 1 of us is red
[15:17] <Lucidity> Why are you guys using mig as a defense?
[15:17] <BloodyC0bbler> and most likely you/me/drh
[15:18] <syllogism> he wasn't nearly as sure of you and drh, he suspected you most
[15:18] <BloodyC0bbler> have the red
[15:18] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo
[15:18] <Lucidity> "mig told me he thought i was town... THEREFORE I AM NOT SCUM"
[15:18] <BloodyC0bbler> everyone
[15:18] <Lucidity> er. no.
[15:18] <BloodyC0bbler> haas been calling me scum
[15:18] <BloodyC0bbler> off and on
[15:18] <BloodyC0bbler> all game
[15:18] <syllogism> yes
[15:18] <BloodyC0bbler> curu was telling me
[15:18] <BloodyC0bbler> that because i let mig lead
[15:18] <BloodyC0bbler> i must be red
[15:18] <BloodyC0bbler> and tried to use that as a valid reason
[15:19] <BloodyC0bbler> then when I start trying to figure out who is red
[15:19] <BloodyC0bbler> and mention anyone
[15:19] <BloodyC0bbler> im also red
[15:19] <BloodyC0bbler> The only name no one argues against
[15:19] <BloodyC0bbler> is chaos13 as red
[15:19] <ghrur> I think you're green like Kenpachi
[15:19] <taa> does curu seem scum?
[15:19] <BloodyC0bbler> and when litereally no one defends someone
[15:19] <ghrur> no
[15:20] <BloodyC0bbler> that person usually is town
[15:20] <taa> jeejee
[15:20] <Lucidity> except this late into the game perhaps
[15:20] <syllogism> scum isn't really in a position to defend anyone who already looks scummy
[15:20] <taa> got defended by syllo day 1
[15:20] <syllogism> are you stupid
[15:20] <taa> you did bro
[15:20] <ghrur> LOL
[15:20] <syllogism> taa
[15:20] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[15:21] <BloodyC0bbler> in the event you and I are both town
[15:21] <BloodyC0bbler> it gives mafia perfect hiding place
[15:21] <BloodyC0bbler> to push either lynch
[15:21] <BloodyC0bbler> almost scott free
[15:21] <taa> syllo
[15:21] <Lucidity> Sevryn's reason to vote chaos is horrendous, right?
[15:21] <BloodyC0bbler> regardless of how scummy you think I am
[15:21] <Lucidity> I'm not going insane?
[15:21] <BloodyC0bbler> I am generating discussion
[15:21] <syllogism> Lucidity: his reasons always are, unfortunately
[15:21] <BloodyC0bbler> to actually analyze
[15:21] <BloodyC0bbler> until called out
[15:21] <BloodyC0bbler> you did dick all
[15:21] <BloodyC0bbler> drH is still doing dickall
[15:22] <syllogism> i wonder if people can actually get modkilled
[15:22] <syllogism> for not playing the game anymore
[15:22] <BloodyC0bbler> well
[15:22] <BloodyC0bbler> manditory 3 posts
[15:22] <ghrur> then we're more fucked
[15:22] <BloodyC0bbler> and 1
[15:22] <BloodyC0bbler> per cycle
[15:22] <taa> syllogism, you think sevryn is scum?
[15:22] <syllogism> taa: he hasn't done anything, is awful and the trosky hit n1 is suspicious
[15:23] <Lucidity> modkills disappeared when we got to majority lynch
[15:23] <Kurumi> yup
[15:23] <taa> and chaos?
[15:23] <syllogism> so we have like 3-4 people who arent posting anymore
[15:23] <syllogism> and wont get modkilled
[15:23] <syllogism> and arent on irc
[15:24] <Kurumi> yeah
[15:24] <Kurumi> that was Your choice
[15:24] <Kurumi> You can only blame Yourself lol
[15:24] <BloodyC0bbler> wait
[15:24] <BloodyC0bbler> modkills wont happen
[15:24] <BloodyC0bbler> now
[15:24] <BloodyC0bbler> even with
[15:24] <BloodyC0bbler> reg day / night cycle??
