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/out I think I'll play the lynch all liars game instead | ||
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I'm gonna tentatively sign back up for this one before it fills up, got permission from bumatlarge to participate in both his and this game (assuming that it's cool with you GM). | ||
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Funny how it turned out that appruds was mafia after all. | ||
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On June 18 2011 04:01 freeloader625 wrote: Just for clarification because all my life I've been confused on this... EDT is eastern. I am eastern. But sometimes ppl write (-04:00) but whenever I fill out forms and crap eastern is always (-05:00). WHAT IS GOING ON!?!? When it is no longer daylight savings time (the clocks will next change in November), "Eastern Daylight Time" becomes "Eastern Standard Time" or EST, which -05:00. | ||
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On June 18 2011 05:51 omgCRAZY wrote: Let's all have a fun clean game.  (OH GAWD DON'T KILL ME!)Well at the player list: 1. aprudds 2. Treadmill 3. omgCRAZY 4. gtrsrs 5. Lord Vatti 6. Alderan 7. CjrNinja 8. supersoft 9. Pyo 10. Xedat 11. Drazerk 12. freeloader625 One of us doesn't belong... | ||
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On June 18 2011 06:41 Treadmill wrote: I was ignoring that possibility more because of the strangeness of a role-blocker with no roles to block. I suppose that GM could just be screwing with us though. It's not that strange... as explained earlier in this thread, that set up exists so that mafia don't automatically know the set up if they have a roleblocker. Any play that involves early blue claims (or relies on blues at all, really) is generally a bad way to go. | ||
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On June 18 2011 23:00 Xedat wrote: Yeah, I am not actually suspecting you, just tried to get someone talking. We will see if someone slips something stupid, otherwise it will be a random lynch tomorrow I think. You might not be, but I most certainly am. What is particularly suspicious about Drazek is how much his posting behavior has changed between last game and this one. Last game Drazek said almost nothing all game long. However, he's been perhaps the biggest talker this game. I suppose one could attribute this to being "more comfortable" with the smaller setting, but it's not like he increased his posted more at the end of the last game. This strikes me as very suspicious. ##Vote: Drazek | ||
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There are 3 people that stand out to me so far: Drazek, who was post a lot more than he used to until I called him out on it aprudds, who was mafia last time, which makes me think that he's town this time alderan, who has only posted twice (contradicting himself as aprudds pointed out) supersoft, who has only a couple times then gave the excuse of "i'll be away for a while" For now I'm going to leave my vote on Drazek, but we should be highly suspicious of alderan and supersoft. there is a 1/4 chance that any given individual is mafia. This means that if we have fewer than 4 suspects, it is a winning strategy to randomly pick one of them and lynch that person. If we have 4 or more suspects, then it would be better to not vote at all, or in this case to vote for the person who is about to be modkilled. So when it comes to voting for Lord Vatti, ask your self, "are there 4 people or more who are very suspicious?" If the answer is yes, vote for him. If the answer is no, pick on of the others. | ||
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On June 19 2011 14:01 Treadmill wrote: Your logic is kinda crappy, Pyo. You're assuming that if we have, say, 3 suspects, that one (and exactly one) must be red. Which is obviously not the case. Also, don't metagame too much, its entirely possible that aprudds got mafia twice in a row. @aprudds: sorry, I don't mean to be passive. Partly I'm just a little uncertain considering how absolutely wrong I was about everything last game. I actually agree with you that we should lynch whomever seems most suspicious, not go after L.V. for being inactive. But I think we have around 12 hours for people to post and possibly slip up. No, people won't shout "I am mafia" but they may contradict themselves or make spurious arguments. The point isn't that if you suspect that 3 people are mafia than 1 has to be, it's that if you can reasonably eliminate some people off the list of suspects then it becomes a winning strategy to pick from the remaining randomly. Basically, a non-lynch is better than a mislynch as gtrsrs points out. There's a 3/4 chance of a mislynch, so to actually lynch someone, you need to be better than 3/4 certain that the lynch target is guilty. It's somewhat subjective, but I feel as though if you can reasonably eliminate 8 of the other 11 people out there, then placing your vote on one of the remaining 3 people. Also you missed my point about aprudds. I'm simply pointing out that given that there's nothing else going on, noticing differences in behavior are more substantial grounds for accusation than random tunneling. aprudds changing his posting patterns doesn't really mean much since last time he was mafia. I brought him up as a comparison to Drazek who noticeably changed his posting pattern but was town last time. aprudds is also pretty good at this game from what I can tell, which makes him quite dangerous in and of itself so you should be suspicious of him regardless. The purpose of the accusation against Drazek was to apply serious pressure, since I have a semi-legitimate reason to go after him. A couple people followed suit, and he dropped off the grid. This makes Drazek extremely suspicious. | ||
