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United States4714 Posts
For now I am changing my vote to DrH. The most important factor for me is that gmarshal doesn't win the election and I think DrH has the best shot at beating him.
The votes surrounding gmarshal are suspicious. Most of the people who voted for him I don't trust (Kavdragon for posting a lot without any analysis I agreed with, Lanaia who has had several different excuses for why she hasn't posted and her only reason for trusting gmarshal is because of how he played previously, Robellicose, kenpachi, Serejai, M0nsterChef who all have posted very little and I don't have much information on, etc.
Also I feel like the odds that DrH and prot are working together is extremely small. I believe prot is an assassin and his analysis seems very good to me, especially concerning the fact that gmarshal has tons of fluff posts and almost no actual pro town analysis. So with this information I feel like DrH is a safer bet to actually be town
Here are a few small reads on people whose posts I looked through.
DrH- Seems to me to likely be a town player. While his reads and plans have changed a lot throughout the game (originally supported gmarshal, didn't want to run for mayor at the start, originally had a strong town read on tnkted, changed the order of which he thought kav should be lynched, etc) most of his changes seem logical and I have agreed with them. I think anyone who is actively looking through the thread for information will have their reads change a lot so this seems more believable to me than someone whose opinion has constantly stayed the same such as gmarshal FOSing mr wiggles the entire game even tho I can't really see anything mr wiggles would have done to warrant the suspicion.
aidnai -No super strong reads other than I agreed with his early criticisms of Drh and seeing him support Drh afterwords despite the criticism seems non mafia to me.
Wiggles- Had the best argument for why revealing the body guards was a bad idea for the town and I liked his reasoning when responding to gmarshal. So I feel hes probably town.
Kitaman- He was the first person to call out M0nsterChef for voting without posting. If M0nsterChef ends up being mafia it means kitaman is almost for sure town.
Lanaia- Gave 2 excuses for why she hasn't been posting much (bad internet and watching movie with bf) also she implied that with school starting tuesday she won't be able to post much so an excuse for future lurking. Along with that both her large posts don't have much content and are just filler without any strong opinions other than she likes gmarshal and assassins are bad.
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Fair enough to keep an eye on me. I understand that my defensiveness towards DrH's pokes wasn't the most town thing to do.
About to go to school now, but can anyone tell me more about DrH's town play? Is he usually as aggressive? I know Barundar posted some things already, but has there been a case where DrH played an aggressive day 1 as townie?
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and if he did, did he stop and try to pass it off as "gathering info" ? I just want to know DrH's town meta before I seriously vote for a candidate
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Finally, people listening to reason. DrH, Protact or kita, i dont care who it is, should be mayor. A day one lynch of OriginalName is a good idea. If he flips red, that means that Gmarshal is likely red, as are the other people who voted for him with little reasoning and leapt to each others defence when i called them out on it. M0nsterChef and AirbladeOrange. If original name flips red then we can also probably pin MiG because ON did a contentless analysis where he named him town. Town has to band together and vote for one of those 3.
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On April 11 2011 20:21 redFF wrote:
Finally, people listening to reason. DrH, Protact or kita, i dont care who it is, should be mayor. A day one lynch of OriginalName is a good idea. If he flips red, that means that Gmarshal is likely red, as are the other people who voted for him with little reasoning and leapt to each others defence when i called them out on it. M0nsterChef and AirbladeOrange. If original name flips red then we can also probably pin MiG because ON did a contentless analysis where he named him town. Town has to band together and vote for one of those 3.
Yo town, when I flip green lynch this dude plz kthxbye.
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On April 11 2011 21:03 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 20:21 redFF wrote:
Finally, people listening to reason. DrH, Protact or kita, i dont care who it is, should be mayor. A day one lynch of OriginalName is a good idea. If he flips red, that means that Gmarshal is likely red, as are the other people who voted for him with little reasoning and leapt to each others defence when i called them out on it. M0nsterChef and AirbladeOrange. If original name flips red then we can also probably pin MiG because ON did a contentless analysis where he named him town. Town has to band together and vote for one of those 3. Yo town, when I flip green lynch this dude plz kthxbye.
