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On December 08 2010 12:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ok if i got a result like this: ace team rocket ver team rocket bloodycobbler team rocket fishball team rocket amber team rocket kingjames team rocket obviously that's no fair no point in analysing it really. sometimes i want to see specific people be certain roles before the game starts and there is no way anyone could really predict that quoted because i want that team to fail. All the way RNG please... :/ | ||
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On December 08 2010 13:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: that would require me to be a player Hello Sir BC. I remember long time ago you used to write delicious recipes for TL. Maybe that was in my previous life. | ||
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i find your lack of faith disturbing... (Starwars Mafia Please. Im playing the wookie). | ||
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On December 10 2010 03:38 L wrote: Lol what the fuck is this. Just get in maybe u turn to be mewtwo. | ||
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On December 10 2010 06:17 Incognito wrote: Adding one more player is grossly inadequate for offsetting that extra third party player. We already accounted for the third party (sorta) so we should be fine either way. Your call. At least someone speaks with some sense. One less pikapi is not going to change balance. | ||
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On December 10 2010 09:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Also @LSB: I don't think we should say "we need to lynch inactives". While it may pressure scum to come out from hiding, I have seen it hit town more often than not. I think we need to deal with who is out and talking and giving us things to analyze rather than just blindly shooting into a room with a shotgun. I rather start the blind shoot into this small room with a shotgun. We are not getting analysis going too far away day one. Picking the right guy at the right time is picking a dead weight at first. | ||
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On December 10 2010 09:40 Gabriel wrote: I rather start the blind shoot into this small room with a shotgun. We are not getting analysis going too far away day one. Picking the right guy at the right time is picking a dead weight at first. How can you possibly say this? The game literally just started, and we have 48 hours to scumhunt. Again, I am going to say, there is no reason to dismiss the idea of finding a lynch candidate Day 1. Game started long before first day post. Interesting that you still defy chances: mafia takes some time to get in contact. Maybe you want to propose a lynch candidate right now? I actually have one right in front of me. Edit to pretify | ||
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On December 10 2010 10:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Editing is against the rules. This is a warning. A second edit will result in a modkill. -_-' Just missed a quote tag. Just ask for it. | ||
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On December 10 2010 10:17 jcarlsoniv wrote: In response to: Unless I'm misunderstanding his post, he seems to be accusing me. Although the bolded portion doesn't really make much sense to me. Can you clarify it Gabriel? Mafia needs time to coordinate. Is that clear? I dont get your bolded either. | ||
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On December 10 2010 10:46 d3_crescentia wrote: That plan will need to be modified, if not scrapped once we get our D1 vote list out. I rather check the active player and lynch the inactive player. The active player right now is more likely to be +info in the future anyways, while the inactive is just... well... inactive. By the way one of the worst game aproachs is the "im noob just reading and getting used to play". If you are town you rather post something small but with actual meaning. I still have a decent target day 1 unless he posts a few more than oneliners. Inactives is also my treasure box. | ||
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On December 10 2010 10:51 Infundibulum wrote: I don't like lynching inactives Day 1 because we run the risk of lynching someone that is going to be modkilled. Unless I am mistaken, DocH is running a rather strict modkill policy: miss a vote = modkill. So if we lynch someone that wasn't going to vote anyway, it's rather redundant. I am a man that strives for efficiency. Well. Why not? Its not like Infundibulum is a mafia newb to make that post. | ||
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On December 10 2010 11:04 d3_crescentia wrote: I have no idea what that last line means. Why don't you tell us/vote for who your "decent target"? +info always benefits town. I have a half decent target in the "im new guys" list. However right now i really want to flip Infundibulum because A) He came out of nowhere to dismiss lynching inactives (and that is really nonsense for a player that has played a lot of games) B) I cant believe jcarsoniv just posted a single Why? to LSB vote. | ||
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A) your vote B) your deep posts? On December 10 2010 07:11 Kenpachi wrote: oh shit.. i cant really imagine Professor Oak dead D: On December 10 2010 07:47 Kenpachi wrote: Pikachu - Townie Raichu - Miller Chansey - Medic Cloyster - Veteran Alakazam - Detective Electrode - Mad Hatter Mew - Special Detective Gengar - God Father Koffing - Mafia Grunt Weezing - Mafia Shrink Mewtwo - 3rd Party Vigilante notice how our only way of killing at night is Mad Hatter and 3rd party.. 3rd party is technically against us and will probably kill town over mafia due to immunity and their goal is to be last alive. On December 10 2010 07:50 Kenpachi wrote: yea claiming is a no no. and i hate lynching inactives. doesnt work at all. On December 10 2010 08:01 Kenpachi wrote: how many people can Mafia target per night? On December 10 2010 08:12 Kenpachi wrote: basically, where we can point out scum easily without confusing them as town.. i think | ||
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On December 10 2010 11:15 tube wrote: ok well im basically the only person who has talked and is new, so you must be suspecting me in which case i would respond by asking how i'm a "half decent" target I was refering to the "im new i dont understand pose". May be actually new or not see my previous post. | ||
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On December 10 2010 11:20 d3_crescentia wrote: With a game of 31 people and a little more than half the people having posted recently it's just dumb to blindvote someone for "just showing up." What do you read into the line about efficiency that I don't? Is it really efficient at this point lynch an active player over the inactive that is going to die anyways?? Really? I mean mafia is not going to die because he doesnt vote, blues are not going to die because they dont vote. Meh i want to flip infundibulum badly. | ||
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On December 10 2010 11:28 Infundibulum wrote: It is stupid to lynch someone that is going to be modkilled because that is like not lynching anybody at all. That is what my first post was trying to say. Well now that you have started posting it is not "lynching anybody" to lynch you. And the big fallacy there is that we just dont know who is going to be modkilled because it is enough for a guy to vote or even abstain at the last minute. So your argument is: we shouldnt vote inactives because they are going to be modkilled, except that the ones that we want to get sniped are those that are actually not modkilled (whatever the definition of inactive you may have). Im still voting Infundibulum. Kenpachi is still missing? | ||