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On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: Early post of game gtrsrs attacks me based on no evidence at all. In fact as apprudds pointed out, his post reeks of oxymoron, his attack is, “your post doesn’t help” when in fact his post doesn’t help either. So aggressive, but I understand why you would do this. You want me to speak up and post more. This would be a pro town play. That isn't oxymoron. At best that's irony. | ||
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On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: Now lets assume we all vote to lynch Drazerk. At the very least he'll start posting frantically and we all gain something. This is what you wanted right? Yet you seems so fast to defend him. If he flips green we made the wrong choice but at least we have effectively increased our chance to lynch red by having a list of potential suspects based on voting patterns and bandwagon jumpers. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT THIS LIST? Why try so hard to prevent it before it even starts? That is of course unless you already know hes red and want to stop a red lynch before it goes further. You wanted people to talk early game for “information” by pressuring and now you try to shy town away from that very same tactic of pressure and play passive. I just don't get it. Only logic left is protecting buddy scum from getting any more pressure and before he scum slips. This is bad reasoning. Mafia have no reason to go along with a voting bandwagon on day 1 unless by random circumstance one of their own get targeted, in which case they might drive a bandwagon against someone else. Notice how not a single mafia voted for freeloader day 1 in the last game? If anything mafia will do their best to lay low day 1 voting for nobody in particular unless they can't undo a random bandwagon on one of their own. If that happens they'll probably end up bussing him. My point here is that regardless of who ends up getting lynched today, even if they flip green, those that voted for that person doesn't necessarily include mafia. | ||
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On June 19 2011 22:35 Drazerk wrote: If for what ever reason you decide not to kill me and waste a townie ... ##Unvote: Lord Vatti ##Vote: gtrsrs This is a very interesting development. I'm going to have to think about this... | ||
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On June 19 2011 23:25 Drazerk wrote: Infact I see it as more the people that DON'T vote for me as more mafia as they know ill Flip green as so let town do their dirty work What really doesn't make sense to me is why you would choose to martyr yourself. That makes no sense to me whatsoever. Either you're an idiot who doesn't know how to read/count or there's something odd going on. I haven't figured out which. | ||
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On June 20 2011 03:37 gtrsrs wrote: quoting so it's on the new page, this is important This is my way of saying gtrsrs needs to stop being an asshole, since my more subtle hints asking him to chill out haven't really gotten across. ##Unvote: Drazek ##Vote: gtrsrs Also for the record, Drazek (seemingly unintentional) martyring is enough to convince me that we shouldn't lynch him... yet. | ||
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aprudds, this is starting to really bug me: your = possessive pronoun you're = you are if you're too lazy to use an apostrophe, just do what 12 year old girls use: "ur" | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:08 gtrsrs wrote: so, the game is on Pyo and Treadmill (and potentially cjrninja if he's town). are you guys gonna change your votes? No dice. Why? Because of shit like this. On June 20 2011 05:26 gtrsrs wrote: YOU FUCKING SCHOLAR, YOU FUCKING GENTLEMAN, I HAVE EXPLAINED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT I CLAIMED BECAUSE THERE WERE 6 OUT OF 11 VOTES ON ME; EVEN AFTER I TRIED TO PULL VOTES OFF MYSELF WITHOUT CLAIMING, I ONLY NETTED 2 MORE VOTES ON MYSELF. STOP SPAMMING AND TAKE YOUR VOTE OFF ME If you're town: Look kurumi, you might actually be the medic, but honestly it doesn't even matter anymore. If there are roleblockers, then you're just as useless as any townie. If there aren't roleblockers, you're dead anyway. If you're mafia: Look iGrok, no need to get all butt-hurt by people voting for you. You've been a huge jackass in both this game and the last so it shouldn't be any surprise no one is going to go out on a limb and cut you any slack. However, the way you've been playing this game is exactly like iGrok did in the last game. High-sounding bleah where you sort of try to establish town cred/leadership, but don't really do or say anything meaningful. Then in response to pressure you go all ape-shit à la Mel Gibson in Braveheart (or The Patriot). so my only response is ¯\(°_o)/¯ | ||
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BTW, I still don't buy that you're the medic. The only way that I'll be convinced of this is if you actually flip blue. | ||
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