Experiment Mafia II - Page 14

On April 30 2011 01:11 Orange2 wrote:
While we wait on that, let us critcaly analyze green's claim, now as I see it there are four possibilities here

1.) Green is a cop, and checked zerg, despite the "minor" inconsistency with his role not working as detailed in the OP, it might be possible, in that case if we lynch him when the ability flips tomorrow we find we have two mafia left and lynch zerg, because in that case we know green was probably not lying

2.) Green is scum, and this is a ballsy play to survive, in that case I would argue red was probably his partner and he wants us to lynch zerg so that when we flip the reveal tomorrow we "confirm" him as the DT. Its a ballsy play if thats the case as he might win the game with it. Otherwise if we lynch zerg on his word and get a return of 2 mafia tomorrow we lynch him

3.) Green is a townie who is fucking with us. If so then he is driving us to case 4, as if we lynch him and the flip the check to see there are 2 mafia left the logical conclusion is to lynch zerg, which if zerg isn't mafia (And if green is a townie he dosn;t know for sure) will cost us the game.

4.) green is a traitor who is trying to get us to waste a lynch on him to bring about lylo with 2 mafia left alive, this is an odd possibility, as I don't think the traitor role is present in this setup, but if its the case and we lynched zerg then him then mafia would win, so I wouldn't discount it as a possibility.

as I see it, its best to lynch green and see the mafia numbers tomorrow, if there are two left we lynch zerg, the only case where this backfires is #3, and #4, which I see as a less than likely scenarios, although they *could* happen I suppose.

On April 29 2011 20:10 Blue1 wrote:
Alright so let's make sense of all of this. From a newbie blue who wants to survive perspective he would have jumped at the opportunity of being protected by the medic. It makes no sense. From a newbie townie that wants to take a hit for the team perspective he would not have revealed his plan before the end of the night. It makes no sense.
Now from a mafia perspective, lets see:
1) Try to survive the day lynch at all costs. Check
2) Being extremely defensive and not posting any content whatsoever. Check
3) Not helping town gather info at all, even after I told him multiple times to do so. Check
4) Not willing to commit to any votes at all and being conserned about looking scummy. Check
5) Not having any reason to be concerned about survival at night time. Saying, I'm just a regular townie, who has no blue powers. Don't mind me if I don't get killed at night. Nothing to be suspicious about. Check
##Vote : Protoss

On April 30 2011 04:06 purple2 wrote:
terran. Unless his participation increases significantly we really are screwed going into a lylo situation with him.

On April 30 2011 04:14 Orange2 wrote:


he has all of two posts, you have a pretty decent point with that, however how sure are we that he is scum, in my experience scum rarely request replacements, as mafia is a fun role to play, however I don't want to discard the possibility that he might be either, as RL often has the unfortunate tendency to interfere when its least desired.

Frack, I hate inactivity...

On April 30 2011 04:25 purple2 wrote:

I'd be very surprised if he is scum. But we can't win if scum gets a defacto tie due to his inability or unwillingness to play. It's a fucked up situation no matter how you look at it. Do we lynch a high probability townie to give us a chance to win? Lynching him may very well put us into a lylo position. That scenario may very well happen though.
Hopefully red was scum and this is a non issue. But if the situation arises how are we going to deal with it?

On April 30 2011 04:43 Orange2 wrote:


Its an interesting dilemma, I think in this case its safe to ask RoL how likely it is that terran is getting a replacement, if it isn't likely then we cannot really afford to carry terran into lylo, as if he dosn't vote it becomes a race of who hits the vote button first, mafia or town. I'll ask

RoL how is replacing terran coming along? His inactivity is really starting to hurt

but basically if terran isn't being replaced we may very well have to waste a lynch on him, bringing us to lylo, which bothers me, I'd rather have as much buffer room between us and defeat as possible, but I dont think having an "extra" lynch is better if it means we have to risk the game on a coinflip.

Essentially unless terran gets a replacement asap, we have no choice but to lynch him.

On April 28 2011 03:55 green2 wrote:


I'm Sheriff.

On April 30 2011 05:35 Terran1 wrote:
Hey guys, what happened?

On April 30 2011 05:32 purple2 wrote:
I was rereading the thread, in particular blue's posts. He has occasionally given me a scummy feeling. But I came across this and remember not quite understanding the context of it the first time I read it.


From page 7. I don't know if anybody else saw this or not. It was posted during day 1. Either scum didn't see it or he is scum.

On April 30 2011 05:37 Orange2 wrote:


Or scum interpreted it as random spam, which is what I did. It didn't even occur to me that that was a claim,

@Terran, we are lynching green for claiming DT and lying about his result, so vote him for now, please read through the thread and get back to us on who you think is scum.

On April 30 2011 05:40 Terran1 wrote:

Just skimmed that
##Vote: Green2 the slip is inexcusible, and indicative of a fake claim.

On the other hand I am still bothered by Zerg1.