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On December 10 2010 11:34 Kenpachi wrote: what would posting history 4 hours into the game show you? A) You dont want to be active posting B) You want to "look" active C) You read the rules but you actually dont know mafia KP? That was rare. D) You dont want to lynch inactives because that doesnt work. E) You want enlightment. F) You vote for me out of literally nowhere. I mean: i post to flip Infundibulum and you come right after me. Care to explain at least? | ||
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On December 10 2010 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: If you read the rules you would know that people who don't vote will be killed by Dr.H (the moderator). So yes, Infund is correct that it would be more efficient. I still put it this way: You rather have an active poster that is somehow contributing the town dead instead of a non contributer that *may get modkilled* or *may be just hidding*. Note that in everycase *May* just depends on him because he can just post oneliners or vote at the last minute. | ||
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On December 10 2010 11:44 Kenpachi wrote: A) 4 hours does not judge that. what if i went on TL tomorrow for the first time in the past 3 days? B) Anyone who posts would want to look active.. Why would they post if they want to look inactive? C) Why are you assuming i read the rules? how do you know i didnt just assume the KP? D) It doesnt. shh E) ?? its enlightenment F) I dont agree with you voting for Infundibulum. A) Well you just wrote 7 one liners and have yet to post something relevant. B) But you are NOT. It is not about how you look. Come on that is not an argument, so you post one liners to look active? what is that? Sparta? C) Well you actually read the rules because you posted the pokemon/classicmafia relation. I wonder why you just couldnt look for the mafia KP, and insisted to look clueless asking for it. D) It doesnt? well you were pretty much inactive and so was Infundibulum. Maybe it does. E) You think too much. You have again 2 posts where you "think" about this "think" about that, when it is clear that those post refer to info available in the opening rules. This heavily smells like "im not too sure, i dont know" plot. F) So you agree that you are protecting infundibulum by voting me: More reason to flip him!. | ||
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On December 10 2010 12:01 Oceanic wrote: This logic is flawed since the game just started. So they didn't post right at the start and their first post was later then a lot of people's. So they were inactive til their first post? What about all the other people that haven't posted yet. When they make their first post are you going to say the same thing about them? After all, they were even later and therefore must be even more suspicious? Note that Kenpachi was actually posting since the start of the thread. People is inactive because we are just starting the game but nonsense has to be pinned down as soon as it comes out. I find hilariously weird that a guy posting one liners comes right after i vote Infundibulum (with a reason that may or may not be strong for other players) and simply votes Gabriel because he doesnt like my vote on Infundibulum. What do you think? Is that normal? He didnt even posted that. | ||
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On December 10 2010 12:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: Excuse him for not looking through your sig? It was a valid question considering your logic is so immensely flawed that it is laughable. //End of arguing with random people defending random people when they actually cant pm eachother (suposedly). Going to sleep. | ||
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I believe defending myself is not really needed so im keeping my reasons to myself. On the lynch Gabriel bandwagon we *may* actually have some mafia but im inclined to believe most of them are town alligned people. I dont want to go further. In return i present a better case for active lynching. The thing is: I agree we dont really need to tackle down an inactive because they are actually going to die to a modkill (please disregard anything i said before about the matter). The key point here is that i expect a bunch of people voting very late to dodge the non voting modkill (thus looking suspicious) but at the same time mafia can not hide so well this game because there are no abstainers: we are actually forced to vote. So far the most unconvincing active voice is zeks. On December 10 2010 08:52 zeks wrote: I'd also encourage the new people to post more if you want to live because if you don't talk (1) We're probably going to hang you sooner or later for being useless (2) If you're blue you might be unluckily sniped Basically just holding back the town in a witch hunt. Make informative posts and contribute. I'm pretty sure the veterans of the game here are somewhat forgiving of newbie mistakes - just don't pull the "newbie card" on us repeatedly. Otherwise the game is pretty easy to pick up On December 10 2010 11:00 zeks wrote: Lynch inactives or eventually they'll burn us in the ass in the end when we're fighting amongst each other 6 scum + 1 third party = 7 / 31 = 22% chance of sniping someone. I haven't played for a couple months but most the player list looks relatively foreign to me so I'm assuming theres quite a number of new players (over half?) From what I've seen from past games newb scum tend to lurk (correct me if I'm wrong) so we shouldn't give a free pass to inactives. And with new players we don't have any material from past games to work with. Nobody is going to correct you: scum tend to lurk around and make contributing like yet meaningless posts, way too defensive to state something that is almost general consensus. On December 10 2010 13:59 zeks wrote: Vote on infun is placeholder for now - though his recent slip ups seem unusual Nice to get a reaction from you folks though This post is a big tell in my book. You were called out by at least 3 players for your vote (d3_crescentia, jcarson and others) and your argument was voting infundibulum as a placeholder. Interesting that you choose someone with a vote already. Next 2 lines are really odd: What are Infundibulums slip ups? You were called out about that (Node) but you just dodged in olympic fashion. Your last line is very likely to be red:"Nice to get a reaction?" Its not like you are the one making the crazy guys play here to get a reaction. In fact you actually had no reaction (and when you got it you dodged meh?) This "praise like" post is really red [B]On December 10 2010 15:20 zeks wrote: [b]Another reason why I placed such an early vote on infun was to spark discussion and reactions. Certainly infun has calmy taken this early heat quite better than the rest of you all. It's 3 votes out of 31 people, stop overreacting. I have my suspicions of infun from his posts but I think he's "contributed" enough to warrant an exemption from day 1. Small hunch its a soft claim so take it with a grain of salt (and don't go ape shit on me) [b]I'm going to keep my vote on him for now until tomorrow when enough time has passed and we can make a fair inactive list, which then I'll vote for one from there. But you didnt get any discussion at all from your voting. I mean you could just let it go as a "placeholder" vote but you wanted to get spark from that? Not really convincing that the second vote on the same guy wants to do that. Maybe the third or fourth (if they make a valuable argument, but still lack to explain why you were suspicious of Inf) and you are not actually getting anything like discussion or reaction, so your early vote doesnt add up with your reasoning. Excuse me if im reading you as an "active lurker" so far. [B]On December 11 2010 05:31 zeks wrote: Changing my vote to stormtemplar for inactiveness But wait... you wanted a "fair inactive list"? why picking an inactive at random just now? I mean at least give us something. Why stormtemplar and not any other inactive? This is just too weird for you to target an inactive at random when there is a guy fighting everyone in the thread. Some people think im disrupting the town and others think im just playing bad. You still fail to write something different than "lets vote an inactive but dont look at me to lynch" Adding to your fail to explain anything there are just too many parts were your posts follow an extreme defensive pattern: (stop overreacting), (dont go apeshit on me), (correct me if im wrong), out of nowhere. This fear is highly indicative of scums play, i have never ever seen a green or blue post like that when there are actually almost no votes on them. Sir I have to say that unless you come with some actual reasoning (why did you suspect Inf?) (why you fear so much?) (why do you insist in voting an absolutely random inactive?) you look very very good for a first day lynch... a lot better then me. | ||