[15:24] <Kurumi> yes they won't
[15:24] <ghrur> WHAT?
[15:24] <BloodyC0bbler> what the fuck
[15:25] <Kurumi> because it's impossible
[15:25] <Kurumi> to make sure
[15:25] <Kurumi> with Your fucking turbolynching
[15:25] <ghrur> wait, at least we're back to regday/night cycle right?
[15:25] <Kurumi> and 15 minute days
[15:25] <BloodyC0bbler> ........
[15:25] <BloodyC0bbler> remove majority lynch
[15:25] <BloodyC0bbler> then
[15:25] <Kurumi> too late
[15:25] <Kurumi> I told You
[15:25] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[15:25] <Kurumi> when we go majority lynch
[15:25] <Kurumi> there's no coming back
[15:25] <Kurumi> everyone agreed
[15:25] <BloodyC0bbler> god damnit kurumi
[15:25] <BloodyC0bbler> NO THEY DIDNT
[15:25] <syllogism> you didnt tell that you would remove modkills
[15:26] <syllogism> for inactivity
[15:26] <Kurumi> THEY DID
[15:26] <BloodyC0bbler> i argued against it
[15:26] <Kurumi> syllogism
[15:26] <Kurumi> isn't that OBVIOUS?
[15:26] <syllogism> no
[15:26] <BloodyC0bbler> and got overruled
[15:26] <Kurumi> please, how can 13 people make 3 post each during 15 minute day?
[15:26] <Kurumi> -_-
[15:26] <syllogism> 3 posts per 48 hours
[15:26] <syllogism> not ingame days
[15:27] <BloodyC0bbler> kurumi
[15:28] <BloodyC0bbler> does that mean
[15:28] <BloodyC0bbler> its potentially possible
[15:28] <BloodyC0bbler> to no lynch now?
[15:28] <Kurumi> sure
[15:29] <Kurumi> that's how majority lynches work
[15:29] <Lucidity> Kurumi, how about this
[15:29] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[15:29] <Lucidity> if we let the day last 48 hours
[15:29] <Lucidity> will modkills be enforced?
[15:29] <Lucidity> i.e. only hammer at 48 hours
[15:29] <Kurumi> You can't guarantee 24h nights
[15:29] <Kurumi>
[15:29] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[15:29] <Lucidity> well at least for the day portion
[15:30] <syllogism> 1h 20min until lynch?
[15:30] <Lucidity> and Kurumi just confirmed me as non-scum
[15:30] <BloodyC0bbler> you said 3 posts during day cycle
[15:30] <BloodyC0bbler> if day lasts
[15:30] <Lucidity> SHOT :D?
[15:30] <BloodyC0bbler> for 48 hours
[15:30] <Kurumi> 3 posts during the day
[15:30] <Lucidity> nah syllogism
[15:30] <Kurumi> 1 post during the night
[15:30] <BloodyC0bbler> would p[eople who didnt post
[15:30] <Lucidity> we have till tomorrow
[15:30] <BloodyC0bbler> those 3 posts
[15:30] <BloodyC0bbler> die?
[15:30] <syllogism> Kurumi said earlier that it's 24h
[15:30] <BloodyC0bbler> uh day cycles were 48 hours
[15:30] <syllogism> yes
[15:30] <Kurumi> they're 48
[15:30] <BloodyC0bbler> so we should have a day and a bit
[15:30] <ghrur> No syllo
[15:30] <BloodyC0bbler> still
[15:30] <syllogism> but he said he changed it to 234
[15:30] <syllogism> 24*
[15:30] <ghrur> He changed it back
[15:30] <ghrur> to 48
[15:30] <syllogism> oh ok
[15:34] <taa> ON is probably town right?
