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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 23:41:43
January 04 2012 23:41 GMT
#761
As town you want to pick people who already appear town or are very likely to put enough effort into the game to make themselves look innocent later. Then even if you pick a spy, you can easily figure out who it is. Pretty obvious, but the second point is important
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2012 23:41 GMT
#762
On January 05 2012 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm actually comfortable with my level of activity. I wish I had argued better against Radfield. I think I was suspicious of why he picked me, then the delayed explanation, then the non-self-vote then he and jackal hammered it home... then the mission failed and I was like "man clearly Radfield has some long convoluted plan to make me the fall guy" and things only went downhill from there. Like, everything I did makes sense if you think that Radfield had no reasonable reason to chose me for his team D1.


But the thing is you were so tunneled in that when he provided a reason (verily, TWO MINUTES after you commented that he had none), you weren't hearing it. You had already made up your mind.

Take it from the tunnel-master...tunneling is bad to the nth.


This guy knows it!
Computer says mafia
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 04 2012 23:41 GMT
#763
Just wanted to provide an outsider's point of view:

In Resistance, one of the most effective ways to gain information is through the voting process. In fact, once the players become more experienced with the game, it is very common to go through multiple leaders each day.

I was going to post some guides before the game began, but no one seemed interested enough.

Also, the pre-emptive voting mechanic worked against town. You should never be comfortable enough to give up your vote so easily.

Anyway, good game everyone and I hope to be able to get selected for the next one.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 04 2012 23:42 GMT
#764
On January 05 2012 08:41 kingjames01 wrote:
Just wanted to provide an outsider's point of view:

In Resistance, one of the most effective ways to gain information is through the voting process. In fact, once the players become more experienced with the game, it is very common to go through multiple leaders each day.

I was going to post some guides before the game began, but no one seemed interested enough.

I was interested! I even posted links to other forum games of Resistance! D:
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 04 2012 23:43 GMT
#765
Sadly, I do know it.

Also I'd like to announce that my last scum game on MafiaScum ended in a perfect scum victory, making me completely undefeated as scum on that site. /flex
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2012 23:43 GMT
#766
mafiascum townies are bad
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 04 2012 23:44 GMT
#767
Yes, it's pretty weird how little attention was given to voting patterns as this game is all about them. Haven't actually looked at voting so not sure how relevant they would have been in this specific game
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2012 23:44 GMT
#768
Well that's it for me. 0:40 am and I'm going to get some sleep now.
Good game guys, next time you should try to be a little more active. I can see how judging people (like zona or jackal) is hard when there's so little information. I don't think scum did well, not at all, but we were able to do whatever we wanted to do, given that nothing was happening.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 04 2012 23:44 GMT
#769
Yeah, I saw that. There weren't any other comments so I thought I wouldn't interfere. It seemed like most players were new and I thought it would be best to just let everyone figure it out. However, if I were in the game and Town, I would definitely have posted! =)
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 04 2012 23:45 GMT
#770
On January 05 2012 08:41 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm actually comfortable with my level of activity. I wish I had argued better against Radfield. I think I was suspicious of why he picked me, then the delayed explanation, then the non-self-vote then he and jackal hammered it home... then the mission failed and I was like "man clearly Radfield has some long convoluted plan to make me the fall guy" and things only went downhill from there. Like, everything I did makes sense if you think that Radfield had no reasonable reason to chose me for his team D1.


But the thing is you were so tunneled in that when he provided a reason (verily, TWO MINUTES after you commented that he had none), you weren't hearing it. You had already made up your mind.

Take it from the tunnel-master...tunneling is bad to the nth.


This guy knows it!


Radfield's accusations of me were all terrible, and the fact that he tunneled me didn't help. I didn't think he had a good reason, and I honestly still don't. It didn't make sense to me that, as a town player, Rad would grab someone who had made a "scumslip" AND be following my pattern BUT not admit it. The fact that he went after me rather than Palmar later on only further convinced me.

Also, I don't know why everyone was obsessed with passing the first team that came by day 1, or that it's scummy not to do so. I saw a team that looked suspicious, so I nayed it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
January 04 2012 23:45 GMT
#771
Toad, sorry for calling you out. I thought I could make the most plausible case against you.