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On December 11 2010 16:40 jcarlsoniv wrote: Well, Gabriel...wow. This is so very ironic. You accuse zeks because of some suspicious stuff. Ok, that's fine, I agree, he is on my "players to watch" list. But come on. What. The. Fuck. You are seriously questioning for two reasons: 1. Accusing Infund with shaky reasoning and 2. Choosing a random inactive to vote for. No Sir. The main indicative of mafia behavior is his fail to come with an explanation about his vote or anything at all. I actually explained my vote (under a bad logic i agree) and in my first paragraph im stating that im actually going to lynch an active player. Maybe you missed the part where i asked to disregard all i said about lynching an inactve and posted why we should actually lynch an active player. YOU also voted for Infundibulum. YOU voted for Infund AFTER zeks. YOU proposed very questionable logic for accusing Infund yourself. You are more of a waffle than John Kerry... I agree Sir. Maybe the timestamps can make it clear that i had no intend to be the third one on that list. However mine is not an argument. You were an advocate for lynching inactives and calling it a day, something I called you out on. If you were to lynch inactives, how would you go about it? Would you have a strategy other than picking a random inactive and hanging him? However, now you are accusing zeks because this is what he wanted to do. Not only that, but it's not like one random vote on an inactive is going to start a random bandwagon without some reasoning behind it, so as far as I can see, stormtemplar isn't in any real danger. And now im stating really calmly why i actually agree with infundibulum and why we should lynch and active lurker. We wont have real inactives this game something you seems to fail to understand-> no vote =modkill and people cant abstain. This looks like possible scum bussing scum to me. Even better for the town. Lynch me, place a bomb on zeks next night. Also, lawl at Gabriel saying he doesn't feel he need to defend himself. Well, buddy, you've got 6 votes on you at the moment, which is triple other player for the majority at the moment. I DEFINITELY feel that you need some defense because honestly, you are playing super anti-town at the moment. Im actually ready to vote Gabriel if i think im going to protect a blue. I have done it and honestly defending myself other than: "i agree the logic wich i used on infundibulums vote was wrong" is pretty much useless. I managed to get what i wanted for day 1 even if you lynch me. However you fail to give any credit to my analysis on zeks posting. Please dont let your opinion on me blind the logic and analysis i posted. If something read it as if another player was writing about zeks. You can lawl all you want, that doesnt make you smarter. Anyways, that's it for me tonight. It is late and I've had way too much rum. See you guys in the morning. Good morning sir. | ||
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On December 11 2010 16:58 Eiii wrote: ...gabes posts are so blatantly bad I'm actually starting to have a hard time believing they could possibly be authored by scum. o_O You really dont see any red indicative on zeks play? Instead of stating that my posts are just "bad" give some input. I mean you are not arguing anything at all you are just saying that post is bad. Well maybe im wrong and zeks play is actually normal please give something from you back. | ||
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On December 11 2010 17:10 Eiii wrote: holy shit Gabriel Mafia: The game where it doesn't matter that your arguments are logically consistent, or that they're accurate, or even that they make any sense at all! As long as you have a long post to make so it looks like you're trying really really hard, congrats! You're absolved of potentially being mafia. Next suspect! What? I agreed that my previous logic was flawled what else do you want? I found intriguing that you refuse to actually argue about my post. Your attack on a very likely lynch player is strange to say the least mostly because you refuse to argue anything at all. | ||
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On December 11 2010 17:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Jcarl hit the nail on the head. Gabriel is doing exactly what he says not to do AND he has flip flopped like three times on who we should lynch. He's just lashing out at the most random people now. While zeks is a lurker, at this point lynching someone as erratic and just downright scummy as gabe is a much better way to go. If you have your vote on someone else right now read jcarls post, if that doesn't convince you then just read all of Gabriels posts. After rereading all of them just now I have no idea who Gabriel thinks we should lynch or why we should lynch them because quite frankly he's changed his position more times than konadora has LR posts. I really had wanted gabe to clarify and solidify his positions because I don't want to lynch the most active player right off the bat but instead of clarifying he's simply muddied the waters further which is very good for scum and very bad for town. Im presenting a case on another player. The problem here is that almost everyone active in the thread right now is assuming im defending myself. Im not, i stated i was wrong. . One of the problems you have is that erratic play is not indicative of mafia play. You are actually stating something false (that i flip floped 3 times) when in fact i just said that i wanted to kill an inactive and went after infundibulum because he had a different opinion and now im changing to lynch an active player (and im proposing one). | ||
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On December 11 2010 17:18 tree.hugger wrote: Apologies to everyone for my lack of participation. As is easily verified, I've been sitting on 3999 posts for several days, and trying to write two major essays and my 4000th post at the same time, so it's been a little awkward. That said, this really hasn't been a particularly eventful day so far, so I've caught up easily. Firstly: Please don't put your entire posts in green. Makes it impossible to read. Your post was noticable enough because of it's length, and green text has a purpose, so don't abuse that. Anyway, we should probably lynch a TR member this first round and, we've got an obvious mafia to lynch in Kenpachi, so we should probably go take it. + Show Spoiler [Kenpachi Archive] + On December 10 2010 07:11 Kenpachi wrote: oh shit.. i cant really imagine Professor Oak dead D: On December 10 2010 07:47 Kenpachi wrote: Pikachu - Townie Raichu - Miller Chansey - Medic Cloyster - Veteran Alakazam - Detective Electrode - Mad Hatter Mew - Special Detective Gengar - God Father Koffing - Mafia Grunt Weezing - Mafia Shrink Mewtwo - 3rd Party Vigilante notice how our only way of killing at night is Mad Hatter and 3rd party.. 