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On November 01 2010 08:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Node's role is very easy to fake btw. If he is mafia he needs only to claim "this person will die and I know it" and then kill them that night.
If he is actually the suicide bomber this would be a very smart play.
All I can really say is that I'm telling the truth. :/ That's part of the reason I waited until the last moment to say that I knew BrownBear was going to die -- it doesn't help the mafia. The other part of the reason is it's obviously bad for the mafia to have someone reveal a target every day, and doing so would put my own life in danger. That's why I briefly considered a mayoral run. If you look at my past posts regarding the role it's something I've been setting up for awhile.
On November 01 2010 08:54 Misder wrote:
@Node
Why were you informed that BB would die so late last cycle, but now you are informed that DXC is going to die so early in this cycle?
I was informed at the beginning of Day 1 that quickstriker was going to die, but he went and got modkilled, at which point I got a PM saying that BrownBear was next in line. I explained why I waited to reveal my knowledge of BrownBear's death earlier in this post.
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I'm only putting a lot on you because you're the mayor. Your actions count more than the others'. At least in my view.
I never said you said "for sure" that you got role-blocked, but you're the one that said that you could have had been role-blocked (god, English, stop being so twisted). So naturally, it made me suspicious.
Of all the people that I want to be sure of, you're the most important. I was hoping to be able to role-check you SOMEHOW (not necessarily by poking me), and if we can't, it's frustrating.
Even more so that we can't actually believe ANYTHING that's happening or anything that anyone says (even though they might believe it themselves).
So put all that together with the fact that we still no nothing about our mayor during day 2, makes me itch. I want something that I can be at least semi-confident in, in this insane game. I'm sorry if it seems like rage towards you, but as I said, I have most suspicion and most faith going towards you.
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On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it?
The role is called "Oracle".
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On November 01 2010 09:05 CubEdIn wrote:
I'm only putting a lot on you because you're the mayor. Your actions count more than the others'. At least in my view.
I never said you said "for sure" that you got role-blocked, but you're the one that said that you could have had been role-blocked (god, English, stop being so twisted). So naturally, it made me suspicious.
Of all the people that I want to be sure of, you're the most important. I was hoping to be able to role-check you SOMEHOW (not necessarily by poking me), and if we can't, it's frustrating.
Even more so that we can't actually believe ANYTHING that's happening or anything that anyone says (even though they might believe it themselves).
So put all that together with the fact that we still no nothing about our mayor during day 2, makes me itch. I want something that I can be at least semi-confident in, in this insane game. I'm sorry if it seems like rage towards you, but as I said, I have most suspicion and most faith going towards you.
Because jcarlsoniv hasn't posted yet. Until he posts I can't make ANY conclusions about whether or not I may have been roleblocked or not.
You said "you posted that you got roleblocked", not that "You posted that you might have been roleblocked". Is that what you meant? Because if thats what you meant thats what you should have said.
What I meant by "putting a lot on me" is "implying I said things that I didn't say and drawing conclusions from my posts that I never came to in the first place".
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On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing
not very smart If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up. If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well: if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really. since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it? Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/ I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death. what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get
First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this.
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On November 01 2010 09:08 Misder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing
not very smart If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up. If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well: if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really. since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it? Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/ I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death. what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this.
Everything points to DXC being town in this case. No I don't know 100% that he is town. But if Node is telling the truth it seems the people dying are blues, not reds. If Node is a mafia lying about his role it doesn't make sense for them to single out red targets, it doesn't set up a possible play for the mafia in all likelihood (unless there is a mafia role that kills other mafia)
What is risky? Not having DXC die?
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On November 01 2010 09:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:05 CubEdIn wrote:
I'm only putting a lot on you because you're the mayor. Your actions count more than the others'. At least in my view.
I never said you said "for sure" that you got role-blocked, but you're the one that said that you could have had been role-blocked (god, English, stop being so twisted). So naturally, it made me suspicious.
Of all the people that I want to be sure of, you're the most important. I was hoping to be able to role-check you SOMEHOW (not necessarily by poking me), and if we can't, it's frustrating.
Even more so that we can't actually believe ANYTHING that's happening or anything that anyone says (even though they might believe it themselves).
