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My Case for Bumatlarge:
On January 22 2011 01:35 bumatlarge wrote:Please don't kill me first, mafia town, just cause I'm an easy-read. 
Post analysis:
On January 23 2011 14:56 bumatlarge wrote: It's better to have a good player as mayor regardless of alignment then someone who you know might be prone to mistakes. Lol, wut? So it would be better to have a really good player who is scum in the mayor seat, than a bad townie?
On January 26 2011 08:12 bumatlarge wrote: A scum mayor is the worst scenario by far, regardless of anything else. This means we will never get information on town numbers. False-claims will be rampant, and it will turn into a clue-crapshoot. I want to avoid this at all cost. For this reason, I believe one of RoL or Kav is scum. It's just way to strong an opportunity to pass up. If we are luky, dr.H was the mafia claim, but seeing as how he had relatively no votes, I don't think this is a viable outcome to put your hopes in.
I feel we should RNG our mayor :/ as right now we have a 50% shot at picking a scum mayor, or we can take a <25% chance at one. I'd like to hear thoughts. ...
Contradicts his earlier statement. He says that he doesn't want a clue-crapshoot, but the only way to avoid this is analysis, something that he hasn't done any of. Says he doesn't want a crap shoot, but wants to RNG the mayor. He says that RoL OR Kav is scum, but is unwilling to do an analysis of the two of us. Just two people. This game is based off of analysis, not probability.
On January 23 2011 15:44 bumatlarge wrote:Well. I've quickly scanned through Mercmafia and BCE, and I like what I see. Very active townie who takes care in what he says. He'd probably assume a DarthThienMayor persona if he is scum. Not very flexible, but hard to get rid of. Just need to keep an eye on him. All in all, a very capable mayor. He has my vote.
On January 25 2011 12:52 bumatlarge wrote: Gonna put my vote on kav, and if he can spot a few more clues on different folks and finalize his statement on picking BG's, my vote is staying there. Very confident in me as mayor.
On January 26 2011 08:12 bumatlarge wrote: I believe one of RoL or Kav is scum.
On January 26 2011 09:13 bumatlarge wrote: I never said either of the candidates was pretty pro-town Changes his opinion without saying why. Why would he so confidantly vote for someone he didn't think was town?
On January 26 2011 08:37 bumatlarge wrote: Let's just see how many people do it. Current number is 3, and numbers don't count after 8:00 est which is in 1&1/2 hours. GMarshal will be our mayor! :D Starts a concerted push for RNG'ing the mayor. As has been pointed out before it's a terrible plan that is very easily influenced by the mafia. He also starts this with 1.5 hours before the end of the day.
On January 26 2011 11:00 bumatlarge wrote: The RNG plan isn't too great with only a few hours left and it was mostly just a thought in response to the situation Backs out of his plan, and tries to dismiss it as only an idea. This was not the feeling I got from the posts, and judging by the fact that BB followed along, I'd say that he got the same message from Bum.
On January 26 2011 11:00 bumatlarge wrote: lol...? Do you realize how strong mayor is? Do you honestly think scum wouldn't try to have someone run? If I was in your shoes as town, RoL would be pretty fishing looking. And you aren't, which says something about you. Now I really hope you don't get mayor if this is actually how you think things through. Killing the only person who says you might be red is not the way to go. This is the core of your argument. (bolded) You are basing your argument off of something that may or may not be true. Sound familiar?
On January 23 2011 11:03 LSB wrote: [*]WIFOM: Wine in Front of Me. Used to point out reasoning based on assumptions that may or may not be true. For example, Mafia would want to kill LSB. Therefore since LSB isn’t dead, he’s mafia.
Also, from what I've gathered from other games, the typical meta from mafia recently has been "Lie back and let the town destroy itelf" not "Activly engage the town". But this is wifom too.
Diagnosis
This looks like scummy play to me. Perhaps overly scummy, but this could be explained: This game has no flipping, which means that the mafia do not need to worry about being dissasociated with eachother as much. If Bum and BB are scum, they don't need to worry about agreeing with eachother, because if one of them flips, the town still knows nothing about their alignment. This could very easily make a mafia more cocky, and forward with their posting. Conclusion: Bumatlarge is scum.