3rd party is technically against us and will probably kill town over mafia due to immunity and their goal is to be last alive. On December 10 2010 07:50 Kenpachi wrote: yea claiming is a no no. and i hate lynching inactives. doesnt work at all. On December 10 2010 08:01 Kenpachi wrote: how many people can Mafia target per night? On December 10 2010 08:12 Kenpachi wrote: basically, where we can point out scum easily without confusing them as town.. i think On December 10 2010 11:34 Kenpachi wrote: what would posting history 4 hours into the game show you? On December 10 2010 11:44 Kenpachi wrote: A) 4 hours does not judge that. what if i went on TL tomorrow for the first time in the past 3 days? B) Anyone who posts would want to look active.. Why would they post if they want to look inactive? C) Why are you assuming i read the rules? how do you know i didnt just assume the KP? D) It doesnt. shh E) ?? its enlightenment F) I dont agree with you voting for Infundibulum. On December 10 2010 12:12 Kenpachi wrote: A) There isnt much to post in the beginning, due to low information and lack of suspicion. B) I am not what? I posted in the beginning to "look" active because i have a history of lurking. C) You are still assuming i read the rules. Did i read or skim it? Did i read it but pass the KP? I posted that in the thread for people who also didnt know to possibly take a burden off many people. D)Idk man. you found a bunch of posts in the beginning and call me inactive? Refer to B). Why am i posting to "look" active? E) "I think its 2." hey i only played 1 game with Double Lynch before. F) your logic is flawed. i can vote for anyone i want to and im defending Infundibulum by not voting for him. Why do you think youre gonna be the main bandwagon from 1 vote? On December 11 2010 15:20 Kenpachi wrote: So, i didnt vote Gabe to start a bandwagon on him.. was mainly a placeholder but after his responses, i decided i wont be switching my vote. If I had a nickle for every useful thing Kenpachi said for the town, I'd be broke. This is pretty basic mafia stuff here, no substantive accusations, and some aimless FoSing on Gabriel, which has turned into a mini-wagon. Specifically note Kenpachi actually disowning the bandwagon that he created in the last post, because he doesn't want to commit to anything. From the beginning, Kenpachi has been particularly useless, not commenting on or committing to plans, even as they're being discussed under his nose. His strategy is pretty clearly non-committal, and every single post of his just highlights the fact that he's not saying something useful. I know this basic formula well, because I used it in the game that Ver analyzed. I was killed by BM being bad, but lets kill Kenpachi day one, so we don't have to put up with this anymore. My problem so far with lynching Kenpachi is that i really think he is not Green but he may as well be Blue. As someone already stated i was actually triyng to get some reaction from him (so it is not really like im doing mafias work) and to direct somw attention for a RC. Im not ready to lynch Kenpachi (and i never advokated to lynch him). Honeslty zeks is far away a better target for now. | ||
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On December 12 2010 01:31 zeks wrote: And I supposedly placed the first "bandwagon" vote on infun which resulted to attention to myself. No. And there is where your "argument" fails big time. Your vote came up just as it came mine (check the timestamps on the voting thread). However i was ready to take the shotgun against infundibulum but you didnt even tried to validate your vote. You are still way behind to give something back, never said a word about voting me or dont, never said a word about kenpachi or about infundibulums "slip up". If you are actually town then you are dead weight to say the least as you keep dodging everything i posted on you. You are drawing attention to yourself analysis wise not because you voted infundibulum but because you are not commiting in any possible way yet you try to look active. Look at Kenpachi. I shot like 3 bullets to him in less than 3 hours in a random arguing because he just voted me under the "i dont like your vote on infundibulums" argument (wich is still meh). But at least the guy took his time to answer point by point all those times. If you are town please answer: What was infundibulums slip up? Why are you so defensive on your posting? Why did you actually change your vote without a "fair inactive list" just as you said you would do? Do you still insist on voting a random inactive even when he is going to get modkilled? What do you think about people voting Kenpachi? | ||
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On December 12 2010 13:13 DCLXVI wrote: Uhhh, what? RoL is good, a good sign for the town. Not to mention we didn't lose one to a modkill. Whose side are you on? I dont have time for you yet. Just dont quote me. | ||
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On December 12 2010 13:32 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: malongo you hater! You know i love you bro </3 | ||
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Rolecheck list: + Show Spoiler + Eiii DCLXVI Hesmyrr Protection list: + Show Spoiler + node d3_crescentia jcarlsoniv Voltorb list: + Show Spoiler + tree.hugger dimnsab deconduo | ||
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On December 10 2010 16:02 Eiii wrote: Honestly, gabe's play has been distracting and inconsistent at best and scummy at worse. I mean, look at this: He goes from saying "We're not going to be able to analyze anyone day 1, let's just lynch an inactive and hope it removes some dead weight" to... Trying really really hard to paint ken as scum. And he doesn't even have any decent basis for it! One quote is a throwaway reaction to the day 1 post, one quote is asking about rules of the game, and the rest are useless but harmless posts. Like I said before, if he had taken even a second to look at ken's play in salem he would have seen that ken spammed like crazy even though he was medic. He might be active but he's certainly not helpful, and I think he knows it. Personally, I *do* think good analysis can be done day one. My vote's with gabe for now. On December 11 2010 23:58 Node wrote: As weird as Gabriel's play is -- I still highly doubt that he's mafia, there's no way scum would draw so much attention to themselves -- I agree completely with his analysis of zeks. I'm still curious about the "infun slip ups" line, which has yet to be clarified. Also, I think the "stop overreacting" and "don't go apeshit" lines were excellent catches, as they were put down after zeks deflected pressure. For those who don't know, a classic scumtell is defending oneself and acting guilty when there aren't people attacking you. Scum, after all, has something to be guilty about while townies do not. I'd also like to draw everybody's attention to Eiii, who has been posting in an incredibly scummy fashion. What, exactly, are these supposed to contribute? They do absolutely nothing as far as actually refuting gabriel's arguments, but instead continue to pile shit on him by calling his posts bad. It does zero for the actual discussion at hand. To me, it screams scum attempting to deflect a lynch. For now, I'm going to be putting my vote on zeks. If he turns up scum, I think we have been given excellent candidates for the lynch on day 2. On December 12 2010 11:19 Eiii wrote: Alright, so as much as I don't like his posts gabriel seems to pretty clearly be a townie at this point. Looks like actual discussion makes him put out decent content instead of just blindly lashing out, so hopefully that keeps up :D I'm switching my vote to ken. He's already been analyzed to death, but what I really don't like is this: Zero response to DC's attacks, just semi-claims to be blue to avoid a lynch. Obviously he takes it back a post later, but I just can't get over how disruptive a move this is. You are so mafia it hurts my eyes sir. Last voter on Kenpachi too. To put it in a few words: 1 Eiii puts the pressure on Gabriel to justify a badwagon. Note that he states clearly that my reasoning for calling KENPACHI OUT is wrong based. 2 Just as Node describes: when I post about lynching zeks and why he is the best behavior lynch he comes out with two rather personal attack posts (and he didnt even cared to read about zeks analysis). Another thing to note: dodging Nodes call out. Not even a word. Period. 3 Three posts later im the cleanest guy in the town. Throw me a bone here please. 4 Remember point 1? lol now Kenpachis analysis is good (after it came from tree.hugger). Now im asking anyone to re read the actual case from treehugger and get the name of all those quotes inside his post calling Kenpachi (hint: they are mine). Can you actually explain how you pass from "(Gabriel is) Trying really really hard to paint ken as scum. And he doesn't even have any decent basis for it!" to "I'm switching my vote to ken. He's already been analyzed to death" (by Gabriel and tree.hugger mostly)? And how you pass from: "...gabes posts are so blatantly bad I'm actually starting to have a hard time believing they could possibly be authored by scum. o_O" + "holy shit: Gabriel Mafia: The game where it doesn't matter that your arguments are logically consistent, or that they're accurate, or even that they make any sense at all! As long as you have a long post to make so it looks like you're trying really really hard, congrats! You're absolved of potentially being mafia. Next suspect!" to "Alright, so as much as I don't like his posts gabriel seems to pretty clearly be a townie at this point. Looks like actual discussion makes him put out decent content instead of just blindly lashing out, so hopefully that keeps up :D Im calling you out sir. Right here, right now. | ||
