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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2010 23:49 GMT
#1481
So three people died tonight, Remember that one post of Artanis where he said that mafia has 2+1 KP? That must mean that mafia had access to that extra 1 KP. Whether or not that can be accessed every day, we do not know (it might be that they can only have extra every other day or something like that), but maybe we can find out what role that gains that extra 1 KP. I think its the Giant Potato, but its hard to tell in the night post.

On November 01 2010 08:19 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
During the night, hardly anyone can sleep. It wasn't just all the trick or treaters, everyone was busy doing something.

One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy

Annul decided to stalk his favorite person. However, after he put on his black clothes, black mask, and black gloves. Someone helped him by wrapping a black scarf around his neck. Killing him.
Afterwards a completely different person arrived, played on the tire swing for a while, and left.



I'm pretty sure both bolded parts are the describing Annul and his death. So someone switched places with him (kidnapped?). I think we have to be careful of the guy who switched places with him. If we get any references to similar activities between one person and Annul, we can almost gaurantee that that person is mafia.
Whaaaa?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2010 23:49 GMT
#1482
On November 01 2010 08:48 Glasse wrote:
Yea i do think you are red, but its from my instinct.
I guess if the guy that made the message in the post was trying to look like me he could of said it to make everyone think it was me...

Why though? I feel like putting a message in the post is not a super power unless he can mess with other things in the whole day post.

Yeah I agree with the latter part.

Instinct doesn't mean much here. If anything it's a convenient way to point suspicion on me and then call it instinct to back out of explaining it. I don't think you're red in fact I had previous suspicions that you mayyyyy be the village idiot. Not sure now.
RIP Aaliyah
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 31 2010 23:50 GMT
#1483
On November 01 2010 08:47 CubEdIn wrote:

I think that the town got stripped of way too many things at once (clues, ok, but PMs as welll?, having faith in mods or their own roles?!), and if mafia don't have their own back-firing mechanics, then it's safe to say that the town is pretty much screwed.


Maybe this is so insane that if the mafia win they all die and we get to eat them like ice cream because we won.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 31 2010 23:51 GMT
#1484
On November 01 2010 08:49 Misder wrote:
So three people died tonight, Remember that one post of Artanis where he said that mafia has 2+1 KP? That must mean that mafia had access to that extra 1 KP. Whether or not that can be accessed every day, we do not know (it might be that they can only have extra every other day or something like that), but maybe we can find out what role that gains that extra 1 KP. I think its the Giant Potato, but its hard to tell in the night post.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:19 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
During the night, hardly anyone can sleep. It wasn't just all the trick or treaters, everyone was busy doing something.

One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy

Annul decided to stalk his favorite person. However, after he put on his black clothes, black mask, and black gloves. Someone helped him by wrapping a black scarf around his neck. Killing him.
Afterwards a completely different person arrived, played on the tire swing for a while, and left.



I'm pretty sure both bolded parts are the describing Annul and his death. So someone switched places with him (kidnapped?). I think we have to be careful of the guy who switched places with him. If we get any references to similar activities between one person and Annul, we can almost gaurantee that that person is mafia.

As a matter of fact, that exact part has been changed by LSB in a more recent edit.
Translator:3
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2010 23:51 GMT
#1485
Node's role is very easy to fake btw. If he is mafia he needs only to claim "this person will die and I know it" and then kill them that night.

If he is actually the suicide bomber this would be a very smart play.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2010 23:52 GMT
#1486
On November 01 2010 08:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:42 CubEdIn wrote:
Well this is confusing.

So now, most of the game revolves around DrH.

If he manages to lynch a red tonight, we can be pretty sure he's townie.
Either way, the Mafia can either
- go for him, since he's the mayor and one bodyguard is dead
- not go for him, since if he lynches townies and we get a few more of these incriminating posts, the townies might turn against him eventually.

My main concern is that we really don't know if we should trust DrH or not. I was hoping on his poke revealing something, but he got (conveniently) role-blocked.