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The following players have very low post counts. I want to see this change. (Note: These posts include all posts before, and after the start of the game. Including the /in post) Papapanda: 5 Coagulation: 4 Tube: 2 Mr.Zergling: 6 Eti307: 2 TheAldo: 6 Impervious: 6 Divinek: 2
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On January 26 2011 16:03 LunarDestiny wrote: When I say "took out," I meant take him out of the list of suspects because Coag acts like this every game.
Sorry, didn't mean this as a suspect list, just as a list of people who need to post more.
On January 26 2011 19:54 CubEdIn wrote: Kav, why Beneather? I get GMarshal, but what was your reasoning for the second BG pick? I think it's important that we know, and I didn't see an explanation or him volunteering. I might have missed it, in which case I'm sorry, but I do believe it's crucial information.
Beneather was the first inactive I found through random clicking on the signup list. Not the optimal selection process, but I had about 60 sec to pick.
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On January 27 2011 02:25 darmousseh wrote: Without any clues it's kinda boring right now. This game is about analyzing, and clues are an addition to that. Don't think that the town can win this on clues, cause it can't. We need everyone to step up and analyze others. This includes you.
Also, the first post contained "a whole batch of clues". I don't know for certain that they point to more than one person, but I would be very surprised if they didn't. That first post can still be analysed for clues pointing to others. It's still possible that ON wasn't hinted at for all we know..
On January 27 2011 03:08 bumatlarge wrote: I suggest we put our coins in kavs korner. Meds should prot the BGs, as it gives us the best shot at winning for now. ill be around later to go more in depth and answer questions. I dislike this idea, and not because I think you're scummy. Medics shouldn't be given a strong direction for who to heal. The obvious choices are people who look very town, and BG's. But if we decide who they should heal, the mafia won't have to.
So my advice is to protect whoever you think needs protecting. Make the mafia go into circles of wifom about who they should or shouldn't attack, and chances are they'll ignore both.
On January 26 2011 22:51 BrownBear wrote: To be fair, I didn't "go along with it" for a long time. I posted one post being like "eh, whatever, here's a number", then was away for the rest of the day. Hope that answers your questions. Meh. Like I said, I was just confuse by the play.
On January 27 2011 00:02 CubEdIn wrote: I was asking because you soon after made a strong point about bumatlarge. I'm not denying that bumatlarge seemed scummy, I even said so earlier on, but it looked odd, considering you had power over the first lynch, AND you would like Mafia as BGs, that you neither killed or picked bum as a BG, and instead made a case against him so the town have to use a lynch. The reason that I killed ON was because I said I would. If I had changed that at the last second, people wouldn't have liked it. The easiest way for the mafia to kill me is to get me lynched, and I'd hate to give them a reason to push for that. I considered making the my BG's, but kitaman had previously said that BB as BG was a bad idea, and I didn't want to change how I chose the BG's last second. If you look, I did try to see if the town would let me lynch Bum instead, but not enough people checked in before it happened, so i stuck with the choice that everyone agreed with.
@Bum: I've read your defense, and to be honest don't believe yet, but i'm not your judge, the town is. They will decide if it's believable or not. I would like you to explain the first half of my analysis though, as it had nothing to do with the RNG mayor posts.
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Bum: I don't want to get totally sidetracked onto JUST analyzing you, but here are a few responses to your defense.
I disagree with your statement that a good mafia player being mayor is better than a bad townie. Sure you might be able to catch a good player, but a bad townie wouldn't deliberately mislead the town. We would still get information, and the mafia wouldn't. That's pretty obvious to me.
You argue that mafia couldn't pass up a role like mayor. You yourself didn't realize how powerful it was till late in the game.
At the time you brought this up, there were only two candidates. If one was scum, and one wasn't, why would you not analyze them, and vote for the one you thought was town? Why don't you analyze us now?
The fact that you voted for me, before switching to RoL shows clearly that you didn't have any opinion about which of us looked more town. That's EXACTLY the type of mindset mafia are in. They know who is, and is not a mafia, so they don't need to form opinions about how scummy people are, or are not.
