• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:50
CEST 12:50
KST 19:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing CN community: Firefly accused of suspicious activities How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports?
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals NA Team League 6/8/2025 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 33939 users

Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia IV - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 20 2011 06:58 GMT
#378
You're random blabbing doesn't accomplish anything.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 20 2011 19:43 GMT
#387
On June 21 2011 02:53 Xedat wrote:
So who is mafia in your book gtrsrs? Accusing everyone? You said that between Xedat, Drazerk, CjrNinja and appruds there are 100% percent 3 mafioso. And now suddenly Pyo is mafia too?
Why don't you say anything about appruds?
Lets face it people, gtrsrs is very scummy, take everything he says with a grain of salt and don't just believe him.


Yeah, he's scum. Why the f**k did you change your vote...
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 20 2011 21:02 GMT
#393
##Vote: gtrsrs
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 20 2011 21:10 GMT
#397
On June 21 2011 06:05 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 06:02 Pyo wrote:
##Vote: gtrsrs


Save him, We can kill him tomorrow

For now we need to focus on the other targets

Personally Freeloader may be a good target at what would be better than taking out the guy responsible for last games win?


why exactly should we wait to kill him tomorrow? if he is scum, he's the most dangerous kind: the one claiming to be a blue and telling everyone who to vote for.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 20 2011 21:46 GMT
#400
On June 21 2011 06:29 gtrsrs wrote:
also take your votes off me. you have no case against me. we're voting for Drazerk or Xedat today. i'm leaning towards Xedat because although Drazerk is definitely scum, at least he's posting a lot. he might lead us to his other buddy or provide some helpful analysis


This is what really bothers me.

Also, "he's definitely scum but might provide some helpful analysis." WTF?
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#426
On June 22 2011 00:44 Xedat wrote:
no posts since nearly 9 hours? Say something town, silence will only help scum.


go f*ck yourself gtrsrs. Way to suck the life out of the game with your bs. If you're town, you're a terrible town who has done nothing but kill the conversation and destroy the fun of the game with the way you play the game. If you're mafia, as I suspect, congratulations. I have the feeling that this game is basically dead.

I mean when the host has to make a post like this, you know something's wrong.

To be honest, this game isn't even any fun anymore, so I'm just going to lay out my future votes and only post once per day until I'm dead:

1. gtrsrs (for reasons that I've already laid out)
2. supersoft (mostly for this post)
3. alderan (for pretty much saying nothing)
4. freeloader (his posts have a general scummy feel of saying stuff without saying stuff. he is first to accuse gtrsrs, but it backfires. Changes his vote after the "medic claim". Then is the one to bring forward this idea that mafia let gtrsrs live so that we'd lynch him.
5. drazerk, treadmill, xedat in alphabetical order (if we haven't won by now, we'd have lost)
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 21 2011 18:36 GMT
#432
On June 22 2011 03:08 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:58 Xedat wrote:
I would also like to chime in and say that gtrsrs' bad mannered style makes me not want to play the game. But he also did it when he was town so that does not mean he is scum.
Just check if he signs up to the same game you do, I will.


play to win, don't play to make friends


There's a huge difference between playing to win/not playing to make friends and being huge jackass.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 21 2011 19:05 GMT
#434
On June 22 2011 02:45 gtrsrs wrote:
>feigning disinterest, check
>saying you won't help the town any more, check
>laying out your voting pattern before any evidence is presented, check
>voting for the 4 most pro-town players first, check
>leaving the 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th votes, respectively, check


- I assure you that my acquired disinterest for this game is quite real

- I'm not saying I won't help town any more; I'm saying that it is beyond hope.

- I gave my reasons for my future voting patterns.

- 4 most pro-town players? what? first of all, according to whom? you? right. Just because someone says they are town doesn't mean that they are.

- 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th? what? As far as I can tell the only confirmed mafia is you.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 21 2011 19:14 GMT
#436
On June 22 2011 03:43 gtrsrs wrote:
>ignoring my analysis of your scumbuddy, check
>derailing the thread with petty 1-liner insults, check


what analysis? you mean your incoherent spam? right.

You began by sort of laying low until you were called out on it. Then you went into hyper ass hole mode. And when people actually believed that you're the medic, you proceeded to try and tell everyone what to do. You aren't doing analysis, you're just trying to dictate what the town does. If you really were the medic, then you have no more information about who is what than anyone else, and less information than the DT (assuming both you and alderan are telling the truth). Everything about what you're doing screams scum, yet it's almost incomprehensible that a mafia would so brazen about it. My only conclusion is that you're a terrible asshole of a townie or an ego-tripping mafia for having convinced people to change their minds after claiming medic.