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On December 12 2010 15:37 Hesmyrr wrote: Okay, I do have to address before I go away. What is purpose of randomizing either of three actions again, when good PR can yield better results by intelligent decision making? Also wtf are you producing random results when you can simply tell the PR to use RNG to determine their results, which is FAR better method than using this "random" result of yours. You dont really believe me when i say they are random do you? fear of a rolecheck maybe? Just let it go Hesmyr. | ||
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On December 13 2010 03:06 GGQ wrote: Certainly. http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5096 http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5341 You'll see that the level of play in the games I've linked is much much lower than it is here. I feel like I'm in a little over my head atm lol, but I'll do my best to rise to the challenge. Previous data from players is useless. Half decent players are able to get away with different playstyles. Im sure TL veterans dont look previous games unless there is a contradictory post from the accused in the active game (refered to the old game). | ||
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LOL are you just agreeing you are scum? | ||
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What? im not good at English but you just wrote: What other games have I been scum in? | ||
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On December 13 2010 12:34 chaoser wrote: Pretty sure if someone died from voltorb's they would be reported as such. It was stated that no one died from the one that exploded. That's generally how mad hatters work. Kinda strange that you didn't know that...you've played enough games lol There is only one smart bomb an electrode could place day 1 given our circumstances. Just add zeks gameplay to get it. | ||
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On December 14 2010 08:18 zeks wrote: I'm really wondering if this was truly random or some meaning to it. You're doing no one any good from RNGing these lists - (Voltorb on decon and tree.hugger really?) ONE and for someone who wanted me dead so badly I'd suspect you put me on the Rolecheck list (unless you think I'm the Godfather) or at least the Voltorb list. The whole purpose of you posting that was to try to wrongly dictate blue moves (very anti-town). TWO Although I think this is somewhat suspicious too as Hesmyrr was on the rolecheck list and immediately he tried to dismiss Gabriel's random lists' validity - perhaps he has something to hide. Overall RNGing your actions is terrible so I don't know why its been suggested. Make informative decisions! THREE Listen to the sound arguments, protect our assets and punish the suspicious. I am getting extremely suspicious of you Gabriel after looking at the people who died and their posts. Out of the initial 6 people who were threatening you, by far FOUR jcarlson and Meapak had the most compelling arguments, with Kenpachi being aggressive; quite a coincidence that they're all dead now. In fact the other 3 that had voted for you:dinsmab: In your list you wanted to bomb him Eiii: Heavy retaliation against his accusation - and he's in your list of DT check (trying to suggest he's scum) FIVE Brocket: Don't remember what you've done to him but plenty of people trying to discredit him as a poster by calling him a fake-newb/smurf whatever - I actually think he's pretty logical in his posting. SIX Basically you've got rid of / placed suspicion on everyone who voted for you in the beginning. SEVEN On top of that right as you get heat you divert it all to me based on a couple of weak slip-ups and immediately you bandwagons gone. As you best put it: Three posts later im the cleanest guy in the town. Throw me a bone here please. When Gabriel gets bandwagoned people say they have trouble understanding why and that the arguments were weak EIGHT When I get bandwagoned he becomes god and no one questions his accusations against me. Fair enough I hope this gives you guys a reason to give this guy a vote tonight And should we vote in double lynch? ONE: There was no need to voltorb or RC you night one. Unfortunately I was not convincing enough to lynch you mostly because players have tendency to take the game personal. As an example Jcarlsoniv took it personal and every attack he made on me was wrong based (page 20). The reason why we dont need a RC nor voltorb on you is because you should be lynched today without further add on. TWO: Hesmyrr is claiming now. That can still be a mafia ploy so i find interesting that he "just" claimed now. Ill just let it go for now. Hesmyrrs replacement is by no means cleared yet. THREE: Actually i know i am egocentric but my argument on you (page 19) is way ahead of tree.huggers argument on KEN because his was based on stupid/no content posting from Ken while mine was based on solid "mafia like posting" analysis on you. Again I dont have the name or appeal to seduce most of the mob at once, but rest assured Ver and Ace would be proud of my analysis on you under their belts. However that is just a look back. Before my last line you are going to have a solid soundy argument to warrant that you vote to lynch yourself. FOUR: Jcarlsonivs argument was air as soon as i agreed on a single point on him. Read back and get the conversation. Jcarsoniv had nothing but an angry face after that and a few fos to eat himself (YOU sir are more... blah blah blah). (page 20) Meapak_Ziphhs argument was so compelling that he ended up voting zeks alongside with me. Kenpachi never had a chance to argue against me other than ("i dont like your vote on Infundibulum"). Again I was actually trying to prevent Ken to get lynched. They are all dead. True. Do you feel like im the one pulling the strings just as the game starts? I just had to step foward and put myself in the line because "maybe" if i managed to defend i could actually win town trust (in a pm blocked town none the less) and at the same time, maybe, i can then kill people accusing me/not agreeing me so i can still be on the spotlight. No words. FIVE: Null read on Brocket for now. Interesting that you write about him as he votes me. SIX: This is false. I had the right read on Jcarsoniv and Ken. I never deflected back on Jcarsoniv against him. I let go Kenpachi quite easily after i pulled him. It was tree.hugger the one that came out of nowhere with Ken (and I addressed that Zeks was a better target). I even posted this in my analysis on you: I believe defending myself is not really needed so im keeping my reasons to myself. On the lynch Gabriel bandwagon we *may* actually have some mafia but im inclined to believe most of them are town alligned people. I dont want to go further. In return i present a better case for active lynching. (page 19 on zeks) SEVEN: But hey: i took every hit on me. Each one of them. Like