Also, that last statement was not directed at you specifically, it was a possibility of general mafia play this game.
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Rest in peace brother Meapak_Ziph. See you in another life.
In other news, I've been informed that there are 5 mafia.
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I'll make a longer post on this, but I'm pretty sure that TheAldo was an SK hit. It makes no sense for the mafia to hit him, and some sense for an SK who wants to sit this out till he can figure out who is winning.
Btw, people seem to think that SK would be willing to ally with the town. Very unlikely. The only way they die is lynch, so they have nothing to fear from mafia, and everything to fear from town. We are their biggest threat, so they will more likely sit on the side till one side gains the upper hand, or try to snipe townies.
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For the record, i will not support lynches based solely off of clues unless the case is so overwhelmingly good that no one can deny it. Every person who has a possible clue should be analyzed in addition. That being said, nice job with the clues. I'm still writing up a response to something Impervious said, but will start on the clue as soon as that's done.
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Dear Impervious:
WTF?:
On January 24 2011 22:51 Impervious wrote: I'm gonna have to vote for RebirthOfLeGenD. Unexplained vote on RoL
This was followed by him lurking(self described, not just my opinion) till he made these posts:
Thing is, if you're mafia, then you'd also know who else is mafia, and could pick someone who seems to be playing a little wierd, single them out, and lead a lynch. Maybe, but If I'm town I'd be doing the exact same thing: looking for a scummy person and leading the town through example by analyzing him.
With this game's setup, since it's impossible for us to directly know if it was a mafia that was killed or not, or if the info from the census ability is actually legit, Yes, you are correct that it is impossible to know with absolute certainty that i am town or that the information that I give is correct. This is true of any game. trying to single a non-mafia out for an obvious lynch right now is exactly what a mafia mayor would try to do. Wrong. A mafia mayor would try to mislead the town down an unfruitful path, not encourage them to do actual analysis. Most mafia stay away from analysis because it's hard to write an argument against someone you know is innocent. And a mafia candidate would be able to get more votes, on average, because they could get votes from other mafia players to secure themselves in the position. Kind-of-sort-of but not really. The town does not split the votes 50/50 between candidates. One will look like a better choice to most, and the majority of the town will vote for that one. While yes, a single player would get more votes as mafia given the exact same campain and posts, it's NOT true that on average mafia mayors get more votes than town mayors.
Tbh, I say we start lynching ppl who voted for Kavdragon, for that reason. I mean, it's technically possible that RoL is a mafia, and a bunch of people who voted for him were mafia (myself included, obviously), but, statistically speaking, if a candidate was a mafia, they'd be the one to win the election more often. At least, if the mafia actually played well. WTF? You say that a mafia mayor would get more votes because mafia would vote for him. Then based off that, you say that we should lynch people who voted for me? You are calling me scum?( If I'm not scum, why would scum vote for me? If scum didn't vote for me, why lynch people who voted for me?) Lemme get this straight: You think that I'm mafia because i won. LOL. By your logic we should always lynch the mayor! Just because the mafia can stack a few votes on their candidate doesn't mean that they will win every time.
And, if neither were mafia, then it'd be purely random anyways (obviously, we'll try to look at people who seem more suspicious as primary targets, to increase our chances), and for the first couple of days, wouldn't be a bad move. At least until we can get some better information. Same deal if both were mafia (highly unlikely, but possible). Wait, so you're advocating that we RNG the lynch? We have 30 pages of information, and I don't see you using any of it.
Since I'm worried about our mayor being a mafia atm, I'd rather hear some other people's ideas as to what we should be doing. Lol, "worried". If you're so worried, why don't you analyze me! Put some money where your mouth is, and start actually contributing. (And don't say there's not enough information to analyze me, I've posted twice as much as almost anyone. There's TONS of material to pick from)
Look at it this way - I'll assume there's 4 mafia (possibly more, but this is a very conservative estimate). Without the mafia votes, it should break even, roughly (assuming both are going to get 50% of the votes). Wrong. Why do you think that town would split 50/50?
