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On January 05 2012 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
I CAN'T BELIEVE WE LOST DUE TO INACTIVITY.
I was pretty active :p
On January 05 2012 08:23 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 08:22 Blazinghand wrote:
OK so Rad was one of those things hte fact that I kept on correcting people's bad math because I thought that was pretty good. Pretty good as a townie trait? Mafia looove to contribute things like that. It gives them something to do without actually commenting on whats going on or who is scum.
yeah I don't know about that. I don't think townies should do that math stuff to begin with. However I don't see a problem in correcting someone when he's wrong about math. Remember that post from Greymist when he said something along the lines "yeah should be about 50% chances" and I explained that it's something like 7% in reality?
I think I'd do that as townie as well.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On January 05 2012 08:24 Blazinghand wrote:
Man but i was fixing stuff! FIXING IT. I averted a potentially disastrous "4 man team who isn't anyone from D1 or D2" strategy
nah, as mafia you have to assume that someone will catch the bad math. And if someone is going to do it it might as well be you(to catch the cred).
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Because you sounded town Blaze, he said that already. Your participation in the thread made you sound very town indeed. It's why I yay'd the team.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Break time for me. Too many mafia games in a row fries my abilities. I have been getting steadily worse for months.... 
GG all.
Thanks a bunch to Forumite and prplhz, I thoroughly enjoyed this despite the three and out. Would definitely play this again.
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
I guess I just assumed everyone thought I was scum after the "mentioned a spy strat" thing.
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Also scum can just pretend to be looking for townies in this setup, always include themselves and be okay. It's pretty easy to even paint own team mates as town. No scum hunting required, at least if town allows that
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That's so wrong. Like, consider the source brah. Remember who said that in the first place?
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On January 05 2012 08:28 syllogism wrote:
Also scum can just pretend to be looking for townies in this setup, always include themselves and be okay. It's pretty easy to even paint own team mates as town. No scum hunting required, at least if town allows that
that's what i tried d1 before my mates decided to bus me
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On January 05 2012 08:28 syllogism wrote:
Also scum can just pretend to be looking for townies in this setup, always include themselves and be okay. It's pretty easy to even paint own team mates as town. No scum hunting required, at least if town allows that
Yeah I was praying to roll scum this game. With no worries about dying, scum have a free hand to do about anything. Like, scum are actually encouraged BY WAY OF SETUP to contribute freely.
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Man even if all the townies voted together in the final election, we didn't have 5 townies. We had VE, GreyMist, myself, and Radfield, and two townies didn't vote: Zona and Jackal.
With 4 town players you can't get a majority of 5.
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On January 05 2012 08:27 Radfield wrote:Break time for me. Too many mafia games in a row fries my abilities. I have been getting steadily worse for months.... GG all. Thanks a bunch to Forumite and prplhz, I thoroughly enjoyed this despite the three and out. Would definitely play this again.
No one had a clue as to who the scum were in this game, shouldn't take it too hard, especially when you don't quite have the time required.
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
I guess one thing with resistance-style games is that elections come and go quickly since new ones can start when 5 nays come up, so you have to preemptively vote based on your reads or check back a lot, or else something like this can happen.
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And with the preemptive voting thing you can coordinate things like "Hey guys, just nay vote until you get to me, look at all these townies I put on my team"
I wish I had been more active in this game.
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When people were arguing about math I just closed the thread and went "whatever".
Radfield's team on day 1 made perfect sense, Blazinghand was being very active, and Radfield and I are both quite easy to figure out. Blazinghand made some "mistakes" that allowed us to push the idea he was the scum in that team.
I wasn't bussing you Toad, I just decided to line myself up opposite you, to try and guarantee victory. Town almost managed to work around it though, mostly thanks to VisceraEyes. But no one actually stepped up to lead town and get things moving so you guys spent too much time mudslinging each other randomly.
I can't claim scum played too well, I think we did okay, but really, my opinion is that the loss is mostly to be blamed on people being unfamiliar with the setup and no one really stepping back to look over what happened in the game. I think the setup is not unbalanced, remember, all it takes is one successful mission and town has 4 very likely town candidates, and scum has to metagame it hard. For example, if tonight's mission would've been a success, town would have instawon if they figured out one more townie for the night 5 mission.
I would play this setup again, I find the no dying mechanic kinda fun!
thanks for hosting mr. hosties.
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
I'm actually comfortable with my level of activity. I wish I had argued better against Radfield. I think I was suspicious of why he picked me, then the delayed explanation, then the non-self-vote then he and jackal hammered it home... then the mission failed and I was like "man clearly Radfield has some long convoluted plan to make me the fall guy" and things only went downhill from there. Like, everything I did makes sense if you think that Radfield had no reasonable reason to chose me for his team D1.
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I don't think you should preemptively vote based on your reads. You guys just surrendered the moment you decided it's a good idea to need 2 or 3 days to get a single leader nayvoted to get the next one. I was the guy pointing out the deadline was at 8:00KST because I thought noone's here. If someone would have thought this trough 24hours earlier you'd still have a chance.
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
I was always very aggressive with my votes. That being said, I actually think we would have STILL been fine, even with this crunch time, if jackal and Zona checked in before the game end deadline.
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On January 05 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm actually comfortable with my level of activity. I wish I had argued better against Radfield. I think I was suspicious of why he picked me, then the delayed explanation, then the non-self-vote then he and jackal hammered it home... then the mission failed and I was like "man clearly Radfield has some long convoluted plan to make me the fall guy" and things only went downhill from there. Like, everything I did makes sense if you think that Radfield had no reasonable reason to chose me for his team D1.
That's crazy though, he picked you, knowing your own alignment, should just roll with it. Remember, Radfield was town, so his idea of picking you cannot possibly be scummy. I'd probably have done something similar in his situation, and it did give town a lot of information, too bad no one actually bothered to extract that information and make it into something useful.
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yeah probably. I got pretty scared the moment I saw VE's town-only team
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On January 05 2012 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm actually comfortable with my level of activity. I wish I had argued better against Radfield. I think I was suspicious of why he picked me, then the delayed explanation, then the non-self-vote then he and jackal hammered it home... then the mission failed and I was like "man clearly Radfield has some long convoluted plan to make me the fall guy" and things only went downhill from there. Like, everything I did makes sense if you think that Radfield had no reasonable reason to chose me for his team D1.
But the thing is you were so tunneled in that when he provided a reason (verily, TWO MINUTES after you commented that he had none), you weren't hearing it. You had already made up your mind.
Take it from the tunnel-master...tunneling is bad to the nth.
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