I was trying to keep Palmar as a townie, so it was easier to paint you as scum than VE or greymist.
Carbon FC
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 04 2012 23:45 GMT
#772
MafiaScum VETS are bad. They instill bad habits in the newbs. If MafiaScum vets had HALF the skill of this site's vets, that site would be a lot more fun to play on.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2012 23:46 GMT
#773
On January 05 2012 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 08:41 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm actually comfortable with my level of activity. I wish I had argued better against Radfield. I think I was suspicious of why he picked me, then the delayed explanation, then the non-self-vote then he and jackal hammered it home... then the mission failed and I was like "man clearly Radfield has some long convoluted plan to make me the fall guy" and things only went downhill from there. Like, everything I did makes sense if you think that Radfield had no reasonable reason to chose me for his team D1.


But the thing is you were so tunneled in that when he provided a reason (verily, TWO MINUTES after you commented that he had none), you weren't hearing it. You had already made up your mind.

Take it from the tunnel-master...tunneling is bad to the nth.


This guy knows it!


Radfield's accusations of me were all terrible, and the fact that he tunneled me didn't help. I didn't think he had a good reason, and I honestly still don't. It didn't make sense to me that, as a town player, Rad would grab someone who had made a "scumslip" AND be following my pattern BUT not admit it. The fact that he went after me rather than Palmar later on only further convinced me.

Also, I don't know why everyone was obsessed with passing the first team that came by day 1, or that it's scummy not to do so. I saw a team that looked suspicious, so I nayed it.


You had no valid reason for calling it suspicious, and it included yourself.
Computer says mafia
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 04 2012 23:46 GMT
#774
On January 05 2012 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Well that's it for me. 0:40 am and I'm going to get some sleep now.
Good game guys, next time you should try to be a little more active. I can see how judging people (like zona or jackal) is hard when there's so little information. I don't think scum did well, not at all, but we were able to do whatever we wanted to do, given that nothing was happening.


I have 14 pages of filter in a 38 page game

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 04 2012 23:47 GMT
#775
On January 05 2012 08:46 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:41 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm actually comfortable with my level of activity. I wish I had argued better against Radfield. I think I was suspicious of why he picked me, then the delayed explanation, then the non-self-vote then he and jackal hammered it home... then the mission failed and I was like "man clearly Radfield has some long convoluted plan to make me the fall guy" and things only went downhill from there. Like, everything I did makes sense if you think that Radfield had no reasonable reason to chose me for his team D1.


But the thing is you were so tunneled in that when he provided a reason (verily, TWO MINUTES after you commented that he had none), you weren't hearing it. You had already made up your mind.

Take it from the tunnel-master...tunneling is bad to the nth.


This guy knows it!


Radfield's accusations of me were all terrible, and the fact that he tunneled me didn't help. I didn't think he had a good reason, and I honestly still don't. It didn't make sense to me that, as a town player, Rad would grab someone who had made a "scumslip" AND be following my pattern BUT not admit it. The fact that he went after me rather than Palmar later on only further convinced me.

Also, I don't know why everyone was obsessed with passing the first team that came by day 1, or that it's scummy not to do so. I saw a team that looked suspicious, so I nayed it.


You had no valid reason for calling it suspicious, and it included yourself.


Dude I totally did! The fact that I was wrong about radfield doesn't mean it wasn't a weird way he went about things. In fact, he was suspicious enough that Zona thought he was scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2012 23:49 GMT
#776
On January 05 2012 08:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 08:46 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:41 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm actually comfortable with my level of activity. I wish I had argued better against Radfield. I think I was suspicious of why he picked me, then the delayed explanation, then the non-self-vote then he and jackal hammered it home... then the mission failed and I was like "man clearly Radfield has some long convoluted plan to make me the fall guy" and things only went downhill from there. Like, everything I did makes sense if you think that Radfield had no reasonable reason to chose me for his team D1.


But the thing is you were so tunneled in that when he provided a reason (verily, TWO MINUTES after you commented that he had none), you weren't hearing it. You had already made up your mind.

Take it from the tunnel-master...tunneling is bad to the nth.


This guy knows it!


