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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
September 15 2010 02:13 GMT
#541
###Accusation Deconduo oops forgot the format.
Adonai bless
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
September 15 2010 02:30 GMT
#542
I'm not mafia, but if you're mafia XeliN, you must be genius.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
September 15 2010 02:33 GMT
#543
Assuming that Infun died.

People Alive

LSB
Deconduo
XeliN
Rasta

If there are two capitalists, they win
If there is only one capitalist, it's Lylo.

We shouldn't lynch anyone else. If we lynch Deconduo, and he's not mafia, it's GG. We should wait a night and increase our odds.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
September 15 2010 02:35 GMT
#544
waiting a night achieves absolutely nothing other than giving the mafia a chance to KP
Adonai bless
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
September 15 2010 02:37 GMT
#545
If we kill Deconduo now, and he flips town, we lose

If we wait a night, someone will be killed, and the town will have to find one capitalists out of only 3.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
September 15 2010 04:18 GMT
#546
On September 15 2010 11:13 XeliN wrote:
Accuse Deconduo I guess if your mafia LSB then u win


this doesn't seem like a very solid plan...
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
September 15 2010 04:24 GMT
#547
Oh and if Hesmyrr had kp then i think it makes more sense to have 1 capitalist remaining. bear is a role that sounds like it has kp at least to me.

On September 15 2010 11:37 LSB wrote:
If we kill Deconduo now, and he flips town, we lose

If we wait a night, someone will be killed, and the town will have to find one capitalists out of only 3.


why out of 3? there are 5 people alive right now, so if 1 person dies tomorrow that is 4 people.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
September 15 2010 04:31 GMT
#548
by the way people have been lax on posting their votes in the thread.

For zeks and hesmyrr this is what I see :

zeks -

yes - infundibuum
yes - rastaban
yes - deconduo
yes - LSB

hesmyrr

no - infundibulum
no - deconduo


yes - ????

so i think zeks was probably unanimous yes to kill. but what about hesmyrr?

if you are town you need to post your votes in the thread, not doing so makes it so much harder to keep players accountable...
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 15 2010 05:08 GMT
#549
Voted for Deco, lets see how he flips.
Voted for Zeks
Didn't vote on Hessmyrr since it was suppose to be just to prolong day.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
September 15 2010 06:33 GMT
#550
Alright so I need to make a failsafe play here.

I'm the only one left that can make an accusation, and LSB is the only player left who hasn't been accused. In case I die, which would be very bad, I need to make my accusation.

First, I need everyone voting to state their vote on the accusation pending on me, and do so BEFORE the verdict is decided please. If I die and flip, and nobody has posted their votes, town is much worse off.

For example we have NO idea what happened during Hesmyrr lynch, because only 2 people stated their vote and a 3rd apparently didn't vote. As an aside to rastaban, that is a really strange play on your part - if you though Hesmyrr was confirmed town, as i did, then you surely would have voted "No" since you would expect any capitalists to vote "Yes." This causes your non-vote to basically amount to a yes.

Now the thing is 2 people claimed to vote no on Hesmyrr (myself and deconduo). However a majority is required to kill. Assuming deconduo and I are telling the truth , 3 people need to have voted "Yes." Assuming only 1 of us is telling the truth, 2 "Yes" are needed. I ask comrades Xelin and LSB to state their votes on the lynches of Hesmyrr and zeks. Your not coming forward with this information is very disturbing. A potential snag exists in the forms of the votes of comrades zeks and Hesmyrr, unfortunately.


So I need to ask the town
1. Do i use my accusation
2. Do I use it on LSB

And I'm thinking the answer is yes, to both of these.

Any capitalist(s) are going to vote yes on me, and I ask the comrades to please vote no. I don't have any extra night lives, but the capitalists will try and convince you that I am a liar and accuse me of being capitalist myself.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
September 15 2010 06:34 GMT
#551
I repeat: Post your votes on my accusation and deconduo's accusation, BEFORE the verdicts are reached
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
September 15 2010 06:41 GMT
#552
Infundibulum's votes:

"NO" to infundibulum

"NO" on deconduo - i reread much of the thread and did not find any convincing behavioral evidence.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 15 2010 07:07 GMT
#553
No to both infundi and myself.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
September 15 2010 09:04 GMT
#554
Infun plz do use your accusation against LSB whilst you can. I am convinced rasta is almost 100% confirmed town, the last remaining mafia must be either yourself, deconduo or LSB and currently in a worst case scenario where you and deconduo die and are both soviet then we would know LSB to be capitalist and yet have no way to lynch him.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
September 15 2010 09:10 GMT
#555
And as for votes I originally sent this
To: Caller [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Yo's
Date: 9/13/10 15:19
I might not be about for a lil bit and so to cover my bets

I vote YES for any accusation against the following players in this day stage

Hesmyrr, Deconduo, Zeks, Infundibulum, Divinek


Which I later changed to this
To: Caller [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: adjustment
Date: 9/15/10 04:05
Change my stance currently on Hesmyrr

Voting NO for his accusation, YES for all the rest I mentioned


Rasta can confirm.
Adonai bless
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 15 2010 11:32 GMT
#556
So Xelin and rasta are voting for me.

Myself and infundi are voting no.

Don't know about LSB.


For the infundi lynch, I think everyone is voting no, correct me if I'm wrong.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
September 15 2010 12:05 GMT
#557
I preemptively corrected you in the post above yours
Adonai bless
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
September 15 2010 15:50 GMT
#558
ok

##Accusation LSB
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
September 15 2010 15:55 GMT
#559
On September 15 2010 18:04 XeliN wrote:
Infun plz do use your accusation against LSB whilst you can. I am convinced rasta is almost 100% confirmed town, the last remaining mafia must be either yourself, deconduo or LSB and currently in a worst case scenario where you and deconduo die and are both soviet then we would know LSB to be capitalist and yet have no way to lynch him.


youll also be losing 2 town votes and i think it goes to lylo?

its a really dangerous play
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
September 15 2010 18:12 GMT
#560
Well the crux of the "plan" is this

Assumption: XeliN and Rastaban are innocent, this is assumed to the point where, if it were false, the town loses

Action: Kill off every remaining player in this day stage excluding myself and Rastaban, thus we guarantee a town victory if the assumption is correct.

Potential problems (other than a false assumption): The remaining players do not vote YES against each other and we end up entering the night stage, at which point the mafia's chance of victory is greatly increased.

If you and deconduo agree with the Assumption then voting YES for each other is the most pro-town move, in spite of feelings that there is not enough evidence to lynch either person. It is a point of culling the numbers more than lynching on evidence based conclusion.

Thanks for accusing LSB though, I'm pretty sure we've now won assuming the night stage is avoided, not being able to accuse him in a worst case scenario was the weak link in the chain that has now been soldered xD
Adonai bless
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