And that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm voting for redFF. He wants people to be lynched, been talking alot of trash as well throughout the thread. He's also wanting to urge the townies to vote for one of these three... little bit suspicious if you ask me.
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On April 11 2011 21:18 Milkyst wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 21:03 OriginalName wrote:On April 11 2011 20:21 redFF wrote:
Finally, people listening to reason. DrH, Protact or kita, i dont care who it is, should be mayor. A day one lynch of OriginalName is a good idea. If he flips red, that means that Gmarshal is likely red, as are the other people who voted for him with little reasoning and leapt to each others defence when i called them out on it. M0nsterChef and AirbladeOrange. If original name flips red then we can also probably pin MiG because ON did a contentless analysis where he named him town. Town has to band together and vote for one of those 3. Yo town, when I flip green lynch this dude plz kthxbye. And that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm voting for redFF. He wants people to be lynched, been talking alot of trash as well throughout the thread. He's also wanting to urge the townies to vote for one of these three... little bit suspicious if you ask me.
This is your first post in this thread. We are doing the mayoral vote right now, what are your thoughts on who should be mayor instead of just agreeing with my top scum read on lynching me?
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On April 11 2011 21:03 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 20:21 redFF wrote:
Finally, people listening to reason. DrH, Protact or kita, i dont care who it is, should be mayor. A day one lynch of OriginalName is a good idea. If he flips red, that means that Gmarshal is likely red, as are the other people who voted for him with little reasoning and leapt to each others defence when i called them out on it. M0nsterChef and AirbladeOrange. If original name flips red then we can also probably pin MiG because ON did a contentless analysis where he named him town. Town has to band together and vote for one of those 3. Yo town, when I flip green lynch this dude plz kthxbye.
Nice defense instead of arguing your case.
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On April 11 2011 21:18 Milkyst wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 21:03 OriginalName wrote:On April 11 2011 20:21 redFF wrote:
Finally, people listening to reason. DrH, Protact or kita, i dont care who it is, should be mayor. A day one lynch of OriginalName is a good idea. If he flips red, that means that Gmarshal is likely red, as are the other people who voted for him with little reasoning and leapt to each others defence when i called them out on it. M0nsterChef and AirbladeOrange. If original name flips red then we can also probably pin MiG because ON did a contentless analysis where he named him town. Town has to band together and vote for one of those 3. Yo town, when I flip green lynch this dude plz kthxbye. And that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm voting for redFF. He wants people to be lynched, been talking alot of trash as well throughout the thread. He's also wanting to urge the townies to vote for one of these three... little bit suspicious if you ask me.
EBWOP
Thankyou for your endorsement of my non-existant mayoral campaign.
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United States22154 Posts
First of all, let me say that those of you saying that you aren't voting for me because I have votes are being silly, but w/e. I'm playing to my usual town abilities, and while I may not be the best I assure you I am town. While you guys may find my PbP analysis of wiggles, lackluster, im at least trying to find scum. Also those of you linking me to ON and M0nsterChef are being stupid, they voted for me, for who knows what reason. I'm willing to lynch ON on the provided analysis, since it seems solid and he fits the description of the type of lurkers I seek to punish.
If he flips red you can feel free to scrutinize the hell out of me. If he flips green, well then I expect you to reconsider the intelligence of voting Protactinium for anything at all, although by then if the town has been foolish enough to vote him in it will be too late.
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United States4714 Posts
It's pretty shitty for me that the one person to look at my posts and decide that I was probably green suddenly became #1 on everyone's lynch list. It's definitely a lose lose for me. If he flips green it doesn't clear me and if he flips red I am going to be targeted super hard.