We should have some form of trust going on, but there's nothing of the kind.
I just hope some sort of Mafia dies, or we're gonna be sinking fast.

The second part here is possibly a BIG slip up.

Firstly, the mayor only decides the lynch on day 1. From now on we as a town vote together. My vote is worth 2 votes.

Secondly how do you know if I was roleblocked? I don't even know that for sure. jcarlsoniv is the only one who can confirm whether I was roleblocked or not. The only way you could know if I was roleblocked, is if you are the roleblocker.


could you please respond to this Cubed?
RIP Aaliyah
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 31 2010 23:53 GMT
#1487
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing


not very smart
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
October 31 2010 23:53 GMT
#1488
On November 01 2010 08:51 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:49 Misder wrote:
So three people died tonight, Remember that one post of Artanis where he said that mafia has 2+1 KP? That must mean that mafia had access to that extra 1 KP. Whether or not that can be accessed every day, we do not know (it might be that they can only have extra every other day or something like that), but maybe we can find out what role that gains that extra 1 KP. I think its the Giant Potato, but its hard to tell in the night post.

On November 01 2010 08:19 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
During the night, hardly anyone can sleep. It wasn't just all the trick or treaters, everyone was busy doing something.

One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy

Annul decided to stalk his favorite person. However, after he put on his black clothes, black mask, and black gloves. Someone helped him by wrapping a black scarf around his neck. Killing him.
Afterwards a completely different person arrived, played on the tire swing for a while, and left.



I'm pretty sure both bolded parts are the describing Annul and his death. So someone switched places with him (kidnapped?). I think we have to be careful of the guy who switched places with him. If we get any references to similar activities between one person and Annul, we can almost gaurantee that that person is mafia.

As a matter of fact, that exact part has been changed by LSB in a more recent edit.

I didn't change that part
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 31 2010 23:54 GMT
#1489
Guys relax, right now we have some things going for us. Let's stop panicing and start working. First of all, we have some definite leads into the realm of mafia:
1.The Main 4: Fishball, Bum, me, and Dr. H. One of us is most likely mafia. All have had decent votes on us on at least one time, and I find it likely mafia would try to get a mayor elected.
2.The Bodyguards:
DXCVII, Aeres, and Annul. Annul's dead and confirmed, and the mods said there is only one bodyguard. Actually there is one slightly good thing about DXCVII dying, and that is if we decide we trust him instead of aeres, we can not lynch him and just let him die.
3.Analysis.
It's panda time. It's too late for me to do a good one right now, but I'll be laying down the smack down tommorow.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 31 2010 23:54 GMT
#1490
On November 01 2010 08:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:42 CubEdIn wrote:
Well this is confusing.

So now, most of the game revolves around DrH.

If he manages to lynch a red tonight, we can be pretty sure he's townie.
Either way, the Mafia can either
- go for him, since he's the mayor and one bodyguard is dead
- not go for him, since if he lynches townies and we get a few more of these incriminating posts, the townies might turn against him eventually.

My main concern is that we really don't know if we should trust DrH or not. I was hoping on his poke revealing something, but he got (conveniently) role-blocked.

We should have some form of trust going on, but there's nothing of the kind.
I just hope some sort of Mafia dies, or we're gonna be sinking fast.

The second part here is possibly a BIG slip up.

Firstly, the mayor only decides the lynch on day 1. From now on we as a town vote together. My vote is worth 2 votes.

Secondly how do you know if I was roleblocked? I don't even know that for sure. jcarlsoniv is the only one who can confirm whether I was roleblocked or not. The only way you could know if I was roleblocked, is if you are the roleblocker.


Sure, you're the one who posted that you got role-blocked.

You were supposed to poke me (you said so, if I recall correctly), which would have somewhat confirmed both our roles. You chose not to (and it's fair, you play the game however you want), and now nothing happened, but we're supposed to just believe that you actually DID something, but had no result. Why?