Radfield's accusations of me were all terrible, and the fact that he tunneled me didn't help. I didn't think he had a good reason, and I honestly still don't. It didn't make sense to me that, as a town player, Rad would grab someone who had made a "scumslip" AND be following my pattern BUT not admit it. The fact that he went after me rather than Palmar later on only further convinced me.

Also, I don't know why everyone was obsessed with passing the first team that came by day 1, or that it's scummy not to do so. I saw a team that looked suspicious, so I nayed it.


You had no valid reason for calling it suspicious, and it included yourself.


Dude I totally did! The fact that I was wrong about radfield doesn't mean it wasn't a weird way he went about things. In fact, he was suspicious enough that Zona thought he was scum.


ok another post from me:
The point is that you did a mistake d1 but that mistake was nothing like a scumslip. It was a mistake like everyone could have done and frankly that's probably even a slight townread unless you know the guy does some mistakes on purpose to look like that because mafia is checking their posts.
You looked like a guy putting some effort in this game and at the same time you looked like a new guy who isn't playing perfectly d1. That's a townie most times.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 04 2012 23:50 GMT
#777
Blaze your reason for suspecting Rad was ludicrous. It was the determining factor in my suspicion of you. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you'll start improving your play.

First of all, there's no information in D1. As a townie, you should be PRAYING to be picked for the night team. PRAYING TO WHATEVER GOD YOU BELIEVE IN. Why? Because as you so accurately (and repeatedly) pointed out: there's a 35% chance of picking a scum for the N1 mission. And if the leader picks you, that number goes down DRASTICALLY, right? To something like 12%? I don't know the math, I'm not a scientist. What I do know is that you nay-voted a team that included you and that was bad. BAD Blaze.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2012 23:52 GMT
#778
On January 05 2012 08:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 08:46 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:41 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 05 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm actually comfortable with my level of activity. I wish I had argued better against Radfield. I think I was suspicious of why he picked me, then the delayed explanation, then the non-self-vote then he and jackal hammered it home... then the mission failed and I was like "man clearly Radfield has some long convoluted plan to make me the fall guy" and things only went downhill from there. Like, everything I did makes sense if you think that Radfield had no reasonable reason to chose me for his team D1.


But the thing is you were so tunneled in that when he provided a reason (verily, TWO MINUTES after you commented that he had none), you weren't hearing it. You had already made up your mind.

Take it from the tunnel-master...tunneling is bad to the nth.


This guy knows it!


Radfield's accusations of me were all terrible, and the fact that he tunneled me didn't help. I didn't think he had a good reason, and I honestly still don't. It didn't make sense to me that, as a town player, Rad would grab someone who had made a "scumslip" AND be following my pattern BUT not admit it. The fact that he went after me rather than Palmar later on only further convinced me.

Also, I don't know why everyone was obsessed with passing the first team that came by day 1, or that it's scummy not to do so. I saw a team that looked suspicious, so I nayed it.


You had no valid reason for calling it suspicious, and it included yourself.


Dude I totally did! The fact that I was wrong about radfield doesn't mean it wasn't a weird way he went about things. In fact, he was suspicious enough that Zona thought he was scum.


Zona was wrong quite a bit this game, and no, until you can prove that something about his teammaking was weird, you don't have a valid reason to oppose it.
Computer says mafia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
January 04 2012 23:53 GMT
#779
On January 05 2012 08:41 kingjames01 wrote:
Just wanted to provide an outsider's point of view:

In Resistance, one of the most effective ways to gain information is through the voting process. In fact, once the players become more experienced with the game, it is very common to go through multiple leaders each day.

I was going to post some guides before the game began, but no one seemed interested enough.

Also, the pre-emptive voting mechanic worked against town. You should never be comfortable enough to give up your vote so easily.

Anyway, good game everyone and I hope to be able to get selected for the next one.

I read a few of those guides
:3
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
January 04 2012 23:53 GMT
#780
Oh, I want to be picked for a night team because the chance of scum for an N1 mission goes from like enormous to small. But something felt off about the way Radfield made his post. If you think the guy who's picking you is scum, IF YOU REALLY THINK THAT, are you still gonna vote yay?

Obviously if I am unsure I will vote nay. But I thought he was scum. There IS information D1, and that's how Radfield picked me. He read me as town. I read him as scum, and so I tried to "unpick" him by voting nay and passing leadership to the next leader.
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