Kavdragon got 18 votes, RoL got 11. If Kavdragon is mafia, and had the support of all 3 other mafia members, that would mean that the town voted 15:11 in favor of Kavdragon. A little lopsided, but still close. He recieved a little under 60% of the votes, which is definitely reasonable, because both players had a strong platform.
If RoL is mafia, and had support from the other 3 members, then the votes would have been 18:8. That's around 70% voting for Kavdragon. Much further off.
If there are more mafia players, it would look closer to a 50/50 split for Kavdragon if he was mafia, yet look worse for RoL if he was mafia. Look, Analysis trumps statistics every time. If this game could be won with stats, it would be played with a calculator in math club. It's not. It's an analysis game.
At the moment, we don't have much to go by. One thing we do have is who voted for who (not everyone has been talkative, and it seems that it's backfired on the people who have). I do agree that we don't have enough to go by for a solid case aganst any one player, including our mayor and runner-up, based on what they've said so far in the game. Which is why I think that looking at it from a statistical point of view may be our best option at the moment. Oh good lord, this makes me sad. no, no, and no. Who did this backfire against? Bum? He was certainly not the most vocal person. Is this an attempt to scare people into being quiet? Here, let me speak your language: Statistically speaking, more than half the players are town. This means that statistically speaking, if we lynch someone, they are town. You're not even getting the statistics right either. Show me why the town is likely to split 50/50.
Please, we have been extremely fortunet to have so much information to go on for the first day. The mafia will try to discourage us from doing analysis, saying "there's not enough information to go by" or "It's day one, nothing's happened". This is exactly the kind of complacency that gets the town killed. So far I'm the only person doing analysis. This too, is a sure road to failure. As RoL said, leaving the work of the town to one person will end in a loss for the town. I won't be right about every lynch, the town needs to work too. Clues are a good start, but we cannot win based off of clues.
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On January 27 2011 13:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I was roleblocked last night.
Anyone going to counterclaim? Not that there can't be two role blockers, but it does make things more interesting. (Actually, Has anyone seen a setup with 2 role blockers?)
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On January 27 2011 13:18 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 13:12 Kavdragon wrote:On January 27 2011 13:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I was roleblocked last night. Anyone going to counterclaim? Not that there can't be two role blockers, but it does make things more interesting. (Actually, Has anyone seen a setup with 2 role blockers?) Doesn't really clear him either way. A day one team roleblock to give credibility to their failed mayoral candidate is not out of the question. If you think about it, if RoL was town, giving one of the two mayoral candidates a sense of credibility would be one of the last things the mafia would want to do.
On January 27 2011 13:20 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 13:12 Kavdragon wrote:On January 27 2011 13:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I was roleblocked last night. Anyone going to counterclaim? Not that there can't be two role blockers, but it does make things more interesting. (Actually, Has anyone seen a setup with 2 role blockers?) We know a RB is in the game, and I doubt there would be 2. I'm sure RB can refrain from using there ability. If RoL is mafia, I don't see how this would help him, as you should give RB a shot, and this doesn't confirm much about him.
Agreed. It doesn't clear him. I was just wondering if anybody would, for the sake of getting more information.
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I would encourage everyone to take a gander at Mini mafia IV. You can get a good idea of the play styles of Many players in this game, including GMarshal and Nemesis.
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These clues are a bit easier than the ones that will be found in normal day posts. Please note that the hosts said the night 0 clues were easier than the rest would be.
There will be a clue in the day post for each person who died. For example, if 15 people suddenly died, there would be 15 clues. However how someone died may or may not be a clue. Note that last line. Nemesis, clues can be found anywhere. Meapak's death could contain both or non of the clues.
On January 27 2011 11:39 LunarDestiny wrote: And then the flash of steel from real guns
From Nemesis:
Also a Flash fan
This is by far the most compelling clue I've found thus far. It's not quite as obvious as duct tape, but it's in a very similar form.