So put all that together with the fact that we still no nothing about our mayor during day 2, makes me itch. I want something that I can be at least semi-confident in, in this insane game. I'm sorry if it seems like rage towards you, but as I said, I have most suspicion and most faith going towards you. Because jcarlsoniv hasn't posted yet. Until he posts I can't make ANY conclusions about whether or not I may have been roleblocked or not. You said "you posted that you got roleblocked", not that "You posted that you might have been roleblocked". Is that what you meant? Because if thats what you meant thats what you should have said. What I meant by "putting a lot on me" is "implying I said things that I didn't say and drawing conclusions from my posts that I never came to in the first place".
I understand what you're saying, but to me it makes no difference.
If you are blue, then you really don't know if you got role-blocked or not, and neither do we, and we'll find out eventually.
If you are red, then you could just imply that you could've been role-blocked (you don't need to say "oh I was surely role-blocked" when "umm, i think i may have been" will do just as well), and have the same outcome.
So I understand you being annoyed for me trying to put words in your mouth, but in fact, I just meant that you're either trustworthy (and you really have no idea), or untrustworthy (and you can state/imply/hint at) whatever you want to draw suspicion away.
I never elaborated on the fact that you knew you were role-blocked or not, I just said that (were you red), it would've been mighty convenient. I think that's the part of my original post that got misunderstood.
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On November 01 2010 08:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 08:42 CubEdIn wrote:
Well this is confusing.
So now, most of the game revolves around DrH.
If he manages to lynch a red tonight, we can be pretty sure he's townie.
Either way, the Mafia can either
- go for him, since he's the mayor and one bodyguard is dead
- not go for him, since if he lynches townies and we get a few more of these incriminating posts, the townies might turn against him eventually.
My main concern is that we really don't know if we should trust DrH or not. I was hoping on his poke revealing something, but he got (conveniently) role-blocked.
We should have some form of trust going on, but there's nothing of the kind.
I just hope some sort of Mafia dies, or we're gonna be sinking fast. The second part here is possibly a BIG slip up. Firstly, the mayor only decides the lynch on day 1. From now on we as a town vote together. My vote is worth 2 votes. Secondly how do you know if I was roleblocked? I don't even know that for sure. jcarlsoniv is the only one who can confirm whether I was roleblocked or not. The only way you could know if I was roleblocked, is if you are the roleblocker.
I'm not sure why you're trying to take so much out of what could have been a minor typo. It was you who told me earlier not to look at "unlikely situations" such as you actually being the Murrayitis source, but here you are trying to draw the conclusion that Cubedin is a roleblocker off of a couple words, despite the fact that he has not only given us the name of his role but the intricacies of it.
Cubed revealed at least as much about his role as you did about yours, so he should get the same level of town cred, right?
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On November 01 2010 09:14 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 08:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 08:42 CubEdIn wrote:
Well this is confusing.
So now, most of the game revolves around DrH.
If he manages to lynch a red tonight, we can be pretty sure he's townie.
Either way, the Mafia can either
- go for him, since he's the mayor and one bodyguard is dead
- not go for him, since if he lynches townies and we get a few more of these incriminating posts, the townies might turn against him eventually.
My main concern is that we really don't know if we should trust DrH or not. I was hoping on his poke revealing something, but he got (conveniently) role-blocked.
We should have some form of trust going on, but there's nothing of the kind.
I just hope some sort of Mafia dies, or we're gonna be sinking fast. The second part here is possibly a BIG slip up. Firstly, the mayor only decides the lynch on day 1. From now on we as a town vote together. My vote is worth 2 votes. Secondly how do you know if I was roleblocked? I don't even know that for sure. jcarlsoniv is the only one who can confirm whether I was roleblocked or not. The only way you could know if I was roleblocked, is if you are the roleblocker. I'm not sure why you're trying to take so much out of what could have been a minor typo. It was you who told me earlier not to look at "unlikely situations" such as you actually being the Murrayitis source, but here you are trying to draw the conclusion that Cubedin is a roleblocker off of a couple words, despite the fact that he has not only given us the name of his role but the intricacies of it. Cubed revealed at least as much about his role as you did about yours, so he should get the same level of town cred, right?
No I never accused him of being mafia. I never even put down an FoS or said he's probably mafia. I'm saying that only the mafia would know who did or didn't get roleblocked (assuming roleblocker is a mafia role) and that because I didn't say I got roleblocked it was strange that he posted as though he was sure of my roleblock when I wasn't.