[15:34] <BloodyC0bbler> i have him read as town
[15:34] <BloodyC0bbler> purely from irc
[15:35] <syllogism> his posts were pretty towny too
[15:35] <BloodyC0bbler> his posts are meh
[15:38] <taa> lol
[15:38] <taa> ghrur is scum
[15:38] <taa> i might have traumatized syllogism for nothing
[15:38] <ghrur> lol ok
[15:38] <taa> sorry <3
[15:38] <taa> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&currentpage=25#499
[15:38] <taa> you defending jeejee
[15:39] <taa> and trying to get the lynch onto munk e
[15:39] <taa> wait
[15:39] <taa> are you dead?
[15:39] <BloodyC0bbler> ghrur?
[15:39] <ghrur> you... reading comprehension fail >_>
[15:39] <BloodyC0bbler> he didnt defend
[15:39] <BloodyC0bbler> jeejee
[15:39] <ghrur> that was a case against GG
[15:39] <BloodyC0bbler> at all
[15:39] <syllogism> he isnt defending jeejee
[15:39] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[15:40] <taa> was it?
[15:40] <taa> that doesnt make any sense
[15:40] <taa> its so soft
[15:40] <taa> derp
[15:41] <taa> did you defend munk e?
[15:41] <taa> or attacked him
[15:41] <taa> like i kind suspect you are
[15:41] <taa> kinda
[15:41] <BloodyC0bbler> he
[15:41] <BloodyC0bbler> attaacked
[15:41] <BloodyC0bbler> bioth
[15:41] <BloodyC0bbler> both*
[15:41] <taa> hmm
[15:41] <taa> well
[15:41] <taa> scum regardless
[15:41] <ghrur> Oh god, another redFF
[15:42] <alanismorisette> what
[15:42] <alanismorisette> can u not randomly ping me
[15:42] <ghrur> red, you finally found your first supporter in lynching me
[15:42] <alanismorisette> kthanksbye
[15:42] <taa> hi5
[15:43] <Lucidity> it's strange
[15:44] <Lucidity> we're 5 days into the game and we have no info on half the town
[15:44] <taa> good point
[15:44] <taa> whats good though
[15:44] <taa> is that ghrur is scum
[15:45] <ghrur> taa, I suggest you stop being useless and suggest chaos, syllo, or BC
[15:46] <syllogism> ghrur: are you a brick wall
[15:46] <taa> suggest as in accuse?
[15:46] <ghrur> yes
[15:46] <ghrur> No syllo, I'm a basketball
[15:46] <taa> syllo is a dick so id rather not accuse him in irc again
[15:46] <syllogism> lol
[15:46] <taa> chaos
[15:46] <taa> is such a coinflip
[15:47] <taa> like him and sevryn
[15:47] <taa> and whats up with bc?
[15:47] <taa> people seem to think hes scum
[15:47] <taa> but i havent find that much concrete stuff on him
[15:48] <taa> ghrur
[15:48] <taa> why you think bc is scum?
[15:48] <Lucidity> we shouldn't lynch a vet today
[15:48] <taa> ur a genius
[15:48] <ghrur> Me? I don't think BC is scum. I think syllo is scum
[15:48] <taa> lol
[15:48] <ghrur> Curu thinks BC is scum
[15:48] <Lucidity> and me
[15:48] <BloodyC0bbler> curu also prefers to off chaos13 first
[15:48] <taa> then why do you think syllo is scum ghrur?
[15:48] <Lucidity> ghrur scumslipped earlier
[15:49] <taa> shh
[15:49] <taa> let him speak
[15:49] <taa> also a link to the post plz
[15:49] <Lucidity> 19:25.53 ( Lucidity ) I think we should be going after the non-vet scum first
[15:49] <Lucidity> 19:26.23 ( ghrur ) Why? If there's a scum among the vets, we're guaranteed to hit if we just lynch syllo/bc/drH
[15:49] <Lucidity> how does he know i'm not scum?
[15:49] <Lucidity> herp ;p
[15:50] <taa> ghrur, why is syllo scum?
