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On September 29 2010 16:55 Divinek wrote:shit you know the foolishness thing does make alot of sense, like ALOT of sense to me. I was majorly considering it but team 1 seemed so convincing. Probably just blind with rage for lsb attacking me  i guess i can pull my vote off since i won't get mod killed and think about it for a while longer ##unvote
You're a sheep. Both your team and team 1 are utter garbage.
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i like to think of it as lackadaisical open mindedness
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Foolishness
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Yes, you're right, that is weird logic there.
I still say team 2 is mafia over team 1 since it doesn't make much sense for team 1 to have been voting for their mafia buddy the other day. You haven't even commented on this "process of elimination" that I have posted about multiple times have you? I already said that it probably doesn't mean much to the rest of you but when it's plain obvious to me at the moment it's hard to say anything more.
At least team 1 has put in effort to defending people. When we were lynching team 7 they backed them up properly. If they were mafia (team 1) why bother putting up their mafia buddy as the other lynch, especially since RoL and BC looked really bad due to inactivity and lack of contributing. They could have easily just pushed for team 2 since team 2 was taking heat from the first day. Team 1 has made those long posts, has tried to figure things out. Have you seen team 2 do any of that from any of their 3 players? Not so much. SouthRawrea makes a semi-long post from time to time but that's about it.
Not to mention, I just went through 2 past games with each of these three. When they weren't mafia they were much more aggressive in their posting and calling people out. I haven't seen any of them perform as they did the last game when they were town. Almost all of their votes have been "yeah I agree with you, let's vote this guy", and Divinek just pulled it again after you accused me.
If you ask me, the choice between hitting you and hitting rastaban and I isn't an easy decision to make. That's probably debatable though.
And yes dude, I realize completely that I probably haven't been performing up to my usual town standards (although I thought my meeple analysis was sound at the time). And yes dude, I realize that rastaban hasn't really done anything in the thread this game. But I'm sitting here trying to figure things out and making sure that I'm not wrong about team 2. Team 2 hasn't done anything but blindly vote for anyone who's not team 6 (except when it was clear team 6 was getting lynched).
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i was just hoping rasta was gonna pull out another analysis pegging me as mafia again so we could have an easy free mafa lynch. o well
im playing different in this game just because i generally feel lazier and the players involved in this game are pretty boring lol so there's no point in flaring things up. Why go out of my way to make big long posts when people are making them for me, especially when most of what they say agrees with my line of thinking as i go through the thread?
yeah it's pretty sheepish and looks bad, but i really do need to establish a lazy townie image for in future games when im mob and then i can say look i played shittily as town too! lol
i keep decent tabs on people i just never care to post them, that's why pm games are so much more fun.
oh bummian where for art thou
damn what a contentless post, ya lets lynch them team 2 jokers
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On September 30 2010 02:37 Divinek wrote:
i was just hoping rasta was gonna pull out another analysis pegging me as mafia again so we could have an easy free mafa lynch. o well
im playing different in this game just because i generally feel lazier and the players involved in this game are pretty boring lol so there's no point in flaring things up. Why go out of my way to make big long posts when people are making them for me, especially when most of what they say agrees with my line of thinking as i go through the thread?
yeah it's pretty sheepish and looks bad, but i really do need to establish a lazy townie image for in future games when im mob and then i can say look i played shittily as town too! lol
i keep decent tabs on people i just never care to post them, that's why pm games are so much more fun.
oh bummian where for art thou
damn what a contentless post, ya lets lynch them team 2 jokers
LOL, you discovered my favorite past time, framing Div. Hey to be fair you weren't innocent when I did it as town 
I am really surprised that team i&i suspects my Foolishness and I. Foolishness has been working hardcore as town. The mafia obviously is between team 1 and 2 but it is hard to pinpoint which it is right now. Both have good arguments against them. I have to admit though, Foolishness' arguments towards team 2 seems pretty good. All the votes immediately on team 1 surprised me though as i thought most peopel agreed 2 should be next.
