On November 08 2010 13:50 youngminii wrote: Oh right, so instead of helping the town's vote, you waste your vote and let the mafia have a greater stake in the vote? Right now there are 5 mafia votes influencing the vote and 14 towns trying to avoid lynching town. By you not voting, you're giving the mafia more relative voting power since now there are only 13 serious town votes. Repeat for every person that does that shit and we have a dead town.
This is stupidly scummy play. I hope you get lynched, if you don't there's seriously something wrong going on here.
if he's abstaining from a vote while being scum, that helps us even more, and so be it then
impulsive shit like this got our cruiseship captain killed
On November 08 2010 13:10 youngminii wrote: This is the biggest shitfest right now.
I'm voting for kitaman for obvious reasons, AS YOU SHOULD BE TOO, and I'll be voting for KtheZ for also screwing up a few times and his post right above me (voting off Hyperbola, Nemesis and double lynch, if this doesn't scream mafia I don't know what does).
I repeat: Kitaman and KtheZ.
Also, I'm still fishing around for someone to vote for, so youngminii could you elaborate as to why kitaman is "obvious"?
On November 08 2010 13:10 youngminii wrote: This is the biggest shitfest right now.
I'm voting for kitaman for obvious reasons, AS YOU SHOULD BE TOO, and I'll be voting for KtheZ for also screwing up a few times and his post right above me (voting off Hyperbola, Nemesis and double lynch, if this doesn't scream mafia I don't know what does).
I repeat: Kitaman and KtheZ.
Also, I'm still fishing around for someone to vote for, so youngminii could you elaborate as to why kitaman is "obvious"?
did you miss the several pages long discussion on kitaman's watcher/tracker/whatever role name incongruency?
On November 08 2010 13:10 youngminii wrote: This is the biggest shitfest right now.
I'm voting for kitaman for obvious reasons, AS YOU SHOULD BE TOO, and I'll be voting for KtheZ for also screwing up a few times and his post right above me (voting off Hyperbola, Nemesis and double lynch, if this doesn't scream mafia I don't know what does).
I repeat: Kitaman and KtheZ.
Also, I'm still fishing around for someone to vote for, so youngminii could you elaborate as to why kitaman is "obvious"?
did you miss the several pages long discussion on kitaman's watcher/tracker/whatever role name incongruency?
Oh yeah that was him. I keep forgetting whos who. Silly me.
On November 08 2010 13:10 youngminii wrote: This is the biggest shitfest right now.
I'm voting for kitaman for obvious reasons, AS YOU SHOULD BE TOO, and I'll be voting for KtheZ for also screwing up a few times and his post right above me (voting off Hyperbola, Nemesis and double lynch, if this doesn't scream mafia I don't know what does).
I repeat: Kitaman and KtheZ.
Also, I'm still fishing around for someone to vote for, so youngminii could you elaborate as to why kitaman is "obvious"?
did you miss the several pages long discussion on kitaman's watcher/tracker/whatever role name incongruency?
That's not obvious, that's Ace's desperate attempt to discredit me when I revealed he was scum. Also KtheZ, did you really just change your vote based on the opinion of someone who is calling for your lynch? I am a Dt who discovered Ace is mafia. Don't fall for this deception.
I have to ask you young, why are you so easily willing to accept that I'm mafia, but reject my argument that Ace is? You earlier stated the importance of lowering the mafia kp, yet now you are voting for me and KtheZ, which have no relation to each other? Either you are defending a scum buddy or your analysis disappointments me.
On November 08 2010 11:37 Ace wrote: If it doesn't make you innocent then it makes you guilty. Wtf?
Either you misinterpreted what I wrote or I don't get what this is supposed to mean. Not sure which.
On November 08 2010 11:37 Ace wrote: Amber has not claimed. Amber has not said anything about his night Actions. How does that make you innocent? I said it's not a gamble because Amber never revealed information. You say it makes you innocent. HOW does that make any sense?
I'm not sure if you are just hoping people read this an accept it as fact or what.