a warrior. Never diverted, I simply took them as a man and in the end there was no more than dust and the angry kids yielling "...I still dont like his posting... waaaa". However this quote on me is indicative of MAFIA: you took a post directed to Eiis lack of consistance and placed it out of context. This is actually another big tell on you. (just another one). Post on Eiis is on page 24. EIGHT: This is again the most basic mafia defensive argument. You sir never got bandwagoned. There is a STRONG lead that your posts are mafia like style, nobody has actually questioned my argument. (read again my post) because it is actually plain logic. You are still the best target post analysis wise Zeks. Now i just want to add thigs others already pointed(credit to them) Tree.hugger on Zeks after Ken flipped. On December 13 2010 06:46 tree.hugger wrote: (on convo with DarthThienAn): ...My problem is that I thought it was pretty obvious that Kenpachi was town BEFORE he flipped. Like I said, he posts like crap or "scummy" but "scummy" posting =/= scum. More often, it's townies who have contradictory posts and poor logic and all those other things (to an extent). It's better to look for people who say stuff like "This thread needs more analysis" and then they don't offer any of their own, or people who drop in and say "this person looks kinda scummy, this person looks kinda scummy" and then they disappear after that. For example, I voted for zeks day 1 because his posts are. for the most part, neutral/non-committal. The "kinda sorta maybe" posting is the kind that I'd consider scummy. Also people who say one thing in the thread, but then "change their minds" at the end of the day and vote for someone without a solid reason.... The whole reason why I voted for Kenpachi was because he was acting in exactly that manner. I certainly agree that Zeks is suspicious, but I didn't change my vote because there was no reason to prioritize one over the other. However, if yesterday he had said this... GGQ on Zeks On December 13 2010 10:51 GGQ wrote: (previous convo with LSB) ...But I'll talk about something that seems really important to me that nobody is discussing: These posts are obviously intended to be seen as the point of view of a green who believes he's been lynched and is giving his last words. However, when I made my vote (which turned out to be the last one), the most recent votecount (which has since been edited to show the final votecount...) showed Kenpachi leading over zeks by two votes, and after that votecount there were three votes for Kenpachi and four for zeks. My vote was 40 minutes before zeks' "I'm dead" post, which gives him plenty of time to count the votes and add some small numbers together and see that Kenpachi was getting lynched, not him. (There is the fact that KtheZ voted zeks twice because he forgot to 'unvote' the first time, but even then the vote would be a tie and Kenpachi would still have been lynched). I have a hard time believing that zeks could miscount the votes so badly with his life on the line. I think these posts really force us to polarize our view on zeks. You either believe that he's an innocent pikachu who fails at simple math, or that he's confirmed TR because no town role would fake those posts. I strongly feel that he's scum. Absolutely true. GGQ picked it right there: He was the last voter and a townie would have never ever missed he is NOT the one getting lynched and coming out with the ("good im not blue" line) or that "suspicious list". Note that im not on the list! NEW EVIDENCE: On December 11 2010 23:36 LSB wrote: People who haven't posted yet. (To Be Modkilled) 2. BrownBear 6. DarthThienAn 7. StormTemplar 12. ghrur .... (plus other lists) I'm supporting the Kenpachi lynch because I don't like how quickly Jcarlsoniv turned it into a bandwagon. On December 12 2010 05:00 zeks wrote: ...(trying hard to come and answer my points)... Gabriel querys zeks: Why did you actually change your vote without a "fair inactive list" just as you said you would do? I actually voted Stormtemplar after LSB made the inactive list. What I meant by "fair" was to have the list made after the first day to give people a chance to post if they haven't. On December 11 2010 05:31 zeks wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Stormtemplar Is it me or that is just a LIE? i dont know how I (we) didnt note that you actually voted stormtemplar before LSB lists appeared. Here, take your brick on the face. TL;DR Post contains: - A lot of ego. - A lot of logic bashing, actually is quite graphic. - Another big mafia tell: taking posts out of context to place an argument. - Treehuggers agreement that he would have voted Zeks. - New tells from Zeks posting. They actually tell he is playing against the town (goodbye post). - Facts and a lie. Townies even bad ones dont lie. Vote zeks. | ||
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On December 14 2010 13:22 Brocket wrote: Guys Gab voted on Hesmyrr who mafia already know is town (assuming Hesmyrr is telling the truth). Kenpachi and Jcarl were on the right track, Ima vote for Gabriel for day 2.Darth you can vote for me, whatever. - Really? How do you know Hesmyrr is town? - Did you actually read my vote and the timestamp? - How old are you? (im not kidding this is important for me). - I mean look at the underlined statement. | ||
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On December 14 2010 17:06 Brocket wrote: I have a beef with 2 people at the moment. Gabriel: You're voting zeks. Your original reason was because he acted relatively inactive so is suspicious. That was your strongest argument. It's now void. Good luck getting people to agree with you now. You originally voted for Hesmyrr. You have only recently read the thread with the sufficient degree of comprehension to make the reasonable assumption that he is a townie. Congratulations, but your first vote on Hesmyrr now looks random and out of place and even winding back to when you posted that vote, it still didn't make sense. You have not changed at all since the start of the day 1 and frankly your shaky arguments and even worse counter arguments do not sit well with me. Let's see if you can take it 'like a man, like a warrior' again and see how much dust you can stand today. @ Darth "Huge epeen" ThienAn. You have had sufficient time to contemplate my posts. You've scrutinised my posts on two seperate occasions. I can tell you and everybody a simple fact . If you keep aggressively focusing on one person then that's all that your posts become. Which means it is easy to not give away anything about yourself. So you are at an easy position picking apart everything I say. Despite your huge e-peen, you still have not voted against me. Since you haven't backed up your words with action, you are not as big as you think, friend Darth-Thien-An. I've already told me that what I post is as clear as I can make it. Nobody apart from yourself and Gabe have failed to understand me. Speachless. I can not actually tell if you are just trolling me or if this post is for real. I mean, you just made it, i can not argue you. Congratulations go ahead be free... </3 | ||
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On December 16 2010 13:20 DCLXVI wrote: While I believe he stated that in a poor manner, Gabriel is technically right, however unlikely the situation is. Hesmyrr could have been mewtwo, which would be a great way to get into the town's confirmed list. Mafia could've stacked hits on someone, then had hesmyrr claim, to get him confirmed. While both options are highly unlikely, there are possibilities. Highly likely but not fully confirmed would've been a better way to put it. There was also another way to see it: I assumed wrongly that it was smart (from tree.huggers perspective) to bomb zeks first night in the plan to come foward claiming to stop lynching zeks next day and to bomb another player that night (maybe me) and then call for protection. Since the bomb never triggered i managed the chances that zeks was m2 (wich actually paired his defensive posting). | ||
