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Definitely didn't defend me. Why is everyone out to get me
My picture doesn't even have carvings in it. Its a pear with bite marks made to look like a face, its supposed to be cute. You guys are so cruel.
You just admitted killing a pear. Your obviously a killer
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Off to bed for me, but instead of everyone mindlessly voting for me because of a PEAR. I'd like you to take a look at the guy accusing everyone (not just me), Aztrorisk.
This is his profile:
Shadows, eyes watching someone while they sleep, and "heavily massacred", with a picture of a shadowed man. Even his quote is interesting "Do not rush the masterpiece".
Sure looks hes just playing everyone like a fiddle if you ask me. Mob mentality at its finest.
I accused 2 people, you and shmotz, thats it. :D
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On October 11 2010 17:11 youngminii wrote: I'm finding it hard to believe the Jack-o-lantern clue was actually referring to Masq. Maybe it's my lack of experience in clue-based games (I've only played a handful) but wouldn't that be too obvious/unfair?
actually, it wasn't very obvious at first. Its pretty difficult to notice the connection between the jack-o-latern and the pear unless someone points it out. Most people didn't notice this until some creative person pointed this out and everything connected and it made sense.
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I would like to announce that I am not accusing ShmotZ anymore unless masq turns out to be innocent. I just looked over ShmotZ and masq and I discovered that both of them can't kill one person. As a result, I am more confident that it is masq than ShmotZ and I would like to repeal everything I said about ShmotZ.
Right now, my two biggest suspicion is Masq and Vendril. Before I switch to Vendril, I would like to wait a while to see how the votes continue to tally and I will change it to Vendril if my votes will make a difference.
However, my current predicament is deciding a player opposing Masq and Vendril (depending on which team they are on) I decided that I do not want to keep my role as the jack-o-latern a secret because I do not want to be responsible for the death of an innocent zombie. I will plant one bomb at either Masq/vendril's house depending on who has the least votes. However, I need to decide on another bomb on one their opposing side's member (so I don't accidentally kill two vampires and make mafia overpowered or the other way around). Since I am the one of the most likely to be murdered by either the vampire or the mafia, I will give you guys a chance to persuade me who I should put my other bomb on. As a result, If I die, you can't blame me and I accidentally killed a zombie, It will not be entirely my fault because you all had the chance to persuade me.
I will not reveal my final conclusion on who I decide to target the second bomb to.
In addition, I will only accept to place the bomb on someone that I think wants masq/vendril out and can be attacked to one of the clues.
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aztrorisk better switch to veldril or he is a fucking liar and we are going to lynch him due to LAL
LYNCH ALL LIARS
I will switch to vendril if the vote is like 23 masq - 22 vendril at the end but not if it is 25 masq -21 vendril because my vote wouldn't do anything.
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you should have waited to d2 to claim, though, but i hope you get protected
does matter, what if I die today and I accidentally bomb 1 innocent person. Then you guys would be talking about how stupid I was for bombing the wrong person the next day and I can't say anything to defend myself. This way, I leave the blame on the person who convinced me the most.
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This is what a lot of scum do. Let's say Masq is your teammate. You would vote to save his life (thereby risking yourself) only if your vote actually makes a difference (23-22). If it's 25-21 then your vote wouldn't affect anything and you'd be putting your identity on the line by trying to save scum without actually doing anything.
then I suggest you keep the votes up for masq.
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So if you are indeed the jack-o-lantern, we may have a problem. Unless you are protected by a ghost tonight, a witch can just curse you and both your pumpkins won't be placed...if I understand the rules correctly. Now I'm trying to decide whether you knew this, and thus a ghost would HAVE to protect you, ensuring you'd survive for another day or if you just didn't think about it to begin with. Hmmmmmm
Actually, I thought of that, I was trying to make it apparent for the witch to curse me and the ghost to follow me. I was trying to give the ghost a easy decision of who to save.
If my plan works out the following would occur to benefit the town: 1. Mafia wasted a kill point trying to save me 2. Mafia wasted a curse trying to curse me 3. Vampires wasted a Kill point trying to kill me
as a result, the ghost haunt would be the most beneficial for the town this way.
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On October 12 2010 07:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Ghost haunting does not prevent a witches curse. Ghost haunting only blocks an action that would kill the haunted player, it does not block bombs, role checks, boogeymen, or frames.
o.O
the front page says otherwise... or am i reading it wrong? [/blue][/b]
read the witch description: Witch - You are a master of black magic and studied for centuries in the town of Liquidvania. Even the people of Liquidvania who are accepting to monsters despise you and you have since taken up working for the mafia. Once during the night you can PM me the name of a player to curse, preventing them from taking action during the night. You cannot curse the same player twice in a row and you can not curse vampires as they are already cursed and you also cannot curse someone being haunted by a ghost.
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Again the ghost does not block the witch. Nothing blocks the witch.
