OK I am going to vote for LSB, Deco you should as well. Either he is a poor town player or a good captialist player. Here is the PM I received from him earlier he followed it to the very end and then when it would have meant he would die if he was a capitalist he instead deviated.

Here is the proof, Kill LSB

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Plan: right now there are 9 people

Of us, we have a circle, me, you, xelin, dedeconuno.
If we all survive, and two people die tonight, there will be 7 people left

We could then kill the other three, leaving us four.

If there is still mafia, take out dedeconuno

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Original Message:
I assume you did but can you confirm you voted for pandain

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

September 16 2010 00:00 GMT

#582

If you are wondering why he didn't vote for deco, it was because the accusation was already on him so he would have died when deco flipped red, and then xelin and I would have 2-1 executed him.

LSB

United States5171 Posts

September 16 2010 00:13 GMT

#583

I was assuming that Deconduo was town (He's been PMing me the whole game and seems legit). And I was pretty sure that rastaban is town.

Rasta was sure that Xelin is town. So that's why I though we had the game in the bag.

You can't forget my post rasta. If voted to kill someone, it takes 3 to kill. That means someone lied.

LSB

United States5171 Posts

September 16 2010 00:23 GMT

#584

I'm am sure that Deconduo is town

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Deconduo wrote
Original Message:
That wasn't actually my plan. Mine is as follows: If we kill OPZ and he turns out to be a genuine DT, then hesmyrr is clear. Then anyone left alive all accuses each other (apart from hes) at the same time. Everyone votes yes, even for their own deaths. Because townies outnumber maf, everyone except for hesmyrr dies. We win.

This only fails if hesmyrr dies tonight, or if he's a godfather type role.

Since Hesmyrr wasn't mafia, we know that Deconduo isn't mafia either, as his plan would result in a insta loss.

LSB

United States5171 Posts

September 16 2010 00:25 GMT

#585

Uhh, To explain this

Since Hesmyrr wasn't mafia, we know that Deconduo isn't mafia either, as his plan would result in a insta loss.

Lets assume Deconduo is mafia, the only reason why he would push the plan is if Hesmyrr is mafia too. If Hesmyrr wasn't mafia, and we actually followed through with the plan, Deconduo would lose.

So that means that Deconduo is not mafia.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

September 16 2010 01:11 GMT

#586

but we couldn't follow through with the plan, on top of that we don't know if he has special powers to counteract the plan. Remember that most likely two revealed roles already could manipulate votes, I don't think it is unlikely the last mafia has some such power as well.

Unfortunately one of the last four of us is being duped by the mafia unless both of you are mafia. obviously I know it is not me and I am very sure about Xelin, I mean unless you had some impregnable evidence there is no way I will vote him.

That leaves the 2 of you left, one of you is the last capitalist, unless both of you are, but then you already won.

So we have to choose between you or Deco, if you had voted deco it would have been a town win since even if he lied we could then lynch you and win.

Now you didn't vote him, and I believe this is because you know you lose when that happens. Now the best your arguments can do defending decon is convince me that you are the last mafia. It is an either or situation. You or Deco. Well I wanted to kill both and guarantee a win but you stopped it.

At this point you either handed the game to the mafia by not eliminating him or are the mafia

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

September 16 2010 01:23 GMT

#587

LSB you bring up a good point though, on hesmyrr dieing. Someone here also voted for him besides you, wouldn't that mean it is decon? Can't you see that he really did need to die, why do you think he lived??? Because he saved himself, thats why I wanted him to die. Surely you see that it was him. We need to kill him tomorrow then.

LSB

United States5171 Posts

September 16 2010 01:29 GMT

#588

Situations:

LSB+Deconduo Mafia
Well, firstly, both me and deconduo can't be mafia. This will be proven very soon.

If we both are mafia, and even if you kill me. Deconduo still lives, gg Town.

I woudn't try to defend myself, as I'd already win. So that means that we both can't be mafia

Xelin Mafia
Xelin would be sacrificing Lak, someone that no one suspected. Pretty unlikely

Rastaban Mafia
Rasta did help kill Lak, of course, from what I see, Xelin was the main person thinking that Lak was the target.
Rasta did contact me to help kill Lak.

Deconduo Mafia
Most Likely.

LSB Mafia
Can't be. I've tried to make this clear
Firstly, I've voted to kill people. However I can't just kill people by myself, someone needs to vote along with me, so someone else is lying.
Secondly, I didn't kill Deconduo. I admit, this could be a mistake if Deconduo flips mafia. But if Deconduo isn't mafia, it's GG right there.

It's best to wait a night, that way we can see who's still alive. I didn't hand the game to the mafia, I am waiting a night so the Mafia helps us by eliminating someone so it's easier to see who is who.

If you vote for me, there is a really high chance that I'll die. Mafia will vote for my death, and that's already 2 votes.