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Well, I didn't really have much suspicion towards team 6 until they counter claimed medic vs team 8. Thought the connection between 1 and 3 was pretty solid, but I guess not. Is there anything against being a sheep for a 100% confirmed medic? Team 3 would have had to hit team 8, as either team 1 or 2 hitting each other would be kinda suspicious... but then team 1 could have hit team 8 because team 8 was already set on team 1 (I didnt see alot of peopel agreeing to kill team 2 rasta). Its all wifom no matter how you put it, when scum hit team 8 last night.
I dont know shit about analysis, I tried it but I jump to all sort of conclusions apparently, but team 3 would have been a well played mafia team and team 1 would have been painfully obvious or just bad townieness. Both of them started votes on team 6. 1's never caught fire, and it seems like mafia could have won with an easy sway of the votes for the lylo lynch. Hell team 6 could have kept quiet and our team would have been completely behind a team 1 lynch then.
If there is a glaringly obvious reason for mafia to have taken this course being 3&6, I'll be happy to follow whatever team 8 says. If you want further input on anything Ill be happy to try to talk about it.
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(Okay guys, sorry I didn't post for a while, was busy doing other stuff)
Team 6 claiming medic was to good to be true. I was so sure that Incog was scum, that I pushed away my past doubts about team 6.
Incog is obviously townie now. Although he has been wrong before about me and YI, his post makes a lot of sense.
Foolishness on the other hand has these posts yesterday
On September 26 2010 15:00 Foolishness wrote:
How about we just let bygones be bygones and all vote for team 2 eh?
On September 27 2010 00:36 Foolishness wrote:
Okay so let's see. One of team 6 and 8 is mafia. Team 8 wanted to kill team 1 the other day. Team 1 voted to kill team 6 yesterday (also made some analysis). I still don't think it's probable that the mafia would be voting for each other or posting analysis against each other at that stage of the game (why go through the effort when the town was misguided anyways?) This makes it unlikely that team 1 is mafia since they have a very weak connection to team 6 and team 8. Thus it seems that team 2 is probably the other mafia team, with either 6 or 8.
Of course this is all from my perspective (assuming I'm green). A big part of me feels like we should just kill team 2 now and let team 6 and team 8 duke it out over who's medic (the more time they have to argue the more obvious the real medic will become).
Notice that right now there is a 50% chance that his scum buddy will die, he has the taste of victory in his mouth and tries to make it 100% chance. He does indeed vote to kill team 6, but he probably anticipated that I would switch my vote if something seemed fishy
Although I haven't suspected them at all (Thank you Incog for bringing that to light). I'm going to think about this for a bit before voting. I'm now just really wary of the Team1/Team2 fight that was going to happen today, and it seems kindof influenced
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Seriously though. Why would Team 3 be supporting us if they were mafia? If they went after us, they easily could get a free kill and get the game almost ended.
Put my position as Neutral for now
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The chance of Incog faking medic is basically nil. No way they hold off on a hit just to do that. The medic is a huge threat to the mafia and they would love to have him dead. It's all wifom mind games since the mafia can think "incog will probably protect himself so we can freely kill someone else, but incog will know that and try to prot someone else since we know he claims to have tried that before, so we should hit incog." Doesn't implicate anyone.
Team 2: I thought they were mafia for pushing all innocent lynches but they did help kill Team 6, although less than Team 3. That said, a bus at that point would have totally made sense given how many people were against Team 6.
Team 3: If my intuition that one of Incog and Foolishness is mafia is correct, it would have to be Foolishness at this point rather than Incog as I had thought. I think Incog has this same gut feeling too, but the case he's pushing is all complicated wifom when Team 2 seems like the choice that follow Occam's Razor.
Team 2 jumped the early bandwagon on us and now is following the confirmed innocent team onto another team. They also split up their votes the previous day. I agree Rastaban has been too inactive but Divinek admits he is doing the same thing. Both teams are making apologies I would deem suspicious except that Incog's team did the same thing the day before.
Vote Team 2
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On September 30 2010 12:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
The chance of Incog faking medic is basically nil. No way they hold off on a hit just to do that. The medic is a huge threat to the mafia and they would love to have him dead. It's all wifom mind games since the mafia can think "incog will probably protect himself so we can freely kill someone else, but incog will know that and try to prot someone else since we know he claims to have tried that before, so we should hit incog." Doesn't implicate anyone.