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I've had my theories for a while now, but I didn't want to send the town off on a pointless discussion. In light of recent events, however, i think that it may help differentiate the story from the clues. What follows is what I believe to be the story that we are living out:
+ Show Spoiler [Night 0] +On January 23 2011 11:00 Node wrote:Night 0 “Eureka!” Node exclaimed. “Igor! Look at this!” “My name is LSB...” “Whatever” Node replied, “Igor! I created a monster!” “It’s just a vial of black liquid. Sure doesn't seem that monstrous...” “Its not any ordinary liquid! Come, take a sip!” “That seems like a startlingly bad idea.” LSB cautiously replied. “Do you want to be paid or not?” Grudgingly, LSB took what barely qualified as a sip. Almost as soon as the dribble of fluid passed his lips, he collapsed onto the floor, limbs twitching. Minutes later he awoke to a glint of steel inches from his face. “What... hey... what are you doing with that knife???” LSB screamed. “Don’t worry, I’m just going to prick you to... uhh... test your blood.” Node coolly replied. And out the blood flew. Black as night, black as blindfolds, black as... blood. The experiment was a success.
Later, while cleaning up his latest dispensable assistant, Node heard the thumping of loud music from outside his laboratory. “...the hell? That sounds like... Spoon?” I’m writing this to you in reverseSuddenly a man strolled into the room carrying a stereo. “Imbecile! What are you doing in here?!” Node cowered against his precious machines and experiments. Someone better call a hearse“We have need of your research. We will be taking it.” Node started screaming. “Oh, hush.” And the man turned up the stereo. Now the light bulb’s gone onThe man grabbed the vial from the hands of the scientist and uncorked it. I’m not standing hereHe wrapped his palm around Node’s throat, letting only gurgling, gasping sounds of struggle escape. The man tipped the vial, and a single drop of the viscous fluid fell into its creator’s mouth. And there’s nothing thereAs the scientist’s struggle decreased, the intruder pulled a small, serrated switchblade from his pocket. He pressed it against Node’s throat and sawed. I've seen it in your eyesThe results were consistent. The man stepped back, and studied the results of his work. He grinned. “Perfect.” I can see you blankly stare
The police arrived the next morning. Amidst the caution tape and penlights, were the two scientists. LSB and Node were bound with duct tape, throats slit. The strangest expression on their faces. A mad, wide grin. The blood, coursing from their necks to the floor, ran jet black... Node is dead. LSB is dead. ??? the Assassin is missing. This is the intro to our story, the "before we arrived" scene, appropriately placed before we could start doing much. In it the scientist Node creates a black liquid which he calls "a monster". Known effects of the liquid: "LSB took what barely qualified as a sip" It takes a very small amount to do it's work. "he collapsed onto the floor, limbs twitching." It causes a temporary loss of control to motor functions. "Minutes later he awoke" Knocks the victim out for a few minutes, after which he seems to be just fine. "And out the blood flew. Black as night," Causes the blood to turn black.
+ Show Spoiler [Day 1] +On January 24 2011 11:01 Node wrote:Day 1 Cue the clash of lightning. Play the roar of thunder. And make sure there is a shower of rain. It was just a movie scene, just something from a scary film. A bad dream. This couldn’t be happening. I should explain. Oh, how I've tried to get you out of my head. We all first met at a party in Florida. A ‘pre-sailing’ party as they said. We all applied to start a colony on an unnamed island in the Caribbeans. We were going to be heroes, the founders of a city, the explorers of the modern age. And I lied, broken words I said. As the host brought around the drinks, as the the crowd crescendos with laughter, as the band broke out into another song... I felt something was wrong. Did the lights in the ceiling just black out? Are those black shapes in the alcove bats? Is that shadow in the corner a black cat? Never thought I'd walk on this street again. I should have known that this voyaged was cursed with bad luck from the start. Standing where it all began.