Personally I do think there's a good chance ON is green but I only say that because I know I am green. If ON is red I don't really know what motivation he would have for saying I am green when he can easily just analyze me as red and most people will agree with him.
Also this is the same situation for you GMarshal. If ON flipped green I don't think it would clear you of being a red at all. Especially since you said you would be fine lynching him and if you were both reds then that seems kind of suicidal.
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If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips.
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United States22154 Posts
Also Protac you seem pretty adamant that getting Dr.H elected over me is a better choice, because I am "failing to provide analysis" yet I notice that most of Dr.H's reads have been on "gut" rather than actually backed up by evidence.
You seem to be getting a little desperate, afraid to die perhaps? At this point nothing you say should have any credibility since you now *have* to get elected to win and you are going to promise us the moon and the entire scum team if we just shield you. Your actually make Kav's theory that you and Dr.H might be scum together a little credible...not that I believe it, you are clearly the assassin and just desperate to make your gambit pay off.
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On April 11 2011 21:18 Milkyst wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 21:03 OriginalName wrote:On April 11 2011 20:21 redFF wrote:
Finally, people listening to reason. DrH, Protact or kita, i dont care who it is, should be mayor. A day one lynch of OriginalName is a good idea. If he flips red, that means that Gmarshal is likely red, as are the other people who voted for him with little reasoning and leapt to each others defence when i called them out on it. M0nsterChef and AirbladeOrange. If original name flips red then we can also probably pin MiG because ON did a contentless analysis where he named him town. Town has to band together and vote for one of those 3. Yo town, when I flip green lynch this dude plz kthxbye. And that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm voting for redFF. He wants people to be lynched, been talking alot of trash as well throughout the thread. He's also wanting to urge the townies to vote for one of these three... little bit suspicious if you ask me.
Since DocH doesn't appear to be here atm I'll pick up the slack for him.
Wtf are you smoking????? I suggest you invest an hour and begin reading from BB's OP to right here.
Then stop and reevaluate what you just posted.
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United States4714 Posts
On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips.
I disagree that if ON flips red it instantly confirms everyone as red. I say this once again because I know I am green. If he flips red I am probably going to be the next person lynched and then when I flip green you will be back to being uncertain about what everyone is.
At the same time if he flips green it really doesn't clear anyone because like I said Gmarshal has already said hes fine lynching ON which he can easily say if hes red but I doubt he would ever say if they were both red.
Finally I don't think if he flipped green it would even make you look that red. To me you don't really come off as red you just come as an overzealous green who views everything as black/white instead of realizing the situation probably isn't so clear cut.
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On April 11 2011 22:13 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips. I disagree that if ON flips red it instantly confirms everyone as red. I say this once again because I know I am green. If he flips red I am probably going to be the next person lynched and then when I flip green you will be back to being uncertain about what everyone is. At the same time if he flips green it really doesn't clear anyone because like I said Gmarshal has already said hes fine lynching ON which he can easily say if hes red but I doubt he would ever say if they were both red. Finally I don't think if he flipped green it would even make you look that red. To me you don't really come off as red you just come as an overzealous green who views everything as black/white instead of realizing the situation probably isn't so clear cut.
I wouldn't want you lynched next, the fact that you changed your vote to DrH means im going to have to re-read all your posts. I would probably have a lynch of M0nsterChef day2 if ON flips red and a check on GM.
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On April 11 2011 21:48 GMarshal wrote:
First of all, let me say that those of you saying that you aren't voting for me because I have votes are being silly, but w/e. I'm playing to my usual town abilities, and while I may not be the best I assure you I am town. While you guys may find my PbP analysis of wiggles, lackluster, im at least trying to find scum. Also those of you linking me to ON and M0nsterChef are being stupid, they voted for me, for who knows what reason. I'm willing to lynch ON on the provided analysis, since it seems solid and he fits the description of the type of lurkers I seek to punish.