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Feel free to propose better lynches, im not giving up on Double lynch thou. | ||
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On December 16 2010 14:15 Brocket wrote: Nobody else claiming to take the hit? Also hesmyrr was replaced by pandain right? So essentially the vet took two hits. Maybe the 1st time was an explosion and this time by mafia. Also d3 claims to take the 4th hit. How would you know? If a medic protects you from an attack, would you be notified? Doubtful. I'm guessing d3 is most likely mewtwo. At this stage mewtwo would do well to eliminate would be mafias now since townie death rate is way too high. Also Amber did some scummy behaviour creating a 3rd quick wagon when the day was ending. I just didn't think it was good play. Can the real towns people not do this in the future? Should we continue discussion Shockey? Gabe has missed the votes twice. He has posted much less frequently since day 1 maybe because I've been pretty hard on him. But I'm taking it as scum behaviour. Post some more gabe. O.T.I.O. | ||
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On December 17 2010 12:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: Im going to vote for double lynch when we know for sure who's scum and who's not. I don't want to go off and double lynch two townies or two blues and then the town is fucked, because people like lsb doesn't know how to post anything that is worth meaning. I wish i could post more, but as i am out of town again and posting from my phone till tomorrow night when im able to get in front of a computer. Like i said, look at lsb, he's been "trying " to control the town and only has really put input only to me and says to lynch me. The reason why he keeps trying to lynch me is cause i hit a soft spot Seriously, move back to your pokeball, there is no way to "know for sure" who is TR or not. We are voting DL because we are fucked now. I rather let a selfclaimed m2 to live, and that means we lynch you at this stage. | ||
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On December 18 2010 04:28 Brocket wrote: BROCKET HAS ARRIVED. EVENTS that townies should give a shit about: D3 claims to be mewtwo. Town is COOL with this. WE LOVE m2. Why? Because if townies lose then m2 loses at this stage since zero mafia are dead. Also Mafia have zero ways of killing m2 except by vote. Look at this. LOOK AT IT. d3_crescentia DCLXVI Kavdragon Eiii BrownBear deconduo You must vote one of these guys. Any of them. Shockeyy could be the 6th but not sure. My suggestion is, hop onto the god damn DC wagon or else I'm going to suss you out next, got it? ##VOTE double lynch. ##Vote DCLXVI. You KNOW it makes sense. Make the mafia fail in killing m2, kill a mafia, get 2 lynches for next day. Why the hell would you NOT do it and spread our votes between shockeyy, gabe, LSB. What the fuck? Get with the program pikachus. HRRRRRRNNNGGGGHHH. It actually doesnt make sense when most of the votes are on shockeyy (likely mafia) and deconduo changed his vote to shockeyy. I think people not voting yet are: Tube, Node and Chaoser. Please hoster update the opening post with people remaining/roles. | ||
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tube, Node, chaoser, GGQ, Infundibulum, kitaman27, ghrur to vote yet. | ||
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. . . . not really, just inmensely happy that we got shockeyy and that "somehow" that clears myself. | ||
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On December 18 2010 14:02 DCLXVI wrote: Wow, there was certainly quite a bit of action while I was away. Directed at me I see Brocket starting a bandwagon with kitaman/node/chaoser buying into it with reasons given. Then again, Brocket's reasoning was "he is suss", so I guess they can just throw their votes on too. LSB then tries to get a plan together to lynch me based on that terrible fake role claim by shockeyy (yeah it is easier for me to see now but what were you guys thinking? Last minute "don't lynch me Im a doc" is so overused.) LSB posted that the brocketwagon could've been a mafia ploy to pull people off shockeyy, and kitaman/node/chaoser have been pretty inactive and no opinions for a while. My guess is that if LSB is right about that, then brocket is red along with 1-2 of the K/N/C crew. Hopefully node will flip red and this will prove likely, but we need to wait for Doc to update. LSB's plan seems hasty and bloodthirsty, and I for one am not a fan of it. Still, he is probably going to die tonight so I won't bother to much about it since it didn't attract much attention. So if I were to predict the people to die tonight, I would guess LSB, Brocket, Insanious, and someone else who has suspected me, since that is all that ever happens at night. Seriously, everyone points fingers at me then dies at night >_>. When the dust settles we will probably have about 3 active townies +d3 to line up the lynch targets for tomorrow (if they are still alive): Me, deconduo, brocket, d3???, 10 lurkers... @ Gabriel - I'm not so sure of LSB calling you mostly cleared, since your posting habits have changed so much over the game. You went from being aggressive and having options to ...lurker? I can't recall you having an opinion on anything since you were a lynch target. What happened? I just said that im somehow less mafia like in terms of voting activity. I have less time to play and my first days activity was expected to decrease anyways. Im interested in Brocket calling to lynch you. He insisted: On December 18 2010 04:28 Brocket wrote: BROCKET HAS ARRIVED. EVENTS that townies should give a shit about: D3 claims to be mewtwo. Town is COOL with this. WE LOVE m2. Why? Because if townies lose then m2 loses at this stage since zero mafia are dead. Also Mafia have zero ways of killing m2 except by vote. Look at this. LOOK AT IT. d3_crescentia DCLXVI Kavdragon Eiii BrownBear deconduo You must vote one of these guys. Any of them. Shockeyy could be the 6th but not sure. My suggestion is, hop onto the god damn DC wagon or else I'm going to suss you out next, got it? ##VOTE double lynch. ##Vote DCLXVI. You KNOW it makes sense. Make the mafia fail in killing m2, kill a mafia, get 2 lynches for next day. Why the hell would you NOT do it and spread our votes between shockeyy, gabe, LSB. What the fuck? Get with the program pikachus. HRRRRRRNNNGGGGHHH. Now that you are asking me about my activity i think it is time to start the guns against this guy. It actually doesnt make any sense at all, we knew D3 was m2 with like 99% likeness, and that shockeyy was being pushed on the block from the town side. (amberlight-lsb). He starts asking to vote one of DCs voters to "protect D3". Then he asks to vote DC. He is actually asking you NOT to vote shockeyy. I know mafia can roleblock d3 tonight (and that he is more than likely to be blocked). However: can you just try to flip him d3? just try? | ||
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Since you dont make any sense at all im going to ask you a very easy question: How do you feel about lynching dimnsab tomorrow? He has been an actual lurker all game long and seems to be interested into let the game just go as long as he is alive. Do you think he is mafia? | ||
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On December 19 2010 03:03 Brocket wrote: I want to echo what LSB said very recently: Major Assumption. DCXLIV is green Way to confirm without killing DCXLIV: If Brocket is red, this could be an easy way to confirm. Wow. Let's go ahead and sweeten the deal. If I get lynched. And I'm red. That must make you green too? And also gabe as well? Guaranteed right? Because I'm a nasty mafia gunning for you guys. Can someone not me or lsb tell me which one of us is making sense? This is madness. You are getting so lynched tomorrow. | ||
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you are getting SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lynched tomorrow. | ||