Team 2: I thought they were mafia for pushing all innocent lynches but they did help kill Team 6, although less than Team 3. That said, a bus at that point would have totally made sense given how many people were against Team 6.
Team 3: If my intuition that one of Incog and Foolishness is mafia is correct, it would have to be Foolishness at this point rather than Incog as I had thought. I think Incog has this same gut feeling too, but the case he's pushing is all complicated wifom when Team 2 seems like the choice that follow Occam's Razor.
Team 2 jumped the early bandwagon on us and now is following the confirmed innocent team onto another team. They also split up their votes the previous day. I agree Rastaban has been too inactive but Divinek admits he is doing the same thing. Both teams are making apologies I would deem suspicious except that Incog's team did the same thing the day before.
Vote Team 2
I knew I would be busy so I stopped signing up for games, I signed up for this one a long time ago and kind of thought it was dead in the water, all of a sudden a lot of people show up and it was too late. I really owe Foolishness an apology as I am the one who asked him to play in the first place as my team mate but I haven't had the time to collaborate with him.
That said he has done a good job on his own spearheading the last lynch on team 6 so I there is little reason to doubt him. Unless he changes his analysis I assume he still thinks Team 2 is the mafia so...
[VOTE] Team 2
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On September 29 2010 23:23 Foolishness wrote:
Yes, you're right, that is weird logic there.
I still say team 2 is mafia over team 1 since it doesn't make much sense for team 1 to have been voting for their mafia buddy the other day. You haven't even commented on this "process of elimination" that I have posted about multiple times have you? I already said that it probably doesn't mean much to the rest of you but when it's plain obvious to me at the moment it's hard to say anything more.
At least team 1 has put in effort to defending people. When we were lynching team 7 they backed them up properly. If they were mafia (team 1) why bother putting up their mafia buddy as the other lynch, especially since RoL and BC looked really bad due to inactivity and lack of contributing. They could have easily just pushed for team 2 since team 2 was taking heat from the first day. Team 1 has made those long posts, has tried to figure things out. Have you seen team 2 do any of that from any of their 3 players? Not so much. SouthRawrea makes a semi-long post from time to time but that's about it.
Not to mention, I just went through 2 past games with each of these three. When they weren't mafia they were much more aggressive in their posting and calling people out. I haven't seen any of them perform as they did the last game when they were town. Almost all of their votes have been "yeah I agree with you, let's vote this guy", and Divinek just pulled it again after you accused me.
If you ask me, the choice between hitting you and hitting rastaban and I isn't an easy decision to make. That's probably debatable though.
And yes dude, I realize completely that I probably haven't been performing up to my usual town standards (although I thought my meeple analysis was sound at the time). And yes dude, I realize that rastaban hasn't really done anything in the thread this game. But I'm sitting here trying to figure things out and making sure that I'm not wrong about team 2. Team 2 hasn't done anything but blindly vote for anyone who's not team 6 (except when it was clear team 6 was getting lynched).
So Team 1 wouldn't have voted for their team mate on day 1, Team 2 wouldn't kill their lifeline (me) last night, so Team 3 is mafia? Doesn't make sense to me why you would agree that Team 1 is innocent from your point of view.
I'm not arguing that Team 1 is mafia at this point. I'm arguing that Team 2 is equally unlikely.
Although you don't seem to buy the idea that Team 2 doesn't want to hit me. Really, just think about it. From their point of view, I've been blasting Team 1 all game. You've been blasting them the last day. Killing me gives the very likely chance that you will follow through with your words and vote them the next day. Team 1 also is going to want to save themselves and vote Team 2, so Team 2 has much to fear from killing me, as that would mean they are likely to die. If you think about it, all 3 days someone who accused Team 1 died. Someone wants Team 1 dead. Team 2 doesn't have the arguing capabilities to make that happen. And you aren't doing that either. Which means someone is expecting me to kill them. This makes more sense from your point of view than Team 2's point of view since Team 2 has an interest in keeping themselves alive versus Team 1. You, on the other hand, don't if you are mafia.