If he flips red you can feel free to scrutinize the hell out of me. If he flips green, well then I expect you to reconsider the intelligence of voting Protactinium for anything at all, although by then if the town has been foolish enough to vote him in it will be too late.
Would you be willing to lynch M0nsterChef as well? Interesting... Why ON but not M0nsterChef?
On April 11 2011 22:01 Mig wrote:
It's pretty shitty for me that the one person to look at my posts and decide that I was probably green suddenly became #1 on everyone's lynch list. It's definitely a lose lose for me. If he flips green it doesn't clear me and if he flips red I am going to be targeted super hard.
Personally I do think there's a good chance ON is green but I only say that because I know I am green. If ON is red I don't really know what motivation he would have for saying I am green when he can easily just analyze me as red and most people will agree with him.
Also this is the same situation for you GMarshal. If ON flipped green I don't think it would clear you of being a red at all. Especially since you said you would be fine lynching him and if you were both reds then that seems kind of suicidal.
how do you know that anyone is green? The game just started... no actions have been done by any blues, so no one know what anyone else's alignment is.
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On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips.
Actually, Protract is the one that would give us the most information. ON is nowhere near a threat right now. Meanwhile, I am convinced that DrH is a horrible candidate for mayor. How many of the people that disagree with him has he targeted for a lynch? So far he's accused myself, Kav, Kita, and Potract of being scum. The only one he doesn't think is scum is GM and he's been taking Protract and other people's arguements to support that. He isn't running on a platform of substance, just one of accusing all the other candidates of scumming.
And lynching ON won't clear up anything. Maybe he was just acting like he disagreed with you to prove that you're actually green when you're read? You have know idea exactly how devious the mafia can act in this game. Lynching ON won't prove anyone's greenness other than ONs.
You need to be extremely careful with bandwagoning in this game. If nobody is disagreeing with you it means that mafia likes your idea, or is laying low because its late game and there are 6 people alive.
Do not be sheep, newbies.
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On April 11 2011 22:15 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 22:13 Mig wrote:On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips. I disagree that if ON flips red it instantly confirms everyone as red. I say this once again because I know I am green. If he flips red I am probably going to be the next person lynched and then when I flip green you will be back to being uncertain about what everyone is. At the same time if he flips green it really doesn't clear anyone because like I said Gmarshal has already said hes fine lynching ON which he can easily say if hes red but I doubt he would ever say if they were both red. Finally I don't think if he flipped green it would even make you look that red. To me you don't really come off as red you just come as an overzealous green who views everything as black/white instead of realizing the situation probably isn't so clear cut. I wouldn't want you lynched next, the fact that you changed your vote to DrH means im going to have to re-read all your posts. I would probably have a lynch of M0nsterChef day2 if ON flips red and a check on GM.
*facepalm*
Mafia wants to act like town you know. It is very easy for them to vote for somebody pro-town in an attempt to fit in. MiB changing is vote doesn't prove anything.
What proves his greenness, IMO, its his response to DrHs tunneling. He's been playing more like a shy newbie green forced out into the open by DrH than a scum. If he was scum he'd being coached by the more experienced mafia members on his team, and he'd be posting small helpful little bits of content and trying to stay under the radar, which isn't particularly hard in this shitstorm of a thread. There are several newbies that match that description already.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On April 09 2011 13:36 DropBear wrote:
/confirm
My life for the town!
On April 10 2011 00:16 redFF wrote:
Hey guys i'm town
I'm always weary of people who find it necessary to post that they are town.
Inactives that should know better:
Lemon-Still hasn't posted. Playing pokemon instead.
Tackster-Zero posts
Rean-Only two posts, both re guarding assassins.
GGQ- Supports prot, no posts in over 25 pages
ilovejohn- sick 
DarthThienAn - Quotes one of Kav's newbie posts to tell us that he agrees and then proceeds to vote for pandain, the fake dt claim.
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