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On December 19 2010 05:29 LSB wrote: Well, medics shouldn't claim, but I don't have a problem with Hatters / DTs claiming. I think mafia will hit shockeyys lynch list heavily tonight. Sad that we lost a medic for free... i am making up my final suspect list as mafia is unlikely to let me live. Deconduo is less of a suspect now because his vote change. My red chips are on Brocket, Node, Kavdragon. Shame on dimnsab, brownbear and oceanic because it is very likely that at least one of them is mafia. | ||
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nono Now wHat? | ||
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On December 19 2010 12:53 LSB wrote: 1. deconduo 2. BrownBear 3. Eiii 4. GGQ 5. LSB 9. dinmsab 11. DCLXVI 14. Node 15. KtheZ 18. Oceanic 19. Gabriel- Cloyster 24. Kavdragon 26. Infundibulum 30. d3_crescentia- SK You can pick the other but im not letting dimnsab end this game. Reason? not that much of a reason just my gut because thats how he plays mafia. | ||
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On December 19 2010 14:56 Node wrote: All right, I'm going to go ahead and claim. It'll be the death of me, but hopefully town won't waste it. I am Alakazam. Night 1 I checked Eiii. Night 2 I checked DCLXVI. Both came up Team Rocket. Night 3 I was roleblocked. Note that this means mafia targeted everyone voting DCL in some way, and they had 2 roleblockers. I can't see them targeting me with a roleblock unless they thought I was on to something -- thus I think DCL is TR and not Raichu. Do what you will. My cards are on the table. Now that is something. | ||
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On December 19 2010 15:33 DCLXVI wrote: I don't think I want the mafia to know that. That leaves them free to kill me tonight/todays lynch if they know it is not on one of them Can you at least name your night actions? (use player x if you want to protect an identity). | ||
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On December 19 2010 15:40 DCLXVI wrote: Night 1 - place on gabriel Night 2 place on shockeyy night 3 move from gabriel to player y as you may have noticed I didn't participate much in the shockeyy bandwagon because I had that covered, but... Wait. You had a bomb on shockeyy and me when shockeyy died. Why didnt you redirect the lynch on you at that stage? You could have roleclaimed at that time to clean up shockeyy and me protecting the SK that was helping the town. Never thought of it? | ||
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On December 19 2010 16:41 DCLXVI wrote: would you mind restating your suspicion on dinmsab? Not to knock on your scum hunting, but this is too important to risk on a hunch. What makes dinmsab stand out? I have the strongest feeling that he is mafia because i played a game with him (i joined the mafia later in the game). In few words he just doesnt post at all (i think it was mafia resurrection with bc as host, i played under malongo id). Iif you look at his voting pattern he has been an early voter both times, hinting that he doesnt want to die to a modkill but that he is not interested into posting (he has like 3 posts). More than anything voting just too early for a bandwagonably (if thats a word) player (Gabriel). Now it is pretty clear that he is not blue and it doesnt make sense for him to be green. He is the kind of player that just afk in that case without voting. | ||
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On December 19 2010 21:47 dinmsab wrote: Gabe hates me for voting him, that is all there is to it. I've always voted gabe because early on non of the arguments were convincing to me, I was probably the only dude or so actually voting for the dude to get lynched. Despite how much hate he gives me, deep inside I still love gabe and his silly arguments. Gabe for president. <3 I love you too man. But have to realize that it is hard to put you as an apathic townie at this point, because you always voted quickly (i dont care who you voted). Given all the bullcrap we are getting now im going to re-state everything unless LSB comes with something incredible. | ||
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On December 20 2010 04:28 LSB wrote: Well, if we're going to lynch lurkers, we'd better do it in a way that we can insure it is random Random? Why random? | ||
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On December 20 2010 04:46 LSB wrote: Because I'm super paranoid that your mafia and just picked two inactive townies Same here but im not giving up on Dinmsab. You can take the other are you ok about that? | ||
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* Dinmsab has done almost no effort to play this game. If you read his posts here they fit a lot more in BCs mafia, when he was townie he just posted one liners. * I was trying to get an idea from the claimed MH. Since he had votes he could have asked to get him lynched as Shockeyy was getting lynched anyways and i have been in the spotlight all game long. Maybe im just that sicko but if they give me a MH someday im going to put my bombs and ask town to lynch me. Now that reread Dinmsabs posting from you im almost sure he is mafia. Just read his posts here: do they look like oneliners? The content he posts here is almost the same as BCs mafia (where he was mafia), trying to look participative (he made up a list or something about the first voters). Conclusion: Probably town: As mafia he put some effort into his posts.??? Not that i want to go against you but just by looking at his posting here they dont look like one-liners at all. I mean if we are going to compare his activity here to BCs or Incognitos posting id say they look a lot more like the first. | ||
Gabriel
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On December 20 2010 05:36 Infundibulum wrote: ...big pile of quote... I think we also need to look at inactives - BrownBear, Oceanic, chaoser, are names that have been bugging me. Chaoser was modkilled, Oceanic doesnt look like mafia because he voted double lynch early but i have no other reason not to vote him. Brownbear. Well. He is voting 3d go figure. | ||
Gabriel
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On December 21 2010 10:39 Node wrote: Seeing as nobody else has claimed Alakazam, it'd be pretty great if someone could switch their vote off me so I don't get lynched. I believe after my vote I'm tied with dinmsab, and IIRC the first player to the high number of votes (me) gets lynched. I promise that if I don't get lynched I'll die tonight, just to satisfy you guys. <3 I wasnt voting you anyways unless another guy claimed dt. | ||
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On December 21 2010 13:49 dinmsab wrote: Congrats to TR, you played the votes well. To Gabriel, you either are a very good mafia or a very stupid townie, awesome analysis that you did there. GG guys. -_- nice to get a reaction from you. | ||
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On December 21 2010 15:01 Kavdragon wrote: Wait. LSB. You claim Cloyster? You honestly thought that there could be THREE of them? WTF mate, Why didn't you counter claim when Gabe claimed Cloyster? This smells strongly of scum. The likely hood of there being three is little to none, and I can't see how you could have assumed that when Gabe claimed. Could LSB really be Scum? It seems unlikely, but given how well mafia seem to have played so far, and given this slip-up in light of a huge blow to the town, I'm seriously reconsidering him. i guess it was an understatment that i wasnt really claiming. the moment lsb agreed to put me there i put him on cloyster position. im plain green. | ||
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On December 21 2010 15:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: This sort of attitude is unacceptable in mafia games. I'll be requesting a very long ban for you. What? really? what is wrong here? mafia won im just stating it. | ||
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Gabriel
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We were on lylo- we missed- GG- i dont get the point. Well i really have to go now, sorry i was waiting to see some actual celebration. | ||
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