DoctorH
can you please read the witch description:
Witch - You are a master of black magic and studied for centuries in the town of Liquidvania. Even the people of Liquidvania who are accepting to monsters despise you and you have since taken up working for the mafia. Once during the night you can PM me the name of a player to curse, preventing them from taking action during the night. You cannot curse the same player twice in a row and you can not curse vampires as they are already cursed and you also cannot curse someone being haunted by a ghost.
Since you mentioned that the witch can't curse someone haunted by the ghost, I decided to reveal my identity or else I would've kept it a secret. Can you just let this rule come into effect only for tonight as a fair compromise?
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I'd like to congratulate aztro for bringing all that wifom to the town, you are a true hero, sir.
actually, the brute counts as a KP so I would be saved and the brute would also go to waste if the ghost decided to save me.
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As a result, best case scenario for the town:
ghost decides to save me witch decides to curse me vampire brute decides to kill me mafia decides to kill me
this would mean: witch curse goes to waste vampire brute dies and vampire loses a kill point mafia loses a kill point
I think this is the most effective way to use a ghost haunt.
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The Vampire Brute not only bypasses the ghost but will kill the ghost and anyone else visiting his target in the night.
awww....ruined my plan, I looked my plan over before I decided to admit my role. My only response to this comment is to make it more clear next time
2) why would witch curse AND mafia kill? that makes ZERO sense. because they want to kill me and prevent me from killing one of their members
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Basically, this all comes down to a guessing/bluffing game in my case:
best case scenario for the town: + Show Spoiler +-brute waste kill on me -mafia uses kill point on me -pumpkin kills vampire -ghost decides not to save me
1 brute + vampire dies and 1 mafia dies
or
witch curses me and a witch also dies in this scenario
worse case scenario for the vampires
-they waste a precious brute kill on me that will be most useful in the late game -witch doesn't curse me -I place a pumpkin in a vampire's house
thus 2 vampires dies and they waste a precious brute and I did my job as the jack-o-latern
worse case scenario for mafia + Show Spoiler +mafia really wants me dead and sends the witch to curse me and use a kill point on me. However brute to kill me and no ghost to haunt me. This would leave two mafia dead (most notably the witch
worse case scenario for the town
+ Show Spoiler +-witch curses me -brute kills me -ghost saves me -detective investigates me (super unlikely though)
-this would leave us with a wasted ghost, detective, and jack-o-latern
like I said, all it comes down to is basically bluffs and guesses.
This will be one hecka of a night.
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After rereading everything, I would suggest that the ghost not choose to save aztorisk. I'm starting to believe that he may not be the jack-o-lantern, and instead might be scum trying to stir up confusion among the townies.
However, even if he is the jack-o-lantern, then there is a chance the vampire brute will choose to kill him, thinking that the ghost may be protecting him. Because the ghost is so valuable, I would suggest taking the risk of only losing 1 (or maybe 0) blues, and ensure that the ghost isn't taken out. If he is the jack-o-lantern, then unless a witch chooses to curse him he will be able to place one bomb anyway. I just don't think its worth the risk of either protecting scum, or having the ghost die to the vampire brute. What do you guys think?
actually, your wrong, like in the above quote, it all comes down to a guessing game. Trust me, the vampires and mafia both have big risks in this situation. 5 hrs left to decide.
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What we definitely know is azterisk is probably not in the same faction as Bill Murray. He could be baiting a ghost such that his own faction could kill other targets without worrying about their KP going to waste.
From what he's posting, he might also be trying to stop the detective from investigating him by continuously mentioning the possibility of a brute attack. 0.0
hehe chances are that I'm gonna die tonight anyways.
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I agree with what jaminz says. in the post above mine, astro ignores older posts about how the brute will kill EVERYONE. I would say that the ghost probably shouldn't visit astro, since the risk is relatively high, and if he is lying, we would have gone through a lot of this stuff and ended up in a bad position.
did you read my post about the worse scenarios for the everyone?!?!?
man, just read it. Its not like I'm telling the ghost to save me.
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Hey guys, can we stop commenting whether we think the ghost should come and save me or not.
By doing so, you are putting us in a worse position because if you guys are persuasive enough, the vampires would not have to use a brute and just kill me with a regular person.
Lets please leave the decision of whether the ghost should save me or not to the ghost. This way, it leaves ambiguity for the mafia and the vampires and make their decision harder on whether to kill me or not. In addition, if the vampire does not send a brute because they don't think the angel is coming and the ghost does come, it can only help us. Now, lets please leave the decision up to the ghost to leave ambiguity.
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You do know it's 1 day +5 hours before nightfall right?
It ends on Tuesday at midnight which is technically in 5 hrs because 12:00 am is considered the next day unless Doctor H changed it to wednesday at midnight
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Of course it's a guessing game, but I'm still not sure what I'm wrong about. Care to explain?
calling me a scum and I didn't want you to mold the ghost's decision to leave ambiguity.
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