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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
*I have not read everything he said, just from a semi-quick look. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 08 2010 10:56 Ace wrote: I don't know why you chose Amber. I said it's convenient that you chose him after he was cleared. I stated the night I watched him and he then confirmed he did not make an action on that date. There is no convenience as he did not reveal his actions prior to my declaration. Your argument is wrong. On November 08 2010 10:58 Ace wrote: I've been saying Pandain is Scum for like what, 3 days now? But I'm just shocked that no one else is noticing these bandwagon votes coming out of no where. How many lurkers have we seen just jump out of the woodwork. Pandain, look at Ace throwing you under the bus. I know Ace and I are of opposite alignments. I can see the possibility of you being a mislead town who bought into Ace's deceptive argument. That's why I have not pushed against you while you target me. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Because I'm trying to defend accusations of being Scum, instead of telling you my role that means I must be scum? How does that even make SENSE?! Is anyone reading this thread? | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
On November 08 2010 11:07 Ace wrote: Did you miss the part where I said I'm not roleclaiming? Why the hell would I not try to deny I'm scum? Because I'm trying to defend accusations of being Scum, instead of telling you my role that means I must be scum? How does that even make SENSE?! Is anyone reading this thread? hmm it makes sense to me, idk, maybe i could word it better. anyway back to work now i don't wanna get fired for 2 much internetz lol. ill check back around midnight | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On November 08 2010 11:07 kitaman27 wrote: I stated the night I watched him and he then confirmed he did not make an action on that date. There is no convenience as he did not reveal his actions prior to my declaration. Your argument is wrong. Pandain, look at Ace throwing you under the bus. I know Ace and I are of opposite alignments. I can see the possibility of you being a mislead town who bought into Ace's deceptive argument. That's why I have not pushed against you while you target me. READ! Amber never did anything for 3 nights. He never talked about having a role. So you choosing him isn't a big gamble - it's convenient. Why aren't you answering the other questions about your role not making sense with the rest of the game? You also don't think it's convenient that after Inf admits he hasn't used his role yet and that Is says he checked Inf you claim to have tracked/watched Inf Night 1? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On November 08 2010 11:07 kitaman27 wrote: I stated the night I watched him and he then confirmed he did not make an action on that date. There is no convenience as he did not reveal his actions prior to my declaration. Your argument is wrong. Pandain, look at Ace throwing you under the bus. I know Ace and I are of opposite alignments. I can see the possibility of you being a mislead town who bought into Ace's deceptive argument. That's why I have not pushed against you while you target me. Honestly you fake claimed a role. I find it a definite possibility that you are just a scum who fadoodled up. My previous suspicions of ace are below the new doubt about you. Here: Artanis, did you screw up any role PMs? | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On November 08 2010 11:09 Pandain wrote: Honestly you fake claimed a role. I find it a definite possibility that you are just a scum who fadoodled up. My previous suspicions of ace are below the new doubt about you. Here: Artanis, did you screw up any role PMs? No | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
Hi Artanis! | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Yo LSB, your the best | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 08 2010 11:09 Ace wrote: READ! Amber never did anything for 3 nights. He never talked about having a role. So you choosing him isn't a big gamble - it's convenient. Why aren't you answering the other questions about your role not making sense with the rest of the game? You also don't think it's convenient that after Inf admits he hasn't used his role yet and that Is says he checked Inf you claim to have tracked/watched Inf Night 1? No that is wrong. Him not talking about having a role does not give me information on whether or not he used his role. You never talked about your role yet you did indeed make a night action last night. See the contradiction? I can only give you what my role says, but I'm sure you know that by now, as that is what you continue to push. Inf admitting to not using his role yet does not weaken my argument, it just doesn't confirm it. You are clutching at straws. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
My role was called the "Paranoid Gun Owner," however it did not function as a traditional PGO and worked in a different way. When I roleclaimed with my information in order to out a false claim from the reds, the mafia instantly jumped on the fact that the way my PGO role functioned was different from the standard, and said that therefore I was lying. They successfully got me lynched, even though I was telling the truth,* and I don't know why the host called it PGO when it didn't work like a traditional PGO but that's how it went. Seem familiar? Sometimes hosts have roles with similar names but different functionality. *at some point during this citi.zen took over my role because I missed a vote, but he still had the same role name etc. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
