EPT. I'm usually quite paranoid as to who might be mafia in games when I'm town (i rlly suspected Hesmyrr might be godfather for example) but when it comes to reading people as town I personally think im usually quite a good judge.
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
. I'm usually quite paranoid as to who might be mafia in games when I'm town (i rlly suspected Hesmyrr might be godfather for example) but when it comes to reading people as town I personally think im usually quite a good judge. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
it isn't 100% since who knows what caller could cook up but I was also cleared by the text that when lakris died his power over me dissipated. He was controlling my vote (Pandain lynch was a vote short so I assume he changed my final one from a no to a yes) getting him lynched. No reason for mafia to manipulate their teamates vote. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On September 21 2010 06:36 XeliN wrote: clearly there are 2 teams here, Me and Rasta know for sure thate each other are leigtimate and, likewise, you and LSB know each other are legit. It seems there is only one way to solve this. Me and Rasta vs LSB and Deconduo, 2v2 Starcraft2. Winning team decides the lynch. Make it happen! BW4LYFE On September 21 2010 07:47 rastaban wrote: I trust Xelin he is the one who got the ball rolling on lakris when there wasn't strong suspicion on him and he has been town the entire time, it isn't 100% since who knows what caller could cook up but I was also cleared by the text that when lakris died his power over me dissipated. He was controlling my vote (Pandain lynch was a vote short so I assume he changed my final one from a no to a yes) getting him lynched. No reason for mafia to manipulate their teamates vote. Okay, I believe that There is no mafia What is the mafia? The Mafia is the "informed third party" I believe that there is no informed third party. So lets look at the List of Roles Bear (Third Party) Fraudster (Third Party) Traitor (Obviously, the Traitor doesn't know who the mafia is) Capitalist Vampire (It sounds like a Capitalist Vampire is a Vampire that wins with the mafia, rather than just a blue role) The only possible role that could be in the informed third party is the Capitalist Vampire. But that would mean a two person mafia, and frankly, that's really strange. (There isn't the standard 3 mafia. If there was, it'd be gg.) Also, the mafia should be able to get off night kills, because that's a mafia power. Unless the mafia realizes that they can't off a person without a bandwagon immediately forming. It become an intricate logic game. What if Xelin was killed? Decon could be mafia, hoping that I'd gang up with him to kill on of the other. Or it could be a reverse, and rasta could be the mafia, hoping that I thought Decon was the mafia. x.x I say we wait a night, if no one dies, hopefully we can conclude that there is no mafia | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On September 21 2010 09:16 LSB wrote: BW4LYFE Okay, I believe that There is no mafia What is the mafia? The Mafia is the "informed third party" I believe that there is no informed third party. So lets look at the List of Roles Bear (Third Party) Fraudster (Third Party) Traitor (Obviously, the Traitor doesn't know who the mafia is) Capitalist Vampire (It sounds like a Capitalist Vampire is a Vampire that wins with the mafia, rather than just a blue role) The only possible role that could be in the informed third party is the Capitalist Vampire. But that would mean a two person mafia, and frankly, that's really strange. (There isn't the standard 3 mafia. If there was, it'd be gg.) Also, the mafia should be able to get off night kills, because that's a mafia power. Unless the mafia realizes that they can't off a person without a bandwagon immediately forming. It become an intricate logic game. What if Xelin was killed? Decon could be mafia, hoping that I'd gang up with him to kill on of the other. Or it could be a reverse, and rasta could be the mafia, hoping that I thought Decon was the mafia. x.x I say we wait a night, if no one dies, hopefully we can conclude that there is no mafia What do you mean by conclude there is no mafia? There is one more anti-town role out there I don't care if it is called mafia or capitalist or serial killer or a pink teletubby we need to kill them for the game to progress. While I think it is a member of the capitalists (with the a recruit-able traitor that does make 3 mafia and with all the black roles it wouldn't have been balanced with 3 mafia coordinated) it might be a serial killer someone who knows he will be outed. I still say we kill Deconduo and I am sure that Xelin still supports this, I don't want this game to continue indefinitely. Lets kill deco, see how he flips and then we can move on from there. What does waiting one more day accomplish, nothing! If there are no mafia as you say then killing him won't matter. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