More than likely he just misunderstood what I was saying, which is totally understandable. I didn't tell people not to look at the situation that I might be spreading murrayitis... in fact I even suggested plague doctors could visit the person I confirmed to make sure that wasn't the case. I said that several times.
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On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
Kingjames found something underneath his home. It was a giant pumpkin. Luckily for him the giant pumpkin wasn’t dangerous. However, the Giant Potato that was right beside it blew up and killed him
To me, Kingjames was by far one of the most pro-town players in the game. Even though we don't know about his role, the stuff he brings up are all very solid. Not surprising that Mafia choose to hit him, as back on page 39, I did say this.
On October 30 2010 14:27 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:25 kingjames01 wrote:
Although he seems sincere, it is also a possibility that DrH does not realize he's anti-town.
Consider for a moment:
An Insane Cop does not know that his actions are opposite to what he expects.
This is an Insane Mafia game.
Perhaps there are actually a lot of Insane roles in this game.
As I've said before, a truly Insane game must be, by definition, unpredictable. What I mean to say is, we, as players, need to stop relying on what we KNOW from the past and start playing based on the set of rules that we infer from this game ONLY.
It would not be fair for the mods to change the rules mid-game, but it is completely in their power to take advantage of our preconceptions on what a Mafia game is. Remember, this is INSANE MAFIA.
If I were a medic, I would protect this man.
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On November 01 2010 09:13 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:05 CubEdIn wrote:
I'm only putting a lot on you because you're the mayor. Your actions count more than the others'. At least in my view.
I never said you said "for sure" that you got role-blocked, but you're the one that said that you could have had been role-blocked (god, English, stop being so twisted). So naturally, it made me suspicious.
Of all the people that I want to be sure of, you're the most important. I was hoping to be able to role-check you SOMEHOW (not necessarily by poking me), and if we can't, it's frustrating.
Even more so that we can't actually believe ANYTHING that's happening or anything that anyone says (even though they might believe it themselves).
So put all that together with the fact that we still no nothing about our mayor during day 2, makes me itch. I want something that I can be at least semi-confident in, in this insane game. I'm sorry if it seems like rage towards you, but as I said, I have most suspicion and most faith going towards you. Because jcarlsoniv hasn't posted yet. Until he posts I can't make ANY conclusions about whether or not I may have been roleblocked or not. You said "you posted that you got roleblocked", not that "You posted that you might have been roleblocked". Is that what you meant? Because if thats what you meant thats what you should have said. What I meant by "putting a lot on me" is "implying I said things that I didn't say and drawing conclusions from my posts that I never came to in the first place". I understand what you're saying, but to me it makes no difference. If you are blue, then you really don't know if you got role-blocked or not, and neither do we, and we'll find out eventually. If you are red, then you could just imply that you could've been role-blocked (you don't need to say "oh I was surely role-blocked" when "umm, i think i may have been" will do just as well), and have the same outcome. So I understand you being annoyed for me trying to put words in your mouth, but in fact, I just meant that you're either trustworthy (and you really have no idea), or untrustworthy (and you can state/imply/hint at) whatever you want to draw suspicion away. I never elaborated on the fact that you knew you were role-blocked or not, I just said that (were you red), it would've been mighty convenient. I think that's the part of my original post that got misunderstood.
Alright. That's very fair.
Before we go any further with this I think it's best we wait for jcarlsoniv to post. We're talking way too much about the possibility of me being roleblocked when we can't possibly know until jcarls confirms that I poked him anyway.
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On November 01 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:08 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing
not very smart If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up. If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well: if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really. since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it? Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/ I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death. what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this. Everything points to DXC being town in this case. No I don't know 100% that he is town. But if Node is telling the truth it seems the people dying are blues, not reds. If Node is a mafia lying about his role it doesn't make sense for them to single out red targets, it doesn't set up a possible play for the mafia in all likelihood (unless there is a mafia role that kills other mafia) What is risky? Not having DXC die?
The risk that it may be a set up by the mafia (less likely now, discussed later in the post). And that it would be a waste (remember, his role says that DXC is going to die, which implies that there is no way to save him).