A piercing scream woke us up. Where am I? What’s happening? The last thing I remember... our glasses raised, filled with dark red wine, the color of blood... a toast, a sip... A scuffle and gun shots snapped me to the present. We dove, crawled, or pulled ourselves to the nearest cover. A gurgling, gory, throaty sound forced me to see what was happening. It was outside, our ship’s nurse Korynne was on the ground, hand clutching her slit throat, black blood gurgling onto the ground. Behind her, a man dressed completely in black, knife clutched in his hand, a hole in his head. Our captain, Foolishness stowed away his gun, fell to his knees and clutched the nurse’s head. I listened as in between sobs he choked out what happened “The man... the man was following the nurse. I... You must avenge her death. He is not alone... I will be their next target. They will come after me next and… Mi Dio!” + Show Spoiler +I picked up the dropped switchblade, pressed it to the captains throat, and sawed. Korynne has died.Qatol has died.Foolishness has died. + Show Spoiler [Clues in the Night 0 post] +Note, this was the clue in the story LSB and Node were bound with duct tape This points to Qatol. "Guns make you stupid. Better to fight your wars with duct tape. Duct tape makes you smart." -Burn Notice This is in Qatol’s profile. In addition. There was a red herring in this story “...the hell? That sounds like... Spoon?” Spoon is an indie rock band. It says in Node’s profile that he listens to indie rock. Therefore, the clue points to him. There will not be many intentional red herrings, but as the stories become more detailed, there may be some. For example the intruder pulled a small, serrated switchblade from his pocket. He pressed it against Node’s throat and sawed Was not an intentional red herring, but it could possibly pointed to someone. These clues are a bit easier than the ones that will be found in normal day posts. There are no clues in this spoiler Day 1 has started. Please elect your mayor. Day one is where we come in. We apparently signed up for this colonization mission, and were treated to a party. The host brings around the drinks, and then the person in the story starts seeing things, black things, he knows something is wrong. I believe that the host of the party is part of the same group of people who sent the assassin to get Node's black liquid, and he put some of that liquid in the drinks. It only takes a small amount, so it wouldn't be hard to mask in another drink, and it's right after this that the person in the story starts seeing things. Further evidence that everyone has been exposed to this liquid is shown in that the Korynne and Qatol both had black blood. It doesn't say what color Foolishness's blood was, but I think that it's safe to assume that he has it too. (Of special note here: Qatol was the one who stole it, and is presumably aligned with the host of the party. This would indicate that the liquid has some desirable effects, or that Qatol was betrayed by his own people.)
+ Show Spoiler [Night 1] +On January 26 2011 11:07 Node wrote:Night 1 Sometimes I get overchargedAnd as the voices roared, as the crowd cheered, Kavdragon stood up on stage and flashed the peace sign. That's when you see sparks“I understand that times are hard. I understand that you are afraid. But follow my lead, and I will guide us through. For my first act as mayor... allow me to welcome my two closest friends and compatriots as my protectors. I entrust my life to these individuals.” And he summoned to the stage GMarshal and Beneather. You ask me where the hell I'm going“For my second act as mayor...” As the jaws gnashed, as the mob fought, GMarshal and Beneather brought up the struggling OriginalName and held him down while Kavdragon tied the metal noose around his head. And hung him. At a thousand feet per secondIron choking, biting, hurting. Black blood dripped out, dancing onto the floor below. Some cheered. Others hung their head. There would be no resolution. The conflict was far from over. We don’t know much. But we do know that there will be an end. We don’t know what form it will take. But there will be blood. Hey man, slow downOriginalName is dead.Slow downThere are no clues in this post.
Night 1 has started! You have 24 hrs to decide on night actions. Be sure to send any night actions to both Node and LSB. This day post doesn't add too much other than to confirm that we made it to the island, and decided to elect someone to lead us. (Also, more confirmation that everyone now has black blood)
+ Show Spoiler [day 2] +On January 27 2011 11:01 Node wrote:Day 2 Some nights I thirst for real bloodEvery city has its dark place, the area that no one in their right mind will go. Ours is the forest, the woods that loom in the center. Away from the campfire, away from the tents, away from the city. The thick, ancient trunks loom, the undisturbed bark hard as stone, the tangled roots cloying at uncareful limbs. No one knows what happens there, and certainly no one would venture there in the night. But tonight, the forest stirs. Its solitude is intruded upon. For real knivesThe noises inside are a mystery. The scampering in the bush, a deer? That blood-curdling scream, nothing an animal could make. For real criesAnd there in the clearing, in the moonlight, Meapak_Ziph runs at full speed, jumping over roots, snapping aside branches. And close behind him a black shape, only a blur in the darkness, gaining, about to grab, only a hand-length away... And then the flash of steel from real gunsMeapak_Ziph falls with a grunt to the ground, his face contorts in surprise, horror, and pain, and then... silence. Everything is still but for the fountain of black blood sprouting from his body. The shadow is gone. Meapak_Ziph dies alone. In real lifeAnd then another persons enters the clearing. He is careful, disturbing nothing, as quiet as the trees surrounding him. A coward, he hid in the shadows witnessing it all, doing nothing. He gazes down at the body of Meapak, the drying blood staining his feet. He shudders, and continues on. Really fills my mindI followed TheAldo. And as I ran my knife across his throat, no one was there to help him. How fitting. You can’t hideI could get used to this black blood. TheAldo has died.Meapak_Ziph has died.Night 1 has ended. Day 2 has begun! The lynch has been opened to the general vote. At the end of the day, someone will be hung... This would imply that we have set up our small city on the beaches of the the island, and states that there is something very wrong about the woods in the middle of the island. I'm imagining LOST here.
