TL Mafia Idea Factory - Page 42

'...'no using of the word 'fuck' for d2' are acceptable commandments.

On July 27 2014 04:58 The_Templar wrote:
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Yes

Sorry that I didn't clarify very well.

On July 27 2014 04:09 Amiko wrote:
Xatalos - Resistance
I remember reading the Resistance game, I think Koshi was really smart in it! Though they lost. I remember town seemed kinda bitter after the game and they discussed it some here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/297525-resistance-i-london-calling?page=39
There was a good thread discussing the game mechanics some here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440676-resistance-math

I've played Resistance now and then, if it gets hosted I would encourage the hosts to make 'Overheard Conversation' cards very limited or rare in the "deck" because these cards have a much greater effect on the game than most and sometimes the game can be solved with only two or three being drawn by town.
'Keeping a Close Eye on You' is similar, but not as bad because the rules provide that only one player may check a single player's mission card on a round.

On July 27 2014 05:10 Amiko wrote:
Ok I just assumed you were being more open as far as restrictive rules since


Here's some rules I would feel might fit but make the game pretty ugh
- "Everyone with a vote on them today will be lynched."
- "Everyone voting for the lynched person are lynched."
- "Everyone who votes Amiko will be lynched."
- "Everyone voting on their own team at the end of the day will be lynched."

Maybe these rules seem gamebreaking.
What if we replace "Everyone" with "One person chosen at random" - then maybe it doesn't seem gamebreaking
There might be some number in between which is or isn't gamebreaking, but what number that is sort of depends on the day. If this makes two extra people killed D1, it's might be gamebreaking in a different way than if it makes two extra people killed D5.

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Anyway I am only highlighting some concerns I think the idea is still neat.

Here's one way it could be run as a test-case --- I might have the elected mayor pick between 1-3 laws which I provide as host. Only the mayor is informed of the laws* and the new law is announced the following day. That way mafia could choose a law that's bad for town and lie and say that the other laws available for choice were also bad for town. Some days might have more town-favored laws, others mafia-favored laws, others might have both.

For better or worse, this gives the players something to talk about each day (what law the mayor chose).

Another advantage is that then, if mafia players lie about other potential laws, I can steal their law ideas for use in a later game :D

* - Maybe some role could let a player see the laws available for choice, but the elected mayor would be informed.

There's some neat role ideas it give me too-
<> "Consultant" (town/mafia): Can discuss the available laws with the mayor in a QT to argue that one law another should be adopted.
<> "Community Organizer" (town) role who can make the laws publicly disclosed before the mayor is elected.
<> "Private Interest" (town/mafia) role who can eliminate one of the laws available for choice
Or things like that ^^

On July 27 2014 03:58 Amiko wrote:
Glowingbear
I haven't played too many one-day games except one game of one night ultimate werewolf which was pretty fun. So, I'm curious about these ideas! Here's a few quick thoughts-



This sounds interesting, but I'm not sure about the player-adjacency thing-
Since the game is only 1 day, I would expect everyone to instantly claim the players next to them. Is there an reason for mafia to ever lie about who is to their left or right? It seems like this would make an instant CC (giving town a 50/50 vote) so I'm not sure there is any point for the adjacency to be secret.


This could have a lot of permutations which might work - like, does the target town player know he/she is the mafia target?

On August 07 2014 20:10 GlowingBear wrote:


Oh, just saw someone replied to my idea! I'm sorry I'm late lol.

1) the point of keeping it secret is to making it harder for town to put things together. There is no reason for mafia to lie, and they shouldn't. The fun point of this mechanic is that as people know there is always a townie between the two mafia, this will improve the gameplay analysis. Like "yeah, X is acting mafia, but these guys right beside them are totally town. Am I doing this wrong?".
The point of secrecy is only to make things harder for town, but it could be public on day1 post, anyway.

2) No, the town player isn't self aware, unless you want to make the game a little more complex. But if you want, you'll have to put another townies who thinks they are between mafia, but aren't. Because if not, the mafia target only needs to claim he is the target and mafia auto-loses.
The point here is that mafia may get much more aggressive than usual and a day1 mislynch is extremely dangerous. Town will play more cautiously and mafia may play more intensively! When a townie pushes hard, others will think "what does this guy want? I may be lynching the bomb!".

Again, the secrecy of the places people are sitting is not crucial. It just requires town make the circle by themselves, which will give some work.

On August 07 2014 20:40 HaruRH wrote:


We can always modify it. Let's set up a private chat and we can pool our ideas to create the worst mafia game in history

On July 27 2014 09:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Bus Driver Mafia

Everyone is a bus driver. They occupy a location corresponding to their numbered location in the player list. At night they PM the host to bus two integers, e.g. "Swap 8 and 12", or can bus nobody at all. This ability will have a cooldown, say 3 days. Bussing oneself is not allowed.

The order of bussing is chronological. So if Players A, B, C and D occupy positions 1, 2, 3 and 4, respectively, and two actions come in for switching 2 and 3 at 1:30 and switching 3 and 4 at 1:45, players B and C will be switched, making player B occupy 3 and C occupy 2. Then the next order is processed, so B and D will be switched, leaving the final order A-C-D-B.

Roles will include standard stuff (roleblock player, denies that player's bus; check #, will give you the alignment/role but not the target player name) and direct-to-player roles (i.e. Heal (Target), will heal the target regardless of where he is).

On August 14 2014 06:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
Has anybody ever ran a "Secret Ballot" aka PM vote game?

Most of the power roles would likely revolve around revealing and playing with votes since otherwise scum's ability to lie about their votes and last-minute swap and group-vote seems strong but you'd equally have to balance against town attempting to enforce an in-thread vote claiming system.

It's possible it would never end up balanced, and I'm far too lazy to actually host that, but it sounds pretty fun iunno.

On September 15 2014 05:29 The_Templar wrote:
Couldn't everyone just sign their posts?
Like, "I think 5 is mafia. -6"