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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
When "Hero" is used entire sentence is devoted to Sandroba and how he works. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4400 Posts
Lyter has 3 posts in the thread since the game began properly, 5 overall. On May 04 2011 23:54 Lyter wrote: This is my first game of Mafia on a forum, I've played quite a lot of the Mafia custom on SC2 so I know how it works but I'd consider myself a newbie in a big forum game like this. That's cool, fair enough. On May 05 2011 17:29 Lyter wrote: I'm not really buying all these random accusations flying around on day 1, maybe its just me, but I'd much rather see a night through so we actually have something to work with, at this point it is just pure guesswork imo. On May 05 2011 18:20 Lyter wrote: Ah didn't realise someone had to die, time to do some thinking  Um, lol? This is either really nooby or just plain trying to hide. Take a stance! On May 05 2011 22:24 Lyter wrote: ##Vote: Irish_Punk13 You obviously did your thinking. You have no other posts after your thinking post though. Please explain? I am not accusing you just yet but I'd like to hear your reasoning. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
Kurumi has not done anything to redeem himself in my eyes. His posts have remained useless and confusing. I don't see what a townie would have to gain by lining themselves up for a lynch, so I think that is just his defense for being caught as scum, trying to make us afraid to lynch him so we aren't labeled as scum. If he flips red, then we can take a closer look at the people who are connected to him, such as Irish_Punk. He is standing out to me more than any other player so far. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On May 06 2011 00:09 chaos13 wrote: The style of game you guys play here is way beyond what I'm used to on UG, so I apologize for my relative lack of usefulness while I try to figure things out. Kurumi has not done anything to redeem himself in my eyes. His posts have remained useless and confusing. I don't see what a townie would have to gain by lining themselves up for a lynch, so I think that is just his defense for being caught as scum, trying to make us afraid to lynch him so we aren't labeled as scum. If he flips red, then we can take a closer look at the people who are connected to him, such as Irish_Punk. He is standing out to me more than any other player so far. That's all? You just jumped in here after lurking a bit,threw the "weird and confusing early posts",stated my defence as useless and scum last-stand. Where is Your own opinion? You're just jumping on bandwagon. Any analysis please on me or someone else? You can't just go with the flow and contribute nothing. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Except I have focused on him? There's a certain thing called reading the air. I've already posted my thoughts on Irish, barely anyone responded to it and everyone seems to find it better to lynch Kurumi. I already consider both of them to be scum based upon behavior (Kurumi says to stop talking about me and 100% supports a lynch of Irish, AO accuses Kurumi, Irish comes in and chainsaw defends Kurumi with AO, Kurumi IMMEDIATELY switches votes onto AO) In this situation, whether we vote Irish or Kurumi, doesn't matter since 1) Both of them are acting scummy 2) Both lynches will be telling of the other person's alignment. The reason I push Irish's lynch is because I am more confident about his lynch over Kurumi's (70% sure vs 60% sure). Go reread KillerSOS' posts. People think he is scummy because of his line "Why would I want to be lynched, I don't want to die." Go reread his posts and decide if he's just a simple newbie or red. Either way, we can discuss his lynch tomorrow, after the night. About Irish. At the end of the day, whether you think he is mafia or not, he hasn't come back yet to defend himself at all. He has yet to explain his "Kurumi has made excellent analysis statements" and he has yet to explain his quick sudden suspicions onto AO. He literally popped in, said almost nothing, and then hasn't posted since. You're damn straight I find that scummy as fuck. I quote this line way too much but Ace, when he was helping coach Team Melee said: Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself? On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote: Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here. About Kurumi. Kurumi is tied to Irish and you can see in his crazy convoluted posting that he's still trying to push the lynch off Irish. On May 05 2011 21:55 Kurumi wrote: It flipped so wrong,but so good after all. My mistakes and weird play created a bandwagon which is such an easy way for scum to push lynch. That's ok. About my hyperactive posting: I was really pumped out for my first Mafia game on TL,don't get me wrong but I wanted to flip out as best as I could,horribly failed though. The biggest concern now is that I generated some kind of defence for Irish_Punk13 which was not my intention,also I got connected with him. Even if You lynch Irish and he flips out Mafia I am DEAD. If You lynch me,I am DEAD. Who else can You lynch? Well,entire society is now focused on me,Irish,AO. It is very easy to make another same analysis post about how my or those two posting was,just take a note that does not certainly mean someone wants to help You,but just to show that Mafia cares to lynch someone who isn't them. My derail wasted a lot of Your time and I am sorry for that,I might meant it,but I