[15:50] <taa> that derp just disappeared on me :<
[15:50] <ghrur> Why? Well, first of all, Syllo was the first one to bring up the "not use a hit" option for mafia before anyone else even mentioned that. Everyone thought either double stack or hit a vet. Instead, Syllo was the first to bring up withholding a hit
[15:50] <ghrur> And lately, Syllo's been lurking until pressured
[15:50] <syllogism> wow because i'm smart
[15:50] <ghrur> then comes out of the woodworks to make some generic posts
[15:50] <syllogism> i'm scum
[15:50] <Barundar> evening
[15:51] <taa> syllo you havent dont that much for town man
[15:51] <ghrur> No, precisely because that wasn't smart. it ended up hitting mig. It didn't end up "withholding a shot"
[15:51] <syllogism> mig claimed shot immediately
[15:51] <syllogism> they had 2 kp
[15:51] <taa> ghrur thats extremely weak reasoning
[15:51] <ghrur> Oh TAA, i'm not done
[15:51] <ghrur> Syllo was also the first one to call out 5 vets isn't possible
[15:51] <taa> that sounds good lol
[15:51] <ghrur> so he rushed to push Munk-E
[15:52] <syllogism> i rushed to push?
[15:52] <ghrur> Then afterwards
[15:52] <ghrur> he accepted the 5 vets possibility
[15:52] <ghrur> [15:17] <syllogism> I didn't think there could be 5 vets either and apparently that was wrong too
[15:52] <ghrur> Like, why not question it?
[15:52] <syllogism> because there's no way
[15:52] <syllogism> both scum fake claimed vet
[15:52] <syllogism> so we have at least 5
[15:52] <taa> munk e isnt scum so it still could be 1
[15:52] <ghrur> You didn't ask if maybe someone on your vet list is scum?
[15:52] <taa> who are the remaining vets?
[15:53] <syllogism> what?
[15:53] <Lucidity> I also thought 5 was too many
[15:53] <taa> bc drh and?
[15:53] <ghrur> Lucid/BC/Syllo/DrH
[15:53] <Lucidity> but I now accept it
[15:53] <taa> mig
[15:53] <syllogism> yes, i think there's one scum on that list
[15:53] <syllogism> not two
[15:53] <syllogism> meaing there are 5 vets
[15:53] <syllogism> meaning
[15:53] <Barundar> has any of you had any luck with getting an opinion out of sevryn?
[15:53] <ghrur> Yeah, but you didn't question the list at all after munk-e died
[15:53] <Barundar> he isnt responding to PM's
[15:53] <ghrur> despite saying 5 vets wasn't possible at the time
[15:53] <syllogism> ghrur: you are extremely obtuse or scum
[15:54] <ghrur> why're you accusing me? did you ever accuse me before? or is this omgus?
[15:54] <taa> i think metagaming kurumi into guessing the setup is generally stupid
[15:54] <syllogism> i didn't accuse you
[15:54] <syllogism> that was just a generic statement
[15:54] <Barundar> i feel ignored
[15:54] <syllogism> saying that your argument is so bad
[15:54] <ghrur> oh, good boy, make more of those
[15:54] <Lucidity> nope Barundar
[15:54] <taa> if you scroll up a bit he did the same to me <
[15:55] <syllogism> yes now that mig died, there are mostly only idiots left
[15:55] <syllogism> which is why i wanted to die
[15:55] <syllogism> however
[15:55] <Lucidity> I think there needs to be a text ban on all variations of "dumb"
[15:55] <syllogism> curu asked me to keep playing
[15:55] <taa> AND HE DOES IT AGAIN
[15:55] <taa> is curu dead?
[15:55] <taa> no he isnt
[15:55] <syllogism> no
[15:55] <taa> that or your scum derp
[15:55] <taa> :p
[15:56] <ghrur> and now, syllo would've preferred to lynch chaos13 instead of pushing BC when BC wants to push Syllo first. If he wanted to die, he would've pushed BC because BC was willing to go 1:1 with syllo. Syllo didn't want to go 1:1 yet, he wanted to go with chaos13 as the lynch for today.