Here is his roleclaim: he rolechecked Pandain during Night 2 On November 07 2010 08:22 KtheZ wrote: Considering that the state of the town is in complete disarray, I will now roleclaim. I am the detective. However, I suspect that I am an "insane detective". The reasons and my finding will be below. On night 1, I forgot to investigate anyone, being the lurker dumbass I was. On night 2, I investigated Pandain. I found him to be the MAFIA Garbage collector. On night 3, I investigated infinitestory, and found him to be the MAFIA ADD detective. Now, what the hell? Why would the mafia have an ADD Detective? This has led me to conclude that I am insane. Now, assuming I'm an insane detective, it is apparent that Pandain and infinitestory are town-aligned. I am no longer into lynching pandain; I had found him to be mafia, which is why i was so ardent in pursuing his lynch. I feel that infinitestory's results are now trustworthy, and that pandain did not lie about his role. If you think I am lying, look at my posts against pandain. I was so one-mindedly pursuing pandain because I thought he was mafia. However, this night has confirmed my sad suspicion that I am "insane". Now here are his post in day 3 right after he checked Pandain: On November 04 2010 10:30 KtheZ wrote: Pandain, anyone can scream unconfirmable role if they decide to roleclaim. Why hasnt Dr.H? And why are you the FIRST PERSON in the game to claim this? Also, at least giving details on the CONDITIONS that need to be achieved so you can confirm your role would be nice, instead of this vague stuff we keep getting. On November 04 2010 10:56 KtheZ wrote: The main purpose of a DT check is to check ALIGNMENT. Other tidbits are just useful to know. Having two ALIGNMENT DTs in a game doesnt make sense. For example, in haunted mafia(which i failed epically and will make up for), there were 2 dts for 60 people. Now, considering that we have ~ 30-40 people, I find it Extremely unlikely that town has TWO RANDOM ALIGNMENT CHECKERS. For all we know, you could be scum; you never claimed alignment (But you'll obviously claim town). And for all we know you could be lying about your role, your role actions, or anything you want. EBWODP On November 04 2010 11:09 KtheZ wrote: I noticed, which is why I think hes lying about his role/role action On November 04 2010 10:58 KtheZ wrote: take into consideration that in your case, the mafia had a PD. And pandain is most likely lying about his role/role action WTF, he thinks Pandain's lying about his role when he should've checked him by now? KtheZ's main argument against Pandain was that his role was "unconfirmable" when according to his role claim he should've confirmed Pandain's role at that point of the game. Now then, what conclusions can we draw from this? | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On November 08 2010 11:09 Ace wrote: READ! Amber never did anything for 3 nights. He never talked about having a role. So you choosing him isn't a big gamble - it's convenient. Why aren't you answering the other questions about your role not making sense with the rest of the game? You also don't think it's convenient that after Inf admits he hasn't used his role yet and that Is says he checked Inf you claim to have tracked/watched Inf Night 1? Who said I never did anything? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
You come out and say Amber didn't perform a night action. How is that a big gamble? Inf admitted he hasn't used his role. You come out and say Inf never performed a Night Action. That isn't convenient to you? you STILL haven't explained why your claim doesn't include me visiting someone. Watcher and Tracker will never say Ace was found at the scene of the crime. It will say I visited player x. So if I killed someone last night then who did I kill? You can't say because you're lying. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On November 08 2010 11:21 Ace wrote: Inf admitted he hasn't used his role. You come out and say Inf never performed a Night Action. my role can only do an action during Day. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
So, here are my conclusions from my previous post 1. KtheZ lied 2. He either wanted to confirm Pandain or infinitestory to the town | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
He said you didn't visit anyone the night he checked you. I said you never said anything about your role. Hence it's not a gamble to think you didn't do anything. He makes it sound as if me claiming he chose to check you is a big argument when it's not. I was saying he picked 2 players that had no information revealed about their Night Actions as part of his claim. Hence it's convenient. @Inf: Yea I was the mod that game. But I did not mix up your role description. What we have here is someone claiming Watcher, with Tracker powers but is missing the "Ace targeted/visited Player X" part. He claims I was involved in the killing last night but can't tell us who I killed. So how is his role legit? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 08 2010 11:21 Ace wrote: Amber never says he has role. You come out and say Amber didn't perform a night action. How is that a big gamble? How isn't it? I have no information whether or not Amber performed a night action. Just because he doesn't role claim, doesn't mean he hasn't done anything all game. On November 08 2010 11:21 Ace wrote: Inf admitted he hasn't used his role. You come out and say Inf never performed a Night Action. That isn't convenient to you? If you look back, I was the first person to tell infinitestory not to reveal infundibulum's role. 0/2. On November 08 2010 11:21 Ace wrote: you STILL haven't explained why your claim doesn't include me visiting someone. Watcher and Tracker will never say Ace was found at the scene of the crime. I never realized you had access to the role list. Mind if I get a copy? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On November 08 2010 11:22 Infundibulum wrote: my role can only do an action during Day. oh ok, guess that solves that. He still claimed it after I posted your quote from earlier here: On November 08 2010 04:53 Infundibulum wrote: It doesn't really matter, because my role doesn't do a whole lot. I haven't even used it this game :p This was posted before he claimed. You don't think it's convenient that after you say this he claimed he checked you Night 1? | ||
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