Yeah, Team 2 is normally more vocal and active when town. Pyrr is also more active and accusative when town. You also are sharper and more focused when town. Honestly given the day 1/2 events, mafia had little incentive to post unless Team 1 is mafia defending themselves.
I can see how Team 2's posting has been utter garbage. I can also see how your posting is suspect. Its just that to me, the night kills don't make sense from Team 2's point of view. That's why I can't vote them.
On September 30 2010 06:17 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2010 02:37 Divinek wrote:
i was just hoping rasta was gonna pull out another analysis pegging me as mafia again so we could have an easy free mafa lynch. o well
im playing different in this game just because i generally feel lazier and the players involved in this game are pretty boring lol so there's no point in flaring things up. Why go out of my way to make big long posts when people are making them for me, especially when most of what they say agrees with my line of thinking as i go through the thread?
yeah it's pretty sheepish and looks bad, but i really do need to establish a lazy townie image for in future games when im mob and then i can say look i played shittily as town too! lol
i keep decent tabs on people i just never care to post them, that's why pm games are so much more fun.
oh bummian where for art thou
damn what a contentless post, ya lets lynch them team 2 jokers
LOL, you discovered my favorite past time, framing Div. Hey to be fair you weren't innocent when I did it as town I am really surprised that team i&i suspects my Foolishness and I. Foolishness has been working hardcore as town. The mafia obviously is between team 1 and 2 but it is hard to pinpoint which it is right now. Both have good arguments against them. I have to admit though, Foolishness' arguments towards team 2 seems pretty good. All the votes immediately on team 1 surprised me though as i thought most peopel agreed 2 should be next.
This whole paragraph is just sketchy. Contradictions and sketchy generalizations everywhere. You're over exaggerating Foolishness' hard work. His contributions are quite superficial compared to previous games. His major contribution was stating he would be willing to kill Team 7 but not Team 1. His analysis is shoddy, and there isn't much of it. His vote on Team 6 was just too easy to be considered pro-town points for him. Mafia isn't "obviously" between Team 1 and 2. If you would like to back that up with evidence, please do so. You claim its hard to tell which of the two is mafia right now. Can you tell me WHY its hard to pinpoint which is which right now? You say both have good arguments, but seem to favor Team 2 right now. Why do you favor a Team 2 lynch? Why do you say its hard to pinpoint but seem to imply a (nonexistent) consensus against Team 2? Foolishness' arguments against Team 2 ignore my concerns about the night kill pattern. And that's the big issue in my book.
The thing that's missing here is that this is sloppy play all around. A Team 3 as mafia isn't acting like a mafia that will go along with whichever mislynch occurs. Perhaps that's because they don't want to be scrutinized for easy lynching, especially since they've been "skeptical" of the arguments on Team 1 all along. Perhaps they expected me to die to make it an easy lynch on Team 2 today but don't want to look suspicious by jumping to Team 1. I don't know. It just seems that people just don't care.
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On September 30 2010 12:32 LSB wrote:
Seriously though. Why would Team 3 be supporting us if they were mafia? If they went after us, they easily could get a free kill and get the game almost ended.
Put my position as Neutral for now
Suddenly switching to supporting you after they've been opposing your lynch the whole time looks really sketchy and should make you very suspicious if you are indeed town. This would likely cause you to bring this fact to Team 2's attention, which could get Team 3 killed. The fact that I'm alive makes switching to you even a more sketchy move since he can't assume that I'm a sheeple. The fact that Foolishness's recent post shows that he doesn't really care possibly means that he knows hes doomed at this point. The Foolishness I know vigorously defends himself against shoddy (behavior) analysis, or vigorously pushes the lynch on someone scummy. It is possible that he just is unsure which of Team 1/2 is mafia given the poor play on all sides, but I find it more likely that he is mafia.
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On September 30 2010 12:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
The chance of Incog faking medic is basically nil. No way they hold off on a hit just to do that. The medic is a huge threat to the mafia and they would love to have him dead. It's all wifom mind games since the mafia can think "incog will probably protect himself so we can freely kill someone else, but incog will