On September 21 2010 22:57 rastaban wrote: What do you mean by conclude there is no mafia? There is one more anti-town role out there I don't care if it is called mafia or capitalist or serial killer or a pink teletubby we need to kill them for the game to progress. While I think it is a member of the capitalists (with the a recruit-able traitor that does make 3 mafia and with all the black roles it wouldn't have been balanced with 3 mafia coordinated) it might be a serial killer someone who knows he will be outed. I still say we kill Deconduo and I am sure that Xelin still supports this, I don't want this game to continue indefinitely. Lets kill deco, see how he flips and then we can move on from there. What does waiting one more day accomplish, nothing! If there are no mafia as you say then killing him won't matter. I agree with this entirely, my only edit would be altering the name "Deconduo" for "LSB" but either works. LSB if you actually mean what you said then there is not support a lynch irrespective of who. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
There are two possibilities really, non-mafia third party (non-mafia third parties win objectives do not clash with the towns) or a mafia alligned player. As you don't think the latter is true then you should be lynching. That said I think it's fairly obvious the latter is true, but as you don't then you don't have an argument for voting no. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On September 21 2010 22:57 rastaban wrote: What do you mean by conclude there is no mafia? There is one more anti-town role out there I don't care if it is called mafia or capitalist or serial killer or a pink teletubby we need to kill them for the game to progress. While I think it is a member of the capitalists (with the a recruit-able traitor that does make 3 mafia and with all the black roles it wouldn't have been balanced with 3 mafia coordinated) it might be a serial killer someone who knows he will be outed. By mafia I mean an Informed minority that decides during the night who to kill. I think that everyone is third party. Just some are third party aligned with mafia. This means that I wouldn't know that Pandian was traitor. And Rasta/Xelin wouldn't know that Lakris was Vampire This is why I'm not so sure that you guys (Rasta/Xelin) are town. I still say we kill Deconduo and I am sure that Xelin still supports this, I don't want this game to continue indefinitely. Lets kill deco, see how he flips and then we can move on from there. What does waiting one more day accomplish, nothing! If there are no mafia as you say then killing him won't matter. The problem is, I know that Deconduo is town. So really, we kind of are at a stalemate. Now we just need to know how to break it. I'm not just going to lynch someone for the sake of Lynching. I don't know what you are doing that. If you think I'm mafia, why aren't you trying to lynch me? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
BTW, who do you support? I want to know who to | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
As you may have already surmised, deconduo survives | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On September 17 2010 14:17 Caller wrote: If there are any night actions please PM me. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
This is now a game of "wait until deconduo realises he should lynch LSB" The possibility of decon being traitor and LSB being townie is there, but in my eyes the traitor is definately LSB. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
At least the game has met solid conclusion for me, you unlucky survivors. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
Fakerole PM: "You are a traitor your sided with the mafia blah blah" Me :D "I know ! ! ! ! 1 For my first act of traitorismlificationisation, I'll go inactive for most of the start of the game, and then, I'll swoop into the game and make a series of well founded accusations against one of the most likely mafia players left in this. That way were sure to win!!!" If I was mafia the idea of me sacrificing lakris in order to gain legitimacy at least is plausible, If, as you claim, you believe there to only be a traitor left then it's not plausible and errs on the side of ignorant stupidity (in a nice non offensive way, not saying YOU are ignorant and stupid just the conclusion you've reached ^^) Tbh I shouldn't assume LSB is the last, quite frankly it could easily be you decon but overall I think LSB's style of play seems to me more consistent with a traitor role, his not lynching you in and of itself is telling enough, but I mean looking back at his posting earlier in the thread. Cliffnotes: Idiotic conclusions reached, still waiting on the one remaining town out of LSB and Decon to reach an epiphany. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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