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On April 30 2011 12:34 Blue1 wrote:
wait, if green is traitor he's derailing protoss lynch. That's the only possible scenario it makes any kind of sense.
That would imply he knows who they are. From the OP:
Traitor
Welcome to experiment mafia, you are a traitor. You can vote for someone during the day, however you secretly hate the town and want them all dead. If the mafia wins, you win. You do not know who they are and they do not know who you are. For all other purposes you count towards the town.
green requested his access to the mafia forum be revoked. Go read the ban thread.
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On April 30 2011 12:38 Blue1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 02:19 Protoss1 wrote:On April 29 2011 20:10 Blue1 wrote:
Alright so let's make sense of all of this. From a newbie blue who wants to survive perspective he would have jumped at the opportunity of being protected by the medic. It makes no sense. From a newbie townie that wants to take a hit for the team perspective he would not have revealed his plan before the end of the night. It makes no sense.
Now from a mafia perspective, lets see:
1) Try to survive the day lynch at all costs. Check
2) Being extremely defensive and not posting any content whatsoever. Check
3) Not helping town gather info at all, even after I told him multiple times to do so. Check
4) Not willing to commit to any votes at all and being conserned about looking scummy. Check
5) Not having any reason to be concerned about survival at night time. Saying, I'm just a regular townie, who has no blue powers. Don't mind me if I don't get killed at night. Nothing to be suspicious about. Check
##Vote : Protoss Going to respond to your points generally instead of responding to each one. Points 1-4 I don't see how you're inferring from those "checks" that I'm scum. I have been saying from Post #1 that I am brand new to the game. Wanting to survive/play = scum? Huh? I am not an experienced scum hunter and you're mistaking my inexperience for deliberate deception. As for #5, I never said I wasn't concerned about surviving. As you said, I feel I have made it pretty clear what my allignment/color is. I have never incinuated, "I'm just a regular townie, don't mind me." Please show me where. I didn't want to come out and say "I'M BLUE, PLEASE PROTECT ME LOL" so I tried to be as vague yet helpful as I could. Apparently, mission failed. It seems Green has been caught in a lie, so: ##Vote: Green2 So you are claiming blue without telling us what role you are? How easy is that for mafia to do? please people look at protoss carefully
Man you are paranoid and/or just very wrong. Would you like me to tell you my role and what action I just took? Everything I've read says that's a no-no. I've explained it again and again... on day 1 I felt I was going to get lynched, and the town should not have been lynching me due to my role, so I tried convincing you all without actually saying my role so mafia wouldn't auto-target me that night if I was saved from the lynch.
Why would you try and derail a fairly clearcut green lynch? Yeah yeah, "nice OMGUS." Whatever.
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Now that you have claimed blue, yes, I would like you to tell us your role and the action you took
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That just seems like making the mafia's job even easier to me...
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No. it's not. Now you've claimed blue mafia wants you dead either way. But if you are mafia you are afraid to claim because somebody else could call you out on your bullshit.
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Ok then Mr.Blue, I suppose that makes sense... and I trust you since you're a fellow Townie, right? I'm not worried about losing the lynch vote to Green today, but you're probably right that I'm dead tonight regardless.
I am the Medic, and I healed Orange2 last night. He was one of the only ones who I never got a scum vibe from, and he was an active poster who made a lot of sense with his reasoning/lists.
Since only one person died last night, I wasn't sure if that meant the mafia targeted him for the reasons I listed above and I saved him, or we were correct in lynching Red2 during the day and the mafia only got to kill one person.
I'm guessing I shouldn't be telling everyone this, but hey, you've been the most active in wanting to lynch me. That should convince you... and as a result, everyone else. I have lied exactly zero times during this game. If I die tonight as a result of this post, remember that if nothing else.
Oh, and you might question this post from me when we were discussing who Medic should target:
On April 29 2011 01:41 Blue1 wrote:
##Vote: Use power
I agree with orange's list, but would like to add protoss1 to the medic list. Right now, I feel he's either scum or blue, so if he's not scum he's sure to be dead this night, because he hinted he has an important role in many of his posts.
On April 29 2011 02:08 Protoss1 wrote:
If everyone agrees that I am not scum, I have been saying from the beginning that keeping me in the game is in the best interest of the townies. Early on when it looked like I was going to get lynched I wanted to make it known that I was an important role so if I got off the hook, the scum would have to waste a night killing me anyway.
At this point I had pretty much already revealed that I was blue. I was hoping that the mafia would think I was DT and was essentially asking for the Medic to cover me here. In reality, I was/am the Medic and was hoping the mafia would think a target on me would be wasted since I had "asked" for Medic protection here. Not sure if it worked, but I'm alive thus far.
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It somehow makes sense to me.
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Meta wise, I don't know how much we can get from the green2 lynch. We cannot make any assumptions about why strategically green2 offered himself to the block since we know that he just wanted to die asap.