Here is a time-line for you: Amber reveals no information about his role I claimed Amber did not leave his house night two. Amber verifies that he did not leave his house night two. Profit.
On November 08 2010 11:37 Ace wrote: There is only 1 thing in your entire claim that makes sense. But the fact that you so readily assumed I am Mafia based on it just shows me your bullshitting.
What might that be? I would love to agree on something.
Ok, I was just sifting through the thread, and I coudln't really find anything to relate to the ace-kitaman thing going on now. For now I'm going back to voting hyperbola as a placeholder. I'm not really sure what to make of this Ace-kitaman situation yet.
I feel like there is a good chance that kitaman is lying, but there is also a chance that he is telling the truth. Until some more new information comes up, my vote will be in hyperbola as it seems that he doesn't even care about this game as he hasn't even posted once this day phase.
We just had a long, long argument about why you can't be a Watcher or Tracker. But you clearly just said you are a detective who discovered Ace is Mafia.
If thats the case why even argue about Watcher/Tracker? Your original post says:
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
You did not say Ace is Mafia. You said Ace was involved in the hit. So you can't be a detective or you would have said plainly you investigated me to be Scum.
You can't be a Watcher/Tracker because you don't have a target. If you were a legit Watcher/Tracker we wouldn't be having this conversation. I asked you WHO I'm linked to and you can't tell me. If you are a watcher/tracker then WHAT hit was I involved in last night? Are you really selling that the mod told you "Ace was involved in last night's hit" when there were 5 dead people?
We just had a long, long argument about why you can't be a Watcher or Tracker. But you clearly just said you are a detective who discovered Ace is Mafia.
If thats the case why even argue about Watcher/Tracker? Your original post says:
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
You did not say Ace is Mafia. You said Ace was involved in the hit. So you can't be a detective or you would have said plainly you investigated me to be Scum.
Nope, I'm still a watcher. I said dt because I'm a detective variation. I can check a role type, but only when they leave their house.
You can't be a Watcher/Tracker because you don't have a target. If you were a legit Watcher/Tracker we wouldn't be having this conversation. I asked you WHO I'm linked to and you can't tell me. If you are a watcher/tracker then WHAT hit was I involved in last night? Are you really selling that the mod told you "Ace was involved in last night's hit" when there were 5 dead people?
Wait, so are you confirming that you were involved in a hit last night?
We just had a long, long argument about why you can't be a Watcher or Tracker. But you clearly just said you are a detective who discovered Ace is Mafia.
If thats the case why even argue about Watcher/Tracker? Your original post says:
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
You did not say Ace is Mafia. You said Ace was involved in the hit. So you can't be a detective or you would have said plainly you investigated me to be Scum.
You can't be a Watcher/Tracker because you don't have a target. If you were a legit Watcher/Tracker we wouldn't be having this conversation. I asked you WHO I'm linked to and you can't tell me. If you are a watcher/tracker then WHAT hit was I involved in last night? Are you really selling that the mod told you "Ace was involved in last night's hit" when there were 5 dead people?
Kitaman said in his roleclaim that he is informed of what they do and if they leave their house. You even said yourself that he does not know the name of the target
7.) Watcher - Has tracker abilities, does not get the name of the target
I'm not defending him or anything, but I just want to point out your illogical reasoning. It is probably safe to assume you are either: A) A town role infected with murrayitis or B) A mafia role that is able to spread murrayitis.
It is also quite reasonable to conclude that: A)You helped mafia perform a hit or B)Your role was a town-aligned role that somehow ties into a mafia hit. Could you give an example of how a townie can be involved in a mafia hit? I'm just throwing out my ideas.
You can't be a Watcher/Tracker because you don't have a target. If you were a legit Watcher/Tracker we wouldn't be having this conversation. I asked you WHO I'm linked to and you can't tell me. If you are a watcher/tracker then WHAT hit was I involved in last night? Are you really selling that the mod told you "Ace was involved in last night's hit" when there were 5 dead people?
Wait, so are you confirming that you were involved in a hit last night?