Either way, trying to analyze your incoherent posting is just pissing me off in a "fuck this game I can't stand this jack-ass" sort of way.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 21 2011 19:17 GMT
#437
On June 22 2011 04:10 gtrsrs wrote:
if you're so disinterested in the game, get a sub. you're not helping town with your current posts, and voting for the confirmed medic. if you won't get a sub, you're feigning disinterest because you're mafia.


Gladly. If there are any subs available, I'd be more than happy to step out. In the event that there aren't any subs, I'll continue to post my required post/vote so I don't jeopardize my ability to participate in future mafia games.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 22 2011 22:22 GMT
#489
The game isn't over yet. Give me a sec. I think that there is still a winning strategy for town.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 23 2011 00:16 GMT
#500
All town has to do to stay in the game is to successfully hit a mafia next lynch (and I guess I can't quit).

it is 5:3 right now. Assuming mafia successfully kills someone tonight, it will be 4:3. This means that as long as we are able to successfully lynch mafia each night, we can still win. And if we manage to hit the roleblocker (assuming they have one), then town is actually at an advantage.

GIven that the only other person who voted gtrsrs flipped vanilla townie, I'm going to assume that there at least isn't another medic to counter claim. Now that doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't mafia given that he was going to get lynched so a 50/50 shot at claiming a non-existent role was better than the certainty of getting lynched. And given his personality, I wouldn't be surprised if he was actually a vanilla townie that claimed medic anyway.

However, at this point I'm going to place my wager on gtrsrs having told the truth. And since it isn't very likely that he gets lynched tomorrow, he'll probably end up dying tonight. If he was lying, then well, gg - you've fooled enough of the town that you're victory was well won.

Now, I'm going to assume that gtrsrs was telling the truth, so I'm going to go out on a limb here sort of force the mafia's hand.

I am the town Detective. Night 1, I checked freeloader and he turned green. In retrospect, I should have checked gtrsrs, but I thought he'd be dead by now for sure.

gtrsrs, I really hope you're the medic and actually care about winning. This isn't going to work if I'm wrong on either count.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 23 2011 21:06 GMT
#526
First of all, yes I was lying.

Second, gtrsrs, I really wish you weren't so goddamned cocky and arrogant. I gifted you a chance to save yourself and you just pissed it away by being so over-eager to call out my lie. Note that you alone were the only one who could have confirmed it to be the case. If you had just "admitted" to having blue claimed to save your skin, you'd be alive.

Third, is there an actual DT out there? Was anyone roleblocked tonight? Now's the time to claim.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 23 2011 21:14 GMT
#528
Since it's lynch or lose, we have to lynch a mafia or we lose.

Also since mafia has nearly as much voting power as town, ALL TOWN MUST VOTE UNANIMOUSLY. Better for everyone to pick someone and have a 50% chance of being wrong than for all of us to split our votes and let mafia 100% control the vote.

Unless a DT or someone comes forward as having been roleblocked...
##Vote: Alderan
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 23 2011 21:17 GMT
#529
On June 24 2011 06:11 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 06:06 Pyo wrote:
First of all, yes I was lying.

Second, gtrsrs, I really wish you weren't so goddamned cocky and arrogant. I gifted you a chance to save yourself and you just pissed it away by being so over-eager to call out my lie. Note that you alone were the only one who could have confirmed it to be the case. If you had just "admitted" to having blue claimed to save your skin, you'd be alive.

Third, is there an actual DT out there? Was anyone roleblocked tonight? Now's the time to claim.


I highly doubt there is another blue

I keep telling you we are playing game type 3 - No role blockers

##vote: Alderan

Don't Lie

Lying never helps town in any circumstances


Lying doesn't help town during the day when it can cause confusion, but if it can potential confuse mafia at night it is absolutely fine. If you think about it, had gtrsrs not been so damned adamant about being the medic, for all mafia knew it could be set up #4.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 23 2011 21:24 GMT
#532
I think it needs repeating:

If you are the DT, claim right now and save alderan.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 23 2011 21:50 GMT
#538
On June 24 2011 06:41 supersoft wrote:
I am not the DT, but how is your "trick" supposed to convince me. It was pretty obvious that you are not the DT either - at first you say something like:"let me think about something" after that you claim DT. That was extremely artificial. Mafia could now just step up and claim DT if there is no real DT... This plan didn't work out too well... We will never know whether that will be the real DT or not...

I know, that I pushed two mislynches... Okay, aprudds wasn't a good choice right from the beginning, but it was a weird situation and I tried to save our medic (and I was right about this guy)...
But I thought Xedat was 100% scum...

Since today is the last chance for us to come back, I will read the whole thread again and try to find something apart from the whole DT/roleblock-Claimstory... Obviously we can't trust the DT that will now come forward... We don't know whether he's scum or not and we don't know whether Alderan is scum or not.
Again: Since this is the last chance, don't overreact if someone roleclaims... He and Alderan could be mafia or they could be innocent. We don't know. And we can't afford a mislynch!