A few mysteries that are left to solve: What other effect(s) does the black liquid have? What is the real goal of sending 31 people to an island, infected by this virus? In normal games it is a common theme that the blood runs an alignment matching color. Is the virus what causes people to not flip? If so, is there a way to cure it?
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Again, i would encourage everyone to take a look at Nemesis' play in Mini Maifa IV, and Merc mafia.
His play in general is more like Merc mafia (town) than Mini IV (Mafia). He looks scummy to me now, but he looked scummy to me in Merc too. While it's certainly possible that he's just playing a different style of scum, this is a point in his favor.
RoL's play is more and more reminding me of Merc maifa (mafia) however, and I'm going to put my vote for him. As much as I'm suspicious of Bum, his analysis echoes my concerns.
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The problem with DT claiming in this situation is that we have nothing to check him by. If he says someone is mafia, there's no way we can tell for sure.
Also, we don't know if we have more than one medic in this setup.
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On January 28 2011 10:33 SiNiquity wrote: Cause of death: Gun shots, though he fleeing the pursuit of what appears to be by another assailant. Also, was it really the gun shot, or just a coincidental juxtaposition of lyrics and story? I don't think so but a possibility.
Also deemed a coward for hiding and witnessing it, but doing nothing (perhaps suggesting he was a medic, i.e. he had the power to save him but didn't
I'm more inclined to believe that his throat was slit, as that's how everyone except the assassin has dies thus far. But yes, this is speculation.
My original thought was that it was because he didn't post at all. That's an interesting interpretation, one that a sincerely hope is wrong.
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On January 28 2011 13:02 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 12:30 GMarshal wrote:On January 28 2011 12:23 Coagulation wrote:EBWOP On January 28 2011 12:22 Coagulation wrote:On January 28 2011 12:19 kitaman27 wrote:On January 28 2011 12:17 Coagulation wrote: when town its usually best to lay low unless theres a reason not to. when late game comes i post more.
also many people will confirm that i post 100x more when im mafia. What reason is there a reason to lay low? Is there something to hide from? mafia hits SK hitsAn active thread provides more information so when you get to late game, you actually have something to go by. ok As town though its our job to get information by any and all means, even if it means dying for it. I mean unless you serve some other function by staying alive then you should post much and often. If I weren't buried in school work then I would certainly post more. (Ok, now back to studying calculus)
This is a blue claim. Townies should never just sit back till there's more to analyze. If every townie did this, they would never get anywhere. If you are a vanilla townie, your play is unacceptable.
If you are a blue player, you've made yourself more obvious by drawing attention to this than anyone else has by calling you out. However, I'm inclined to believe that you are NOT a blue player. Last game that you played a blue role in was Salem, if my research is correct. You were an active medic in that game, that told people what to do. This seems contradictory to what you are doing now, and makes little sense. Yes, people can change their play styles, but history has show it's usefulness before.
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EBWODP: Uh...That came off alot more FoS than i wanted it to. I'm not trying to FoS you yet, Coag, I'm just saying that I disagreed with your play style. So...No hard feelings. Yet. =)
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On January 28 2011 04:34 Kavdragon wrote: ##Vote RebirthOfLeGend
I'm still suspicious of RoL, but I think that we can afford to wait on him for another day.
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