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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
OH GOD PROBULOUS edit: came back for my birthday :D. Someone post a mini quick x_x | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Is anybody interested in a completely automated mafia system compatible with each forum it's used on? For instance, a system where threads are created automatically, day/night posts are done automatically, night actions are resolved automatically, role PMs are sent automatically, etc (but fully configurable by an admin or even the host of the game)? Because in OMGUS me and some guys (well....1 other guy >_> ) want to try and develop such system, and to do so we'd need some help. I don't guarantee that we'll finish it soon or even at all since it's a lot of stuff and we are just 2 dudes and we don't really have much experience/knowledge (although we do know quite a bit of stuff); but hey with help we could make it a reality I guess, and I'm quite excited about it. If it's okay for me to put a link I'll edit this post and put it later. EDIT: It could have any feature you want to be honest (we are still in the process of figuring out what it can have  )For instance the Game Queuing can be fully automated so Foolishness and Co don't have to waste so much time doing it. In you guys's case it could automate this whole "balance crew" thing GMarshall and others have going where they regulate setups as well (although this would be, for this moment, only useful to TL Mafia and maybe not other forums). If you can think of it and we have the time+work force we can do it. If you are an expert in software engineering (I'm still in my 3rd year so I have some ways to go  ) then your help, at least as a consultant would be appreciatedEDIT: Also, yeah I didn't know if this was the correct place to put this so feel free to change it to a relevant topic | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Otherwise I support you in your endeavor! | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
On November 19 2012 04:54 Foolishness wrote: Zona made a bot which, for all intensive purposes, ran the game for the host (did all the vote counts, etc.). Though he hasn't been around here in a while you might consider talking to him about it. Otherwise I support you in your endeavor! I, too, welcome our new machine overlords. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Most of all I want to create a "proper" system that can be used here, or in OMGUS and be easily customized. depending on the forum and which features you want and the like. Some features for instance would require the forum to change. For instance creating a new page called "Game Creation" where you can create a game/setup. OMGUS is Coag's site so we can change it as we please, but I don't know that much about here; so some features should be able to be used in some sites while not on others and the system should be able to know that. Designing that stuff is kind of hard :/ We are also at an impasse regarding Roles and mechanics (since there can, theoretically, be any role with any mechanic ever, like a vampire who can suck blood twice per night, and he can convert werewolves but can be killed if a garlic farmer targets him with a garlic necklace and he also wins by being lynched by Dracula) and how to implement that. Everything else is going okay for now. Those are basically the two "problems" we have at the moment. Oh, yeah. I guess making it a "professional" software (with maintenance, updates and all that stuff) would be kind of difficult as well since I have no idea how to do that >_> But anyways....yeah I feel good about this | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On November 19 2012 08:53 deconduo wrote: Have a look at epicmafia, it has a lot of the stuff you are talking about. Can you hack into their source code for me? :D Although seriously....yeah it'd be great to know how they implemented some of their stuff (sadly I don't think we could get that info )But yeah I was thinking about it a while ago as well and wondering how they did some stuff. Although their games are "simpler" than in forum-based mafia. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Would it be possible/plausible to change the implementation of Team Liquid for specific features of this system? For instance (like stated above) create a feature where users can submit new setups/games/roles in a way (with a form inside the site for instance), or have the system send users PMs without the need to have the "system" be a user/bot, etc? Or would it be impossible basically and would not get any authorization? | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
E: basically it's not gonna happen as far as changing the forum itself, I can pretty much guarantee this. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On November 19 2012 09:26 Keirathi wrote: Who's working on it with you? What language are you writing it in? Another user in OMGUS, and Wiggles offered his help. We'll write it in java since it's more "accessible" and "easier to understand". Those are important features I want to keep. For instance so it's easier to create modifications later, or to create new features for specific forums, etc. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On November 19 2012 09:29 Keirathi wrote: I'm going to say 99% not possible. Okay my work got 50% harder then | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
I might be interested in helping. I was already thinking about changing my c++ generator to be a "mafia helper" that would do vote counts, send out role PMs, etc etc, although its written in C# (which is basically Java but better!). | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On November 19 2012 09:29 Blazinghand wrote: I can do regular expressions and python, which might be the skillset you'd want for a programming a bot that scrapes pages for commands. If you want it to deal with stuff like PMs you probably will want to talk to prplhz or zona, both of whom have successfully programmed/run bots iirc E: basically it's not gonna happen as far as changing the forum itself, I can pretty much guarantee this. I don't want to create something that has to check the forum to see votes/etc. I want the votes to be automatically sent to the system, where it can easily manipulate them there. ...although I guess that will have to be done in here if we aren't allowed to change anything about the forum. I take it that in TL's case, the system will have to be a "3rd party" with bots dealing with PMs/create posts/create threads and the like? Is that the only way to interact with the forum in a "programmable" fashion? This is one of those "problems" I was mentioning, because in OMGUS we are planning to do everything automatically including using and creating features in the forum. This would mean we'd have to basically create 2 different system of interaction between the forum and the system, one for OMGUS and another one for TL (or any forum that doesn't want to include new features). I'm having this exact same talk in OMGUS (well, I'm mostly talking to myself but whatever), which is why I want to make the system as "portable" and "easy to use" as possible. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On November 19 2012 09:34 Keirathi wrote: Oh java. One of the languages I actually know! I might be interested in helping. I was already thinking about changing my c++ generator to be a "mafia helper" that would do vote counts, send out role PMs, etc etc, although its written in C# (which is basically Java but better!). After having to program network systems in C.....I don't ever want to even speak about it again >_> | ||
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