Could you give an example of how a townie can be involved in a mafia hit? I'm just throwing out my ideas.
I wasn't involved in a Mafia hit.
You should read all the pages of this discussion. His claim doesn't reflect any role and doesn't fit with any of the other roles in the game. If it does then prove me wrong.
On November 07 2010 08:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Day 4
Hello city of Insania, my name is Whacko Zacko. Today would be a day of mass slaughter in Insania. Doctorhelvetica was driving to meet up with several heads of the town, when he suddenly got shoved into a bus. This day, DoctorHelvetica would join the person who brought him life in death. In a completely different area in town, Beneather suddenly felt a shot through his stumach even though no shots were fired in the area. He died from his wounds. CubEdIn had expected mafia to come knocking on his door. He had locked his door shut and felt protected. Unfortunately, the mafia managed to sabotage his contain. A sticky goo thrown in prevented CubEdIn from doing anything. CubEdIn was strangled. Deconduo was seen as the hero of the day by mafia. Having carefully intercepted DoctorHelvetica earlier, he was now driving home. He came across someone he had talked to before. "Hey, an extra kill for the night, nice.", he thought. He stopped to let the man in, mistakenly assuming him to be no threat. This would be the last time deconduo underestimated anyone. DCLXVI was anxiously waiting for visitors this night. As the nordic dawn was rising, he couldn't take it anymore. He put on his tin foil hat and planted a bomb under his own bed. It exploded and DCLXVI was no more. Further news: The spread of Murrayitis continues across the land. While we have three reports of immunities so far, we have four people that are infested. Unfortunately, the town hero was unavailable for comment. One house was particularly busy today, with three men visiting his house for differing reasons. Unfortunately, today's cast of Radio Looney has been canceled. DoctorHelvetica the Sticky has been killed.
You are Sticky! You received the gift of life after the death of Bill Murray in Mafia XXXI. Once per night, you may poke someone. They will be notified of the poking. If you poke a person with Murrayitis though, they will not be notified, and you will be notified of this non-notification. Because of your experience with Murrayitis, you are immune to it.
You are the Voodoo Man! On the first night, you may place your voodoo doll on any player. As long as that player is unharmed, you can not be hit at night. If the player your voodoo doll is on dies, you will die as well. You may choose to switch your doll to a different player each night, or keep it on the same player.
You are Neo! You are given the choice of the red pill or the blue pill. Take the red pill and you become a doctor, but the mafia is told of your role. Take the blue pill, and you become a normal townie. You are allowed to protect yourself as a doctor.
You are the Mafia Bus Driver! Because you love your bus more than your fellow mafia members, you often go out driving. You have a crazed hobby in which you kidnap two people and put them in the other person's house! Each night, you may PM me the names of two players. Any night actions targetting one will target the other instead.
DCLXVI the Crazy Mad Hatter has tin foil hatted himself.
You are the Crazy Mad Hatter! Once per night, you may plant a bomb on someone or switch the bomb with someone else, and they will go off if you die. However, should you survive night 3, you put on a tin foil hat and place a bomb under your own bed and die, unless you're saved by a doctor that night. This does not trigger your other bombs. You have two bombs.
It is now Day! You have 48 hours to vote. Please remember that the double lynch is active.
Wait, so are you confirming that you were involved in a hit last night?
Yep I was. Which is why I've been asking you about who the target was.
On November 07 2010 09:07 Ace wrote: Probably ended up like this:
DC puts a bomb on beyonder and deconduo with all 3 dying.
Beyonder had a voodoo doll on Dr. H.
Scum hit some combination of NB, Dr.H, and Cubed. This assumes Node is telling the truth about NB. Which would mean NB got protected by a medic and Dr.H and Cube got popped.
Being that we know Cubed was telling the truth, then we just have to figure out who he protected last night. That being said if NB is alive and Node was telling the truth then there is another doctor out there or NB has a Vet/bulletproof kind of role.
Secondly has anyone thought that the +1 KP isn't Scum but possibly Serial Killer?