The only clue we have is this
On April 30 2011 06:43 green2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 06:39 Protoss1 wrote:
Well, care to tell us, Green, or just content to get lynched? I'm more than content being lynched. Based on what I've read so far, it's going to guarantee a win for my side.
I have a small theory on what it means, but first I would like to see who the mafia uses their nightkill on before deciding.
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On May 01 2011 02:52 Terran1 wrote:Meta wise, I don't know how much we can get from the green2 lynch. We cannot make any assumptions about why strategically green2 offered himself to the block since we know that he just wanted to die asap. The only clue we have is this Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 06:43 green2 wrote:On April 30 2011 06:39 Protoss1 wrote:
Well, care to tell us, Green, or just content to get lynched? I'm more than content being lynched. Based on what I've read so far, it's going to guarantee a win for my side. I have a small theory on what it means, but first I would like to see who the mafia uses their nightkill on before deciding.
You are aware we are still in day aren't you? I know you just came into the middle of this I just want to make sure you know where we are time wise.
RoL - Is green2 still in the game? If not is he being replaced?
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I know. But its pretty clear that greeen2 is mafia, and he himself claimed mafia with his goodbye post. It would be foolhardy not to lynch him.
Since the day 2 lynch has been decided, we should use this time to discuss what will happen day 3. The more material in the game the more we can work off of analysiswise. Inactivity kills the town.
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On May 01 2011 03:45 Terran1 wrote:
I know. But its pretty clear that greeen2 is mafia, and he himself claimed mafia with his goodbye post. It would be foolhardy not to lynch him.
Since the day 2 lynch has been decided, we should use this time to discuss what will happen day 3. The more material in the game the more we can work off of analysiswise. Inactivity kills the town.
Are you serious terran? Inactivity kills the town? Where the hell have you been then? You haven't posted 1 single opinion about anything so far. How about you start talking?
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Ok, just read that you've been replaced, sorry bro.
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So, terran I know you just replaced, but now is a good moment for you to start contributing, I dont know how far you've read, but assume that green is a beserk townie for a minute, looking at everything else in the thread, who is your #1 scum read and why? Number #1 town read?
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Also I tentatively belive Protoss1's claim of medic, his internal logic seems to make sense to me, basically if he isn't lying he'll die tonight, which means we can drop discussing him altogether and discuss him tomorrow if he is alive.
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On May 01 2011 03:11 purple2 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 02:52 Terran1 wrote:Meta wise, I don't know how much we can get from the green2 lynch. We cannot make any assumptions about why strategically green2 offered himself to the block since we know that he just wanted to die asap. The only clue we have is this On April 30 2011 06:43 green2 wrote:On April 30 2011 06:39 Protoss1 wrote:
Well, care to tell us, Green, or just content to get lynched? I'm more than content being lynched. Based on what I've read so far, it's going to guarantee a win for my side. I have a small theory on what it means, but first I would like to see who the mafia uses their nightkill on before deciding. You are aware we are still in day aren't you? I know you just came into the middle of this I just want to make sure you know where we are time wise. RoL - Is green2 still in the game? If not is he being replaced?
I never received a message saying he had quit or anything. I will prod him.
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On May 01 2011 07:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 03:11 purple2 wrote:On May 01 2011 02:52 Terran1 wrote:Meta wise, I don't know how much we can get from the green2 lynch. We cannot make any assumptions about why strategically green2 offered himself to the block since we know that he just wanted to die asap. The only clue we have is this On April 30 2011 06:43 green2 wrote:On April 30 2011 06:39 Protoss1 wrote:
Well, care to tell us, Green, or just content to get lynched? I'm more than content being lynched. Based on what I've read so far, it's going to guarantee a win for my side. I have a small theory on what it means, but first I would like to see who the mafia uses their nightkill on before deciding. You are aware we are still in day aren't you? I know you just came into the middle of this I just want to make sure you know where we are time wise. RoL - Is green2 still in the game? If not is he being replaced? I never received a message saying he had quit or anything. I will prod him.
No worries, we are going to lynch him anyway.
As to the rest of the town, if you saw my list of reads on the preivious page, I'd like to see similar lists from people with your thoughts on the other players, who you think the mafia is assuming green is just a deranged townie, etc. We cannot afford to just let the game stall at this point.
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I had my doubts about orange at first, but they've been dispelled for now. Everyone else is still a suspect.
Zerg is suspicious for obvious reasons, if you are town please try harder. Blue gives me the eebly jeeblies though I can't put my finger on why, exactly.
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Blue2's search for blues is disturbing. To say the least.
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On May 01 2011 07:46 purple2 wrote:
Blue2's search for blues is disturbing. To say the least.
Yes, but was it just poor decision making or a deliberate move on the part of the mafia? To me at least it seems like he was trying to oust what he saw as a member of the mafia, do you think he was actually hunting for blues? Or was he working in the interests of the town and just happened to hit a land mine?
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