EPTOnce again nothing happened. For Christ's sake yo.
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
Once again nothing happened. For Christ's sake yo. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On September 25 2010 03:52 XeliN wrote: You don't think if I was a traitor I would have played the WORST game in history? Fakerole PM: "You are a traitor your sided with the mafia blah blah" Me :D "I know ! ! ! ! 1 For my first act of traitorismlificationisation, I'll go inactive for most of the start of the game, and then, I'll swoop into the game and make a series of well founded accusations against one of the most likely mafia players left in this. That way were sure to win!!!" You're always inactive at the start of practically every game. If I was mafia the idea of me sacrificing lakris in order to gain legitimacy at least is plausible, If, as you claim, you believe there to only be a traitor left then it's not plausible and errs on the side of ignorant stupidity (in a nice non offensive way, not saying YOU are ignorant and stupid just the conclusion you've reached ^^) Okay, guys. The main reason we think XeliN is town is because of his Accusation of Lakris right? First of all, I'm going to dispel some assumptions XeliN wouldn't have killed his scumbuddy on purpose: False Actually he could. Mafia in this game don't know each other. There are probably 2 traitor roles, and a capitalist aligned SK (Lakris) I assumed that XeliN couldn’t be scum because scum wouldn’t start the ball rolling on scum. But Xelin's kill could have been a mistake XeliN’s accusation of Lakris had merit: False Looking back at his accusation, it’s actually quiet sketchy. + Show Spoiler + On September 09 2010 03:43 XeliN wrote: The time seems prudent now, an #Accusation against Lakrismamma I aim for this to be concise and simple so to start, the clue: + Show Spoiler + On September 08 2010 12:17 Caller wrote: Pandain was in the midst of defending himself when suddenly he was shot multiple times by a variety of hand guns, most of which were proud Soviet issued Nagants but a handful of which did not seem Soviet. One of them even sounded like an old 13th Century Hand Cannon. This suggests one thing, among the people publically supporting the Pandain lynch, at least one of them are capitalist. Here the most suggestive part for clue making is “One of them even sounded like an old 13th Century Hand Cannon”. Now look at Lakrismamma’s quotation in his profile “I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes. ”. Here is where I believe the clue to be linked, my idea being a 13th Century Hand Cannon is exactly the type of “thunder” that might break walls and window panes” I spent a fairly long time trying to analyse this clue, even spent about 10minutes scanning a Wikipedia article on Cannons and their history but missed this entirely, I did not make the link but it is strong imo, just as strong as the clue that led us to Pandain becoming Deadpan (LOL PUN!) And now to Lakris’ posting, and as were on the subject of Pandains clue here is the first thing I found telling. This is Lakrismamma’s post immediately after Caller wrote the clue about a mauling panda. I think the panda clue was of the type that the mafia would instantly know it reffered to Pandain and would naturally be quite anxious for people not to make the association or, if it came to that, to be able to dismiss it as ambiguous. First of all, Pandain wasn’t the panda. The person who got mauled was because of the Bear, Hesmyrr. In fact, TLMafia has played without clues for a looong time. It strange why XeliN would suddenly bring up clues. And it’s not like it’s specific. Caller could just simply be describing that the mafia executed someone with a gun. + Show Spoiler + [quote] + Show Spoiler + On September 08 2010 05:31 lakrismamma wrote: Ok maybe im beeing easily pursuaded but I will unvote. This to me is clearly a sign of someone trying to cover themselves, he can claim “I supported the lynch on Pandain and argued why” if Pandain is lynched and revealed to be capitalist whilst at the same time try to avoid that supporting Pandain, saying he will change his vote and perhaps hoping others will follow suit. Mild tendancies in argument can often be a tell in mafia play and IMO Lakris’ posting is an example of it. I’m of the opinion that simply the strength of the clue (subjective but I believe it is a strong one, or as strong as clues are likely to be in this game) as well as his support of Bum’s lynch and mild way in not committing for or against Pandains lynch are enough in and off themselves for the lynch, but if you go over his posts there are other more subtle things I can find but they are more WIFOMy//more subjective. And so gentlemen there’s my evidence mingled with my opinion. Blood is that most precious of substances yet in this example I think it ought be spilled. Again, this "cover themselves attack" relies on the assumption that the mafia knows who the others mafia members were. But the problem is, Pandain is a traitor. Lakris couldn’t have known that he was mafia. And as a reason for someone being mafia, Indecisiveness is a lame argument that was easy to make. Anyone can make that. I can go through XeliN's day one post and make that argument, but I won't because its the real arguments that find scum XeliN has been pro town: False Day 2: Xelin pushes Lakris’s lynch on flimsy evidence It looks like he is just getting the ball rolling, trying to get an early bandwagon Day3: I push for the lynch of the 4 people outside of our circle. Xelin sits back Day 3/4: Xelin then pushes for my lynch. I know I’m town. In fact, Xelin hasn’t really been focusing on me that much, if he seriously believe that I was mafia, why didn’t he accuse me yesterday? Lastly, the vote When we look at the claimed votes, a lot could be explained if Xelin lied. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/8YFiO.jpg) If Xelin and Infun lied, Hesmyrr would get lynched. That is the most probable possibility. What if Rasta lied? The problem is, then two other people would have to lie, Xelin and Infun, so either way, Xelin has to have lied. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
##Accuse: XeliN | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Voting yes. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
 LOL | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
Although earlier you phrased something in a way which made it seem like the lack of any clues was actually a clue in and of itself so mayb I need to have a brainstorm... | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
To: Caller [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Heyo Date: 9/9/10 14:05 Do I need to vote on my own accusation or is it assumed as a given? Just incase Yes to Lakrismamma's lynch ^^ To: Caller [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Yo's Date: 9/13/10 15:19 I might not be about for a lil bit and so to cover my bets I vote YES for any accusation against the following players in this day stage Hesmyrr, Deconduo, Zeks, Infundibulum, Divinek To: Caller [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: adjustment Date: 9/15/10 04:05 Change my stance currently on Hesmyrr Voting NO for his accusation, YES for all the rest I mentioned | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
Well there's also the idea of defending myself in order to attempt to persuade the one remaining town player amongst you and LSB, but I've abandoned that notion. LSB's entire post is a clutch at straws attempt in order to show how I COULD be mafia or traitor, it is him trying to do all he can to make it seem plausible. The fact that we have got to a point where the best he is able to do is argue that I could be and outline arguments and reasons entirely based around establishing this Could ought be telling enough in itself. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
Oh lookie, Xelin's dead. Night in 12 Hours or until stopped. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
since you are so sure that each other is town and don't care about my analysis go ahead and lynch me so we can let the mafia win | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
 Go ahead and post your analysis. I'm interested in hearing it anyway. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
On September 25 2010 08:26 XeliN wrote: GL getting this one through guys LOL Poetic justiceGL guys! | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On September 28 2010 03:18 rastaban wrote: meh looks like I was right about Xelin deing town and it probably cost us the game lynching him but I didn't want to wait another week for another no hit night. since you are so sure that each other is town and don't care about my analysis go ahead and lynch me so we can let the mafia win Mafia admitting gg, or defeated townie? | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
LSB, you already know why, no read to restate my points. You need to decided now if I am town or LSB is town. | ||
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United States2294 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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