And yes, since you are the mayor, you have the most influence over the town, and not just because of the double vote. You wanted this, you are now the leader, it's basically your responsibility to hone in on Mafia. That's the way I see it, at least. Mayor doesn't only come with perks. It's only normal that if you lynch townies, people will start to think you're red.

Also:
"He found that his door got duct taped over so he couldn't get out. Luckly for him, he wouldn't have arrived at the right's person's home (some idiot kidnapped the people). As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy."

Why exactly are you assuming that it's either YOU got role-blocked or he's clean? Why can't it be that special actions on one guy (like jcarl) just won't work. I get the "door duct taped so he couldn't get out" but the rest of the text doesn't look like the other people got role-blocked. And in the end he's out of the house anyway, it doesn't make much sense.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2010 23:54 GMT
#1491
@Node
Why were you informed that BB would die so late last cycle, but now you are informed that DXC is going to die so early in this cycle?
Whaaaa?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 31 2010 23:56 GMT
#1492
On November 01 2010 08:54 Misder wrote:
@Node
Why were you informed that BB would die so late last cycle, but now you are informed that DXC is going to die so early in this cycle?


I thought of that too, but I think Node said way back that he knew of someone that was going to die. So he probably gets the information at the start of the Day, and didn't want to share it yesterday.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 31 2010 23:56 GMT
#1493
On November 01 2010 08:53 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:51 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:49 Misder wrote:
So three people died tonight, Remember that one post of Artanis where he said that mafia has 2+1 KP? That must mean that mafia had access to that extra 1 KP. Whether or not that can be accessed every day, we do not know (it might be that they can only have extra every other day or something like that), but maybe we can find out what role that gains that extra 1 KP. I think its the Giant Potato, but its hard to tell in the night post.

On November 01 2010 08:19 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy

Annul decided to stalk his favorite person. However, after he put on his black clothes, black mask, and black gloves. Someone helped him by wrapping a black scarf around his neck. Killing him.
Afterwards a completely different person arrived, played on the tire swing for a while, and left.



I'm pretty sure both bolded parts are the describing Annul and his death. So someone switched places with him (kidnapped?). I think we have to be careful of the guy who switched places with him. If we get any references to similar activities between one person and Annul, we can almost gaurantee that that person is mafia.

As a matter of fact, that exact part has been changed by LSB in a more recent edit.

I didn't change that part


On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy

This is your original Day post


On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
One poor dude? He found that his door got duct taped over so he couldn't get out. Luckly for him, he wouldn't have arrived at the right's person's home (some idiot kidnapped the people). As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy

This is your current Day post


I beg to differ, LSB.
Translator:3
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2010 23:57 GMT
#1494
On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing


not very smart


If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up.

If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well:
if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits

this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really.

since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it?
RIP Aaliyah
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 31 2010 23:57 GMT
#1495
Wait there's a role that can duct tape a door to keep someone inside?

Rofl that is amazing.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2010 00:00 GMT
#1496
I don't see why Node would tell us who would die if he was mafia. First of all, it was before the day ended, so if BB ended up getting protected(does that work?) mafia would lose one hit.

In addition, the 2kp+1 makes me think mafia have two kp, and that there is an additional kp they have. But why is it separate, that's what I'm wondering. Most likely, it has something to do with this. Since, as node pointed out, mafia couldn't predetermine their kills at the beginning.

DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 01 2010 00:00 GMT
#1497
On November 01 2010 08:54 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:42 CubEdIn wrote:
Well this is confusing.

So now, most of the game revolves around DrH.

If he manages to lynch a red tonight, we can be pretty sure he's townie.
Either way, the Mafia can either
- go for him, since he's the mayor and one bodyguard is dead
- not go for him, since if he lynches townies and we get a few more of these incriminating posts, the townies might turn against him eventually.

My main concern is that we really don't know if we should trust DrH or not. I was hoping on his poke revealing something, but he got (conveniently) role-blocked.

We should have some form of trust going on, but there's nothing of the kind.
I just hope some sort of Mafia dies, or we're gonna be sinking fast.

The second part here is possibly a BIG slip up.