Note that I wrote my post before I read Node's latest posts. So Node seems to be hinting that there is a list that the mods have that kills people one by one. Quickstriker was first, then BB, then DXC. This seems like a random list, as Quickstricker was inactive and not a target that mafia would want to kill, and BB was pretty inactive too and also not a target that mafia would want to kill. DXC is someone that mafia would want to kill as he softclaimed bodygaurd, but if we follow the pattern, it isn't the mafia that chooses this list. This also implies that Node is town, and isn't setting this up.
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On November 01 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:08 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing
not very smart If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up. If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well: if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really. since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it? Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/ I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death. what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this. Everything points to DXC being town in this case. No I don't know 100% that he is town. But if Node is telling the truth it seems the people dying are blues, not reds. If Node is a mafia lying about his role it doesn't make sense for them to single out red targets, it doesn't set up a possible play for the mafia in all likelihood (unless there is a mafia role that kills other mafia) What is risky? Not having DXC die?
Everything points to DC being town, except:
1) he softclaimed bodyguard (by correcting Artanis on the definition, no less), when there was no good reason to do so. He then pretty much said it was intentional by saying "Artanis just confirmed my role." There's no good reason to do this as a townie.
2) He softclaimed bodyguard, and a (the only?) bodyguard just died.
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@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town?
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On November 01 2010 09:17 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:08 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing
not very smart If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up. If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well: if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really. since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it? Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/ I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death. what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this. Everything points to DXC being town in this case. No I don't know 100% that he is town. But if Node is telling the truth it seems the people dying are blues, not reds. If Node is a mafia lying about his role it doesn't make sense for them to single out red targets, it doesn't set up a possible play for the mafia in all likelihood (unless there is a mafia role that kills other mafia) What is risky? Not having DXC die? Everything points to DC being town, except: 1) he softclaimed bodyguard (by correcting Artanis on the definition, no less), when there was no good reason to do so. He then pretty much said it was intentional by saying "Artanis just confirmed my role." There's no good reason to do this as a townie. 2) He softclaimed bodyguard, and a (the only?) bodyguard just died.
His softclaim of bodyguard has yet to be confirmed by him. If he has a reason to do it as a townie I'd like him to tell us. He certainly has explaining to do, as well as Aeres, considering Annul was a bodyguard.
On November 01 2010 09:17 Misder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:08 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing
not very smart If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up. If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well: if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really. since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it? Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/ I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death. what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this. Everything points to DXC being town in this case. No I don't know 100% that he is town. But if Node is telling the truth it seems the people dying are blues, not reds. If Node is a mafia lying about his role it doesn't make sense for them to single out red targets, it doesn't set up a possible play for the mafia in all likelihood (unless there is a mafia role that kills other mafia) What is risky? Not having DXC die? The risk that it may be a set up by the mafia (less likely now, discussed later in the post). And that it would be a waste (remember, his role says that DXC is going to die, which implies that there is no way to save him). Note that I wrote my post before I read Node's latest posts. So Node seems to be hinting that there is a list that the mods have that kills people one by one. Quickstriker was first, then BB, then DXC. This seems like a random list, as Quickstricker was inactive and not a target that mafia would want to kill, and BB was pretty inactive too and also not a target that mafia would want to kill. DXC is someone that mafia would want to kill as he softclaimed bodygaurd, but if we follow the pattern, it isn't the mafia that chooses this list. This also implies that Node is town, and isn't setting this up.
I feel that he is likely town. Considering the potential danger of his role if he is mafia it's best to keep an eye on his posts closely, but I don't have any strong suspicions about him and I think his response to my initial proposition of the possibility that he could be mafia was fairly strong.
It could be an RNG'd list but I feel like it might be some sort of conditional kill. BrownBear's death said "he died for being good" that seems important to me and makes it seem unlikely that he was killed purely randomly.
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On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town?
Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me.
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I don't think doch is red. I think I would be dead now if he was.
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On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town? Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me.
Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet...
I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game.
On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis.
I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked.
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On November 01 2010 09:22 Lexpar wrote:
I don't think doch is red. I think I would be dead now if he was.
Don't get into WIFOM. I'm pretty sure your original statement became useless as soon as you stated it.
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On November 01 2010 09:22 Lexpar wrote:
I don't think doch is red. I think I would be dead now if he was.
Great, now mind telling us why you think that?
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