[15:56] <taa> but i think ghrur is more likely scum atm, prolly with sev/chaos
[15:56] <ghrur> Reason behind chaos? Easy bandwagon. Saves his skin for later. Doesn't get instantly hammered the next day
[15:56] <syllogism> taa: he is actively pushing suspicion on one of the most likely town players, based purely on objective analysis of actions so far
[15:57] <syllogism> which is scummy or stupid, annoying regardless
[15:57] <ghrur> objective analysis I like it
[15:57] <syllogism> he keeps ignoring my point about n1 actions
[15:57] <taa> do you consider yourself as one of the most likely townies?
[15:57] <taa> lol
[15:57] <syllogism> taa: do you know what happened n1?
[15:57] <syllogism> mig claimed vet to me before n1
[15:57] <taa> yeah yeah
[15:57] <syllogism> then he got hit
[15:58] <syllogism> and i'm not dumb enough to shoot someone like trotsky n1, awful hit
[15:58] <ghrur> okay, that's just wifom. Idk what you would do despite what you say
[15:58] <syllogism> it's not wifom
[15:58] <ghrur> and what else would you do if you were scum?
[15:58] <syllogism> anyone who knows how i play
[15:58] <ghrur> Hit+rB mig?
[15:58] <syllogism> would know I would never play like that
[15:58] <syllogism> either that or not hit mig at all
[15:58] <syllogism> or just rb him for some town cred
[15:58] <ghrur> or so you say but then you play like that and no one expects it and it's wifom
[15:59] <syllogism> no, because it's bad play
[15:59] <syllogism> i dont need that little town cred
[15:59] <syllogism> i wouldnt waste KP
[15:59] <syllogism> mig thought i was town before n1
[15:59] <ghrur> great, hearsay defense
[15:59] <taa> can you proof it?
[15:59] <syllogism> ask curu
[15:59] <syllogism> yes
[15:59] <syllogism> mig told curu
[15:59] <taa> ok
[16:00] <taa> who is scum
[16:00] <taa> but sev/chaos
[16:00] <syllogism> if there's a vet fake claiming, it's 95% bc
[16:00] <taa> why not lucid?
[16:00] <Barundar> you believe lucid over him?
[16:00] <taa> why bc?
[16:00] <syllogism> his claim doesnt make sense for me as mafia
[16:00] <syllogism> we were about to lynch munk-e, he had no reason to claim
[16:01] <syllogism> and bring even more suspicion upon him
[16:01] <taa> and bc had a reason?
[16:01] <syllogism> the likely scenario upon munk-e flipping vet (which he would have known)
[16:01] <taa> good point
[16:01] <ghrur> BC/Syllo/DrH all claimed before the munk-e lynch
[16:01] <ghrur> before GG lynch even
[16:01] <Barundar> thing that bothers me about lucids claim
[16:01] <Barundar> is that from the irc logs it doesnt say if he came on just to tell people that
[16:02] <Barundar> or if it just kinda bursted out
[16:02] <syllogism> i dont think mafia players just burst fake claims out
[16:02] <Kurumi> i am
[16:02] <Barundar> i mean if he was a town worried about the logic that lead to the lynch, because he was another hidden veteran, it would be the first thing he would say when he came on
[16:02] <Lucidity> neither
[16:02] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo
[16:02] <BloodyC0bbler> id never appear as a vet
[16:02] <BloodyC0bbler> thats your issue
[16:02] <Lucidity> I saw the post in the thread where there were over 9000 vet claims
[16:02] <BloodyC0bbler> nor would I push
[16:02] <syllogism> bc: yes it's possible we actually have 6 vets
[16:03] <BloodyC0bbler> a gf so hard
[16:03] <syllogism> and I agree, I dont understand your play if you are mafia
[16:03] <Lucidity> and then claimed in IRC
[16:03] <taa> i do
[16:03] <BloodyC0bbler> or let a rber
[16:03] <BloodyC0bbler> die
[16:03] <syllogism> but when we reach the point we've to lynch a vet
[16:03] <BloodyC0bbler> day 1
[16:03] <syllogism> you are my candidate
[16:03] <Barundar> yeah honestly I think its pointless lynching into the town circle
[16:03] <taa> all mafia bussed jeejee