did not think that it would turn out to be discussion number 1. Bandwagon is ready Scum,buy Your tickets,I am already cursing at You. No where in that post does he address the Irish issue. He doesn't explicitly defend him but he does insinuate that both of them are town. He passes off all the conversation on them as "scum forming an easy bandwagon". He states: I set the traps already,just waiting for prey I tried making myself easy Day 2 lynch to try to reveal Scum,but I pushed it too hard,thus it is highly likely I will die this Day 1. but previous to this stated: My mistakes and weird play created a bandwagon which is such an easy way for scum to push lynch. You can't just forget about my earlier mistakes So did he PLAN to act as an easy target to draw mafia out to band wagon him or was it just mistakes? He's wishy-washy here. Either state that your posting was planned all along or that your posting was "mistakes", stick to a statement, not both. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
The plan was to make me an easy target for bandwagon,sadly I made some mistakes thus making me VERY easy target to bandwagon a day before I wanted it to happen. The Irish thing is just a lie repeated by someone I'd need to look for. My vote for Irish was just a blind vote for a person who came in,left us for a while,call it a poke or whatever. When he came back not only he started contributing so I could unvote him for now,but AO jumped with his "Dead townie good townie" thing. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On May 06 2011 00:30 chaoser wrote: @redtooth Except I have focused on him? There's a certain thing called reading the air. I've already posted my thoughts on Irish, barely anyone responded to it and everyone seems to find it better to lynch Kurumi. I already consider both of them to be scum based upon behavior (Kurumi says to stop talking about me and 100% supports a lynch of Irish, AO accuses Kurumi, Irish comes in and chainsaw defends Kurumi with AO, Kurumi IMMEDIATELY switches votes onto AO) In this situation, whether we vote Irish or Kurumi, doesn't matter since 1) Both of them are acting scummy 2) Both lynches will be telling of the other person's alignment. The reason I push Irish's lynch is because I am more confident about his lynch over Kurumi's (70% sure vs 60% sure). Go reread KillerSOS' posts. People think he is scummy because of his line "Why would I want to be lynched, I don't want to die." Go reread his posts and decide if he's just a simple newbie or red. Either way, we can discuss his lynch tomorrow, after the night. About Irish. At the end of the day, whether you think he is mafia or not, he hasn't come back yet to defend himself at all. He has yet to explain his "Kurumi has made excellent analysis statements" and he has yet to explain his quick sudden suspicions onto AO. He literally popped in, said almost nothing, and then hasn't posted since. You're damn straight I find that scummy as fuck. I quote this line way too much but Ace, when he was helping coach Team Melee said: About Kurumi. Kurumi is tied to Irish and you can see in his crazy convoluted posting that he's still trying to push the lynch off Irish. No where in that post does he address the Irish issue. He doesn't explicitly defend him but he does insinuate that both of them are town. He passes off all the conversation on them as "scum forming an easy bandwagon". He states: but previous to this stated: So did he PLAN to act as an easy target to draw mafia out to band wagon him or was it just mistakes? He's wishy-washy here. Either state that your posting was planned all along or that your posting was "mistakes", stick to a statement, not both. Could be all that. Could be just overwhelmed noobs. If Irish is scum he'll out himself. Cthsazsa already has. His response to my poke was over the top and quite extended. His post I poked him about was a pure scum agenda. His response was pure scum response. He constantly evades the issue I poked him on and shifts it to a not 'knowing the definitions of lurker/inactive" That's not the item in his post I FoSed him on and I told him that. Yet he still tries to deflect back to that issue. He's scum. I am voting for him and urge you all to do the same. I may not be back before day is over. I have to travel to Dallas. So I make my vote now. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On May 06 2011 00:38 Kurumi wrote: Redtooth The plan was to make me an easy target for bandwagon,sadly I made some mistakes thus making me VERY easy target to bandwagon a day before I wanted it to happen. The Irish thing is just a lie repeated by someone I'd need to look for. My vote for Irish was just a blind vote for a person who came in,left us for a while,call it a poke or whatever. When he came back not only he started contributing so I could unvote him for now,but AO jumped with his "Dead townie good townie" thing. Who did you want to look for from the "Irish thing" that was a lie? First you say you were using it to look for someone and then you're saying it's a blind vote. Why did you wait a full day to reveal that you had this plan? Why do you consider your actions a mistake? Like you supposedly wanted, a bandwagon formed, so what was the mistake? What are you opinions on Irish saying that you had put forth good "analysis" when you hadn't yet? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On May 06 2011 00:51 chaoser wrote: Who did you want to look for from the "Irish thing" that was a lie? First you say you were using it to look for someone and then you're saying it's a blind vote. Why did you wait a full day to reveal that you had this plan? Why do you consider your actions a mistake? Like you supposedly wanted, a bandwagon formed, so what was the mistake? What are you opinions on Irish saying that you had put forth good "analysis" when you hadn't yet? I would like to see an answer from both of them on this. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Stop repeating yourself and start answering my questions about Your idiotic claims about how my SC2 posting is different from Mafia one. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 06 2011 00:38 Kurumi wrote: Redtooth The plan was to make me an easy target for bandwagon,sadly I made some mistakes thus making me VERY easy target to bandwagon a day before I wanted it to happen. The Irish thing is just a lie repeated by someone I'd need to look for. My vote for Irish was just a blind vote for a person who came in,left us for a while,call it a poke or whatever. When he came back not only he started contributing so I could unvote him for now,but AO jumped with his "Dead townie good townie" thing. I'm confused. Are you saying you were purposely acting scummy in order for people to vote against you? And now your concerned that you were acting too scummy and your plan worked too well? I'm not sure I follow. Could you point out the specifics of your plan, such as which statements you made in order to create a bandwagon and trap people? | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Write nothing but confusion,which would make people pick on it and start discussion around. Some people got hooked instantly I am scum (look my Sandroba analysis post which You left in the end of page 32) Airblade stated his trademark lynching is always good,Chaoser teamed up with Sandroba nicely against me. Town started the discussion. Great,the thing I intended to do done! Town starts hardcore scumhunting and brainstorming.. About me and Irish,AO. No God damnit,look at all the vets trying to hide in shadows and some obvious bandwagoners stating the obvious from previous posts. In short,people are looking very closely at me now while dropping everything else and I tried to wake up You by doing bigger analysis post but You just IGNORED it. Fine. Scum got obvious lynch and now will try to push it,but they made some obvious mistakes too,I think I got some of those but not all,come on I am not a mastermind. Delaying my lynch just by day would leave You with more informationthan just killing me and leaving my case abandoned. What do You have besides me,AO and Irish? If I flip town,Irish is just insane townie and AO needs to say "I was wrong" and the game goes on,nothing left,the fuss is cleaned up. | ||
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
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Takuna
Germany332 Posts
This is actually my first game here at TL, i played it rl on a couple of (drunk) occasions. Took quite a while to read the whole thread, so here are my thoughts.... Kurumi: His average posts arent of a very high quality, but he did force a lot of statements about him by this, with actually should help town regardless of the fact if he is scum or not. But he should be more precise and futue and he is already trying. Irish_Punk13/Airbladeorange totally confused by this discussion now. They are cases, but non of them actually convinces me yet enough to lynch them. For this day i will go with Cthsazsa, he was winding like a snake after being accused, for me the strongest case up to date. ##Vote: Cthsazsa | ||
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DropBear
Australia4400 Posts
There doesn't seem to be much opposition to his lynch so far, just Redtooth and himself. He's winning quite easily. Surely if he were mafia there'd be more resistance? I'm not convinced by what's been said. He is posting strangely but isn't enough for me to suspect him yet. There are a LOT of people who are hiding. Beneather Mig Amber[Light] Kenpachi GGQ Rising_Phoenix Takuna all need to talk more. The discussion is being completely dominated by the same few players. My vote remains on Beneather. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4400 Posts
I forgot to include Lyter in my list of people who are very quiet. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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DropBear
Australia4400 Posts
On May 06 2011 02:25 Kurumi wrote: So my Sandroba Analysis is still left undiscussed? Give me a minute | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 06 2011 02:13 Takuna wrote: Hi you all, sry for late posting, but don't worry, now I'm here :D This is actually my first game here at TL, i played it rl on a couple of (drunk) occasions. Took quite a while to read the whole thread, so here are my thoughts.... Kurumi: His average posts arent of a very high quality, but he did force a lot of statements about him by this, with actually should help town regardless of the fact if he is scum or not. But he should be more precise and futue and he is already trying. Irish_Punk13/Airbladeorange totally confused by this discussion now. They are cases, but non of them actually convinces me yet enough to lynch them. For this day i will go with Cthsazsa, he was winding like a snake after being accused, for me the strongest case up to date. ##Vote: Cthsazsa Could you analyze someone for us? Coming in and voting for someone with your first post without much explanation doesn't give us much to go by when trying to figure out where you stand. | ||
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