These overeager decisions in the past, nearly costed us the game! Now calm down, its 4:3 we nearly have a 50% chance to one of them.


It wasn't so obvious until gtrsrs started running his mouth. Roleclaiming at night is not standard play hence "let me think of something." I will defend my lie by saying there was no downside to doing. Worst case scenario everyone sees through it and nothing changes, best case scenario if there is a DT/RB then I just gave the real DT a chance to save himself, and if there is no DT/RB, I gave gtrsrs a chance to save himself. Since I didn't get lucky, we're right where were before.

Also the DT coming forward now is no more or less likely to be trusted than if I didn't claim DT.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 23 2011 21:55 GMT
#542
On June 24 2011 06:47 Drazerk wrote:
Ok how i see the day going now

Mafia will try to lynch me

Why?

Im pretty much on everyone's scum list ( and i mean everyone )

It will not be too hard to convince one townie that I am scum

If we make through the day with 4 Alderan votes we possibly have a chance

Let it be known that this will be a close day - 4:3 ... we cannot risk it any other way



No, mafia is going to bus Alderan if he is mafia, and if he just happens to be town, we lose.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 23 2011 22:00 GMT
#545
On June 24 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 06:53 Treadmill wrote:
On June 24 2011 06:51 Drazerk wrote:
Basically for this one day Alderan is a higher priority than me

So put the fingers down and trust me We have a lot of evidence pointing to him being scum and we must all vote for him

Mafia will be saying a lot of things in the next day as they screwed up last night, We must keep the focus on Alderan

Drazerk, please stop martyring. You have around 30 posts or so in this thread saying "oh, town is just gonna lynch me". They don't help town and only make you look scummier.


I am no longer Martyring we now no I am an easy scum target and that is what they will focus on

I am next on line and we can abuse this after seeing the out come of today


See this is a huge problem with newbie players. You can't explain the trap and have it work. Hold your f**king tongue (or keyboard). Rather than being quick to point everything out as you see it as soon as you see it, think about what you are doing and what it means. Then after someone has fallen for it, go ahead and point it out.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 23 2011 23:33 GMT
#551
On June 24 2011 08:25 Alderan wrote:
Its laughable......

Phenomenal play by mafia, for what its worth, I was RB'd again, but it doesn't matter, this is surely my death sentence and mafia will have won the game.

There are 2 scenarios to how this happened.

Pyo thought he was saving the game by false claiming DT, but it was way to obvious, mafia picked up on it and risked getting DT checked to have a sure fire scape goat, in me. They only need one vote, so even if a DT claimed now to save me it would cause so much uncertainty that it would almost certainly result in one of us casting a misslynch vote and the scum winning.

The other scenario is Pyo is scum, fake claimed, and then immediately took back his fake claim after the night. Again the key here is to force uncertainty. He knew that this would place me on the chopping blocks. But why would a mafia who is so far ahead risk it?

Well because they were afraid of their fearless leader Drazerk getting lynched, which, would DEFINITELY had happened had Pyo's claim and a repeated RB on me not taken place.

It's town 101 to never lie, so it is either a HORRIBLE play by pyo, or great play by mafia, but either we lose.

If there is a real DT, they need to claim or Drazerk and supersoft will win the game tonight.





LOL!!!! First you say that you were roleblocked. Then you say "If there is a real DT." Way to make it exceedingly obvious that you are mafia.

Also, it may have been poorly executed, but false claiming DT was absolutely NOT a "bad" play. At worst it was an irrelevant play. Also, since when was it town 101 to never lie?
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
10:00
StarCraft Evolution League #13
CranKy Ducklings110
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 262
Lowko198
ProTech63
Rex 33
EnDerr 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34700
Sea 6696
Jaedong 2675
Bisu 1341
Pusan 583
actioN 413
BeSt 310
EffOrt 271
Stork 259
Mini 218
[ Show more ]
Larva 172
ZerO 116
Light 99
Dewaltoss 94
Hyun 94
Mong 93
ToSsGirL 50
GoRush 48
Mind 43
Sharp 29
Movie 28
Backho 25
sSak 24
Sacsri 14
Dota 2
XcaliburYe581
BananaSlamJamma435
League of Legends
JimRising 471
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss954
x6flipin445
allub268
Other Games
singsing1243
crisheroes299
Mew2King237
XaKoH 217
Pyrionflax200
DeMusliM171
ZerO(Twitch)21
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream4044
Other Games
gamesdonequick607
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Rasowy 11
• Airneanach5
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota293
League of Legends
• Stunt539
Other Games
• WagamamaTV145
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
10m
Rex33
WardiTV30
PiGosaur Monday
13h 10m
GSL Code S
22h 40m
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Online Event
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
GSL Code S
1d 22h
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Cheesadelphia
4 days
CSO Cup
4 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.