Firstly, the mayor only decides the lynch on day 1. From now on we as a town vote together. My vote is worth 2 votes.

Secondly how do you know if I was roleblocked? I don't even know that for sure. jcarlsoniv is the only one who can confirm whether I was roleblocked or not. The only way you could know if I was roleblocked, is if you are the roleblocker.


Sure, you're the one who posted that you got role-blocked.

You were supposed to poke me (you said so, if I recall correctly), which would have somewhat confirmed both our roles. You chose not to (and it's fair, you play the game however you want), and now nothing happened, but we're supposed to just believe that you actually DID something, but had no result. Why?

And yes, since you are the mayor, you have the most influence over the town, and not just because of the double vote. You wanted this, you are now the leader, it's basically your responsibility to hone in on Mafia. That's the way I see it, at least. Mayor doesn't only come with perks. It's only normal that if you lynch townies, people will start to think you're red.

Also:
"He found that his door got duct taped over so he couldn't get out. Luckly for him, he wouldn't have arrived at the right's person's home (some idiot kidnapped the people). As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy."

Why exactly are you assuming that it's either YOU got role-blocked or he's clean? Why can't it be that special actions on one guy (like jcarl) just won't work. I get the "door duct taped so he couldn't get out" but the rest of the text doesn't look like the other people got role-blocked. And in the end he's out of the house anyway, it doesn't make much sense.


I said "I may have been roleblocked". I never EVER said I got role-blocked.

I decided to stick with jcarlsoniv because I thought after your roleclaim there was a higher chance you would be visited by mafia, a murrayitis spreader, or that you would even be roleblocked yourself. I thought for my first confirmation the best target would be a lower key player I felt was most likely town.

I'm not assuming that. There could very well be another manipulative role. If I was jcarls didn't receive a PM that means my role was somehow stopped from working by one method or another. The roleblock seems likely, but jcarls also could have been bussed, commuted, hidden, or any other infinite amount of possibilities.

All I did is bring up the possibility that I was roleblocked in the case that jcarls didn't get a pm which he has yet to even confirm. That's all. I never claimed to know, I never assumed it happened or would happen, and you're putting a lot onto me that I never said or implied.
RIP Aaliyah
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 01 2010 00:01 GMT
#1498
On November 01 2010 08:56 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:53 LSB wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:51 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:49 Misder wrote:
So three people died tonight, Remember that one post of Artanis where he said that mafia has 2+1 KP? That must mean that mafia had access to that extra 1 KP. Whether or not that can be accessed every day, we do not know (it might be that they can only have extra every other day or something like that), but maybe we can find out what role that gains that extra 1 KP. I think its the Giant Potato, but its hard to tell in the night post.

On November 01 2010 08:19 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy

Annul decided to stalk his favorite person. However, after he put on his black clothes, black mask, and black gloves. Someone helped him by wrapping a black scarf around his neck. Killing him.
Afterwards a completely different person arrived, played on the tire swing for a while, and left.



I'm pretty sure both bolded parts are the describing Annul and his death. So someone switched places with him (kidnapped?). I think we have to be careful of the guy who switched places with him. If we get any references to similar activities between one person and Annul, we can almost gaurantee that that person is mafia.

As a matter of fact, that exact part has been changed by LSB in a more recent edit.

I didn't change that part


Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy

This is your original Day post


Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
One poor dude? He found that his door got duct taped over so he couldn't get out. Luckly for him, he wouldn't have arrived at the right's person's home (some idiot kidnapped the people). As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy

This is your current Day post


I beg to differ, LSB.

Oh, I thought you were talking about annul.

Of course, I changed the part involving the poor guy. Thats cause Artanis was saying that the night post was too confusing
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 00:01 GMT
#1499
On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing


not very smart


If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up.

If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well:
if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits

this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really.

since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it?


Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/
I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death.
Whaaaa?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 01 2010 00:02 GMT
#1500
On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing


not very smart


If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up.

If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well:
if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits

this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really.

since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it?


Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/
I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death.


what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get
RIP Aaliyah
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