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AirbladeOrange
United States2574 Posts
Also, Marshal where is this coming from? Why are you hating on me now? Make up your mind whether your going to have my lynched or not because if you are I don't want to vote for you anymore. How can I possibly be more redish than OrigionalName or M0nsterChef? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
What does EBWODP mean? Edit By Way Of Double Post | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On April 12 2011 11:58 AirbladeOrange wrote: What does EBWODP mean? Also, Marshal where is this coming from? Why are you hating on me now? Make up your mind whether your going to have my lynched or not because if you are I don't want to vote for you anymore. How can I possibly be more redish than OrigionalName or M0nsterChef? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180405#1 anyone with any questions regarding definitions of terms please read this. | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
Somehow because GM attracts new players to vote for him it is very unusual and scummy. What I find more scummy is the fact that there are a ton of switch votes towards Dr. H that is making him lead in votes. Like Kavdragon said, Dr. H has said that he would not run for mayor, BUT because he doesn't trust anyone else as mayor other than himself (because that would avoid mafia influence) he ran for mayor. His whole mayor platform is just, "I'm willing to listen to town discussion but if I decide that the town decision doesn't sound right to me, I will lynch whoever I feel is scum. (Even when the majority of the town says the lynch target is not scum) Also, don't blame me if I lynched town because everyone makes mistakes." Yet, he is getting votes purely because of people having a town read on him. I want a townie as Mayor too, but definitely not Dr.H. Having said all this, I'm not saying that Dr. H is scum, I just do not feel comfortable with him being Mayor, especially with all the vote switches onto him. I'm inclined to believe there's at least 1 scum on the list of people that voted for him. These are a few people who decided to switch to him (not complete list of who voted for Dr. H) 13.kevconsim - GM > DocH 16.tnkted - tnkted > DocH > GM (changed vote while I was typing this) 18.urashimakt - Prot > DocH 27.DoctorHelvetica - GM > DocH (lol) 28.darmousseh - GM > DocH 33.redFF - Prot > DocH This list serves no purpose other than for me to keep track of who voted for what, but I decided to share it for those of you who do not do these types of record-keeping. My unwillingness to vote for Dr. H is based on the fact that there are many vote switches for him, as well as the general feelings I get from reading his posts. What I wanted was for GM to be Mayor and Protactinium as Pardoner. I'm not saying the Pardoner is not an important role. I have read about why having scum in this role is not beneficial as it gives reds a free no lynch cycle, but I am still willing to take the risk and offer Prot the position as I feel his abilities and skill can be very beneficial to town, even if he decides to turn against us during the late game. Think about it this way, we have him in the position, he uses his KP and DT checks depending on our decision or we lynch him. Except for his last one to complete his win condition of course. We don't have him in a position and he is forced to use his own judgement and KP that will most likely hit 1 or 2 townies (due to blacks are better off playing townie-like than-scum like). In conclusion, I will place my vote on Protactinium in hopes that he can get the Pardoner position. But the chances are probably very slim because there's less than an hour til Day ends. | ||
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
On April 12 2011 11:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote: green ! = correct I completely agree. However, my reputation as a scum hunter, when combined with the fact that I'm green adds weight to what I was saying earlier, because I am freed from any suspicion. Green = Right intentions. My scum reads right now are Dr.H Protactinium RedFF (Haven't read his defense yet, but I'll try to update this based off of that.) Chaoser (I haven't done analysis on him, so this is just a read.) Oh, and as far as my conspiracy theories go, I don't think that any of them are fully right. I think that at the very least parts of them are. A lot of the time things will just fall into the mafia's hands, and they don't actually try to do them. My reads/analysis on Protact and Dr.H stand. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
Unvoted and voted proct. hoping for some kind of vote switch before day ends... | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 12 2011 12:32 Conversion wrote: Didn't most town want proct as pardoner? Unvoted and voted proct. hoping for some kind of vote switch before day ends... If most of the town wants the assassin as pardoner then they really deserve to lose. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On April 12 2011 12:32 Conversion wrote: Didn't most town want proct as pardoner? Unvoted and voted proct. hoping for some kind of vote switch before day ends... Me and all 2 of my loyal supports will not allow that to happen. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
If we keep having one or two persons say "Dr. H is the lesser of two evils, I'm switching to him" and then one or two persons saying "Dr. H seems scummy, I'm voting GM", all we do is create a balanced platform that gives two shots for red to score a mayor GF, if either one turns out to be red. It may be too late to do anything about it now, but the more that's out in the open now the more we'll have to work with Day 2. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On April 12 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote: If most of the town wants the assassin as pardoner then they really deserve to lose. Now that you know how weak (and even anti-town) the pardoner role is, why do you think that it's a bad deal for town to trade it for two kills and a role check? | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 12 2011 12:39 GGQ wrote: Now that you know how weak (and even anti-town) the pardoner role is, why do you think that it's a bad deal for town to trade it for two kills and a role check? BECAUSE ITS ANTI TOWN if we are going to lynch the last mafia then Protac *has* to use it to by himslef an extra day to hunt out the last assassin If we are in a position to win with a lynch he has to disrupt us so he can still win, *and* we can't afford to lynch him for it | ||
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
##vote: Protactinium | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On April 12 2011 12:41 GMarshal wrote: BECAUSE ITS ANTI TOWN if we are going to lynch the last mafia then Protac *has* to use it to by himslef an extra day to hunt out the last assassin If we are in a position to win with a lynch he has to disrupt us so he can still win, *and* we can't afford to lynch him for it It's apparently a pointless argument. He has less to vote and is pretty much out of time, so he's probably going to be modkilled, not to mention he is way down in the poll. If you're voting for him and want to vote for either GM or DrH instead of nobody, I'd hurry up and switch. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
He has yet to vote - | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 12 2011 12:48 kitaman27 wrote: GMarshal, you should change your lynch candidate to the most scummy person that votes for Protactinium within the next hour. Next 11 minutes you mean? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Day post and voting thread says 1am I believe. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 12 2011 12:41 GMarshal wrote: BECAUSE ITS ANTI TOWN if we are going to lynch the last mafia then Protac *has* to use it to by himslef an extra day to hunt out the last assassin If we are in a position to win with a lynch he has to disrupt us so he can still win, *and* we can't afford to lynch him for it 1) I highly doubt it would get to this point 2) If it got to that point we've already lost if it's like 2 town, 2 assassin, 1 mafia 3) I'd rather have proct be it so that if something like this does happen it's a foreseeable action while if mafia have it it could result in something we can't plan for at all | ||
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