I voted to lynch Hesmyrr, because I felt he was a godfather role. Someone must be lying because it takes 3 to Lynch.

I voted for infun also.

And I voted against deconduo. I'm assuming that infun got lynched, but caller hasn't posted the results yet. That's why I assumed there were only four people left.

XeLiN has been suggesting really dangerous plays that could draw the game to a close. A question, Xelin, why did you want me to accuse infun when you could just do it yourself?

The big question is, what if Xelin/rasta are the mafia?
Well its to late to do anything, so we better hope there is only one mafia

Caller

Poland8075 Posts

September 15 2010 18:26 GMT

#562

Judgements:

Infundibulum-Guilty
Deconduo-Not Guilty
LSB-Pending

Caller

Poland8075 Posts

September 15 2010 18:27 GMT

#563

Why on earth you would lynch the Hero of the Soviet Union I have no idea. He was probably shot by accident. And that's how Infundibulum died.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

September 15 2010 18:28 GMT

#564

Ok, we HAVE to vote no on LSB right now. If he dies and is town we lose.

XeliN

United Kingdom1755 Posts

September 15 2010 18:51 GMT

#565

LSB did you vote yes for Deconduo?

XeliN

United Kingdom1755 Posts

September 15 2010 18:57 GMT

#566

Sorry you already posted that you didn't.. fml now were in a tricky position, how on earth did you vote no on him..

Well we have 2 choices
A) Lynch LSB now and bank on him being mafia over Deconduo
B) We go to the night stage, either myself or rastaban die and then the remaining person is forced to 50/50 choice between you two for who is mafia.

Option B is looking the most likely to happen right now, kind of a shame because this game ought to have been an open shut case...

XeliN

United Kingdom1755 Posts

September 15 2010 19:02 GMT

#567

Oh and I'm voting Yes on LSB, can't see his logic in voting No for decon if he were town, yet if he were mafia he knows full well that keeping deconduo alive is the only thing stopping me and rastaban for winning the game for the town.

I'd expect rastaban to be voting Yes as well so the choice will likely rest on your shoulders deconduo. Essentially the question you have to ask yourself is which of these two possibilities is more plausible this game.

LSB is mafia and XeliN and Rastaban are innocent

or

XeliN or Rastaban are mafia and LSB is innocent, one of them has not only duped the other entirely, but also risked providing evidence to lynch one of their own mafia allies in order to gain
legitimacy.

The other option of course is that your mafia and have lucked out on LSB for some inexplicable reason not voting for you, but in such a hypothetical you would be voting Yes anyway.

XeliN

United Kingdom1755 Posts

September 15 2010 19:12 GMT

#568

Just to further outline how stretched it would be for Myself or Rasta to be mafia.

We know that there are only two Mafia who know each other, as well as one traitor.

To "sacrifice" Lakrismamma, which is what we would of done if either of us were mafia, would be getting rid of the only remaining mafia player in the game other than ourselves, at a point in the game where there are still detective//s left and our only remaining unknown ally Pandain was already killed.

Basically it would be extremely risky bordering on the lines of idiocy.

Infundibulum

United States2552 Posts

September 15 2010 19:24 GMT

#569

sigh

gl town

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

September 15 2010 19:56 GMT

#570

I'm voting no on the LSB vote for 2 reasons. I trust him more than anyone at this point, and have been in contact with him through PM for most of the game. Secondly, I'd much prefer to see who dies tonight.

We don't know that the remaining mafia knew lakris was his partner, or even that the last remaining scum isn't a 3rd party serial killer or something, and would have nothing to lose by getting lakris lynched. This setup is completely hidden.

I'm FOSsing Xelin most of all at this point because he has assumed that there are 2 maf that knew each other. Thats a big assumption to jump to.

XeliN

United Kingdom1755 Posts

September 15 2010 21:12 GMT

#571

Deconduo if there were 2 mafia left in this game then the game is over and they've already won, we are only 4 people left at this point.

XeliN

United Kingdom1755 Posts

September 15 2010 21:14 GMT

#572

And as to the "assumption" I made as to 2 mafia who know each other and one traitor, if you can't work that out for yourself it's abit pointless explaining.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

September 15 2010 21:21 GMT

#573

On September 16 2010 06:14 XeliN wrote:
And as to the "assumption" I made as to 2 mafia who know each other and one traitor, if you can't work that out for yourself it's abit pointless explaining.

No please, explain why you are so certain of this. And I never said there were 2 maf left, its obvious thats not the case.

XeliN

United Kingdom1755 Posts

September 15 2010 21:30 GMT

#574

Ah ok tbh your right it is an assumption thinking about it but it seemed like a not too far jump to make that Caller would not make a game where none of the mafia roles knew each other at all.

We know the mafia did not know pandain was a traitor and for them, I was making the assumption that the 2 remaining mafia, Lakris and "X" (no Initial intended xD) knew who each other were. The assumption I am making is that, if you disagree then the only alternative is that no mafia roles in the game were aware of each other at all and that to me seems false.

XeliN

United Kingdom1755 Posts

September 15 2010 21:33 GMT

#575

And from that assumption, I outlined how unlikely, or extremely risky it would be, for me or rastaban to be mafia as it would mean we volountarily sacrificed our single known compatriat at a time in the game where doing so would have been well hmm "brave" "risky "crazy". It's not implausible at all that we couldn't have adopted this strategy I was just trying to outline that, from your perspective assuming your town, it ought be far more plausible that LSB is mafia.

XeliN

United Kingdom1755 Posts

September 15 2010 21:34 GMT

#576

Ooops far too many negatives, "It's not implausible at all that we COULD have......"

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

September 15 2010 21:39 GMT

#577

From the assumption that Lakris had a partner, then yes LSB would seem like the obvious choice. However, I am not making that assumption. This game has been full of surprises (bear role anyone? lol) so I feel maf knowing each other is not a given.

LSB

United States5171 Posts

September 15 2010 22:54 GMT

#578

I voted against deconduo's lynch. This means that he is not guity.

Although you are talking about the 'implausibility of sacrificing lakris", why are you so quick to push the town past lylo?

We HAVE to get the next lynch right. Lynch me, and the town loses.

I have already told you that i voted for infun/hesmyr. I did not lie, the problem is someone else lied. That person would not be town. We have to figure out who lied.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

September 15 2010 23:33 GMT

#579

On September 16 2010 07:54 LSB wrote:
I voted against deconduo's lynch. This means that he is not guity.

Although you are talking about the 'implausibility of sacrificing lakris", why are you so quick to push the town past lylo?

We HAVE to get the next lynch right. Lynch me, and the town loses.

I have already told you that i voted for infun/hesmyr. I did not lie, the problem is someone else lied. That person would not be town. We have to figure out who lied.

HOw does that mean he is not guilty? I don't follow...