[16:03] <Barundar> at least for now
[16:03] <taa> but
[16:03] <taa> i think if sev/chaos is scum
[16:03] <BloodyC0bbler> why would I bus him day 1
[16:03] <taa> its chaos
[16:03] <Barundar> cuz you're a bloody genious! <23
[16:03] <taa> like
[16:04] <taa> fuck that
[16:04] <taa> just lynch chaos
[16:04] <syllogism> a few people were on to him already and you could have foreseen that jeejee or you was going to get lynched, you are smart enought o see that
[16:04] <taa> sev is town

[13:33] <ghrur> so syllo, if you want to push someone else
[13:33] <ghrur> be my guest
[13:34] <ghrur> Just make a case and post it in the thread
[13:34] <ghrur> Otherwise, i'm all for trading you and BC 1:1
[13:35] <syllogism> Too much effort, go ahead, but let me point this out again
[13:35] <syllogism> No scum team, especially one with a good player like jeejee, would agree to waste a shot on mig the veteran on n1 when scum have 2 RBs, just to earn one of their lesser known players some town cred. The fact town had just lynched scum makes it even more unlikely.

[14:59] <taa> ok
[14:59] <taa> bc is probably town
[14:59] <syllogism> no, he is probably scum
[14:59] <taa> that leaves chaos/sevryn
[14:59] <syllogism> but chaos13 is better lynch today
[15:00] <taa> why?
[15:00] <taa> i find you more likely scum
[15:00] <Hesmyrr> I don't even have time to join TL mafia heh.
[15:00] <taa> bc
[15:00] <BloodyC0bbler> ?
[15:00] <syllogism> yes taa but you aren't good at the game

[15:12] <afk_ghrur> Haha, syllo doesn't seem to be willing to 1:1 bc
[15:12] <afk_ghrur> no, let's kill chaos instead eh?
[15:12] <syllogism> why not
[15:12] <syllogism> sure, lets lynch bc today
[15:13] <afk_ghrur> why, that's not what you said earlier
[15:13] <syllogism> i dont know alignments, I like both lynches
[15:13] <syllogism> what does that have anything to do with 1:1
[15:14] <BloodyC0bbler> the argument is one of you or me is red
[15:14] <BloodyC0bbler> I proposed a 1:1 trade
[15:14] <BloodyC0bbler> to figure out which it was
[15:14] <BloodyC0bbler> only issue is it wastes 2 town misslynches if im wrong of you
[15:14] <syllogism> it's a bad argument, because I'm extremely unlikely to be red
[15:14] <afk_ghrur> because you're being wishy-washy right now. You like both lynches? You said lynch chaos first earlier!
[15:14] <syllogism> afk_ghrur: uh, we have to lynch one first

Huh? Curu? No, I think Curu's like 99% town.

Me? I think Syllo/BC, one of them is scum. I see DrH as much more likely green.

Oh, and you/Lucid. One of you two is scum.

Original Message From chaos13:
I think that there is a mafia within the vet circle, and whoever it is they are doing some crazy plays to gain major town cred. The number of times I've seen them post "but mafia did this and this and since we all know everything that means we would have played better". Not true. I hosted a game in which a mafioso became part of a blue-only town circle. They had the names and roles of every single blue player in the game, and they organized their night kills so that it wouldn't give away to the player they were communicating with in the TC that they were mafia. That mafioso was Jackal58, and I would easily put some of the claimed vet players on par with him.

Besides him, I'm suspicious of syllo/Curu, for reasons that have already been stated in the thread. It's BC's analysis of syllo that really jumps out at me, as well as Curu defending him. However, if those two are the remaining scum that means that everyone else who has claimed vet is town (unless syllo's claimed vet as well, has he? I can't recall.)

What about you? Besides me, of course

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Original Message From ghrur:
Hey Chaos, what're your thoughts on the vet situation? Who do you think are the most scummy people right now?