Glad we are making progress. So where in the explanation do you fit in?
You can't be a Watcher/Tracker because you don't have a target. If you were a legit Watcher/Tracker we wouldn't be having this conversation. I asked you WHO I'm linked to and you can't tell me. If you are a watcher/tracker then WHAT hit was I involved in last night? Are you really selling that the mod told you "Ace was involved in last night's hit" when there were 5 dead people?
Wait, so are you confirming that you were involved in a hit last night?
i think we have a winner here
Not so fast, and I've been thinking, but what if both kitaman and Ace are actually innocent.
If Ace is vigi and he killed deconduo and he is actually infected with M-rus and someone visited him.
I fit in in a very obvious place. But since you have a DT/Watcher/Tracker type power why don't you tell me which one of those 5 I visited?
You said you got notification that I was involved in a hit last night. There were 5 dead bodies. So which hit was I involved in since you claim to have gotten this information from the mod? If you tracked me to "the hit" then there has to be some wording that tells you WHICH hit? Am I wrong to assume this? Otherwise you'd never know and there would be no way you could say I'm Scum.
If that's not the case, then you are a detective. If you are a detective then you'd be able to say I'm Scum right? But you didn't - you said I was involved in a hit.
See what I'm saying? Your claim doesn't add up. Really this is it:
There were some hits last night. Ace was there.
You yourself would have had to conclude I was Scum. I don't believe you're an innocent townie that messed up so that leaves one thing: You're Scum that messed up the fake claim.
Could you give an example of how a townie can be involved in a mafia hit? I'm just throwing out my ideas.
I wasn't involved in a Mafia hit.
You should read all the pages of this discussion. His claim doesn't reflect any role and doesn't fit with any of the other roles in the game. If it does then prove me wrong.
hits last night: DrH (bussed by deconduo, likely swapped with NB) Cubed (roleblocked while protting self, killed) Beneather (confirmed to have had his voodoo doll on DrH) DCLXVI (confirmed to have died due to role, selfdestructed) deconduo (confirmed to have died due to DC's selfdestruct)
so you were involved in the hit of either DrH or Cubed? Why the hell? If you were one of the guys mentioned in the day post, that means you either carried out a hit yourself or were the guy roleblocking Cubed. Since there is no reason to roleblock a confirmed medic, and DrH was confirmed 100% townie just before, I have to assume you decided to hit Cubed. But that doesn't make sense either. Were you somehow involved in a killing in a way not mentioned in the Day post? The possibilities dwindle, and so does the likelihood of you being town.
btw this now means that every inspection that kitaman made has been correct, even if his role name is weird.
Could you give an example of how a townie can be involved in a mafia hit? I'm just throwing out my ideas.
I wasn't involved in a Mafia hit.
You should read all the pages of this discussion. His claim doesn't reflect any role and doesn't fit with any of the other roles in the game. If it does then prove me wrong.
hits last night: DrH (bussed by deconduo, likely swapped with NB) Cubed (roleblocked while protting self, killed) Beneather (confirmed to have had his voodoo doll on DrH) DCLXVI (confirmed to have died due to role, selfdestructed) deconduo (confirmed to have died due to DC's selfdestruct)
so you were involved in the hit of either DrH or Cubed? Why the hell? If you were one of the guys mentioned in the day post, that means you either carried out a hit yourself or were the guy roleblocking Cubed. Since there is no reason to roleblock a confirmed medic, and DrH was confirmed 100% townie just before, I have to assume you decided to hit Cubed. But that doesn't make sense either. Were you somehow involved in a killing in a way not mentioned in the Day post? The possibilities dwindle, and so does the likelihood of you being town.
btw this now means that every inspection that kitaman made has been correct, even if his role name is weird.
There was nothing about deconduo being confirmed to have died due to DC's selfdestruct. Deconduo visited DrH and NB that night so it is impossible for deconduo to get "caught" in the blast. It has also been stated by mod that DC's second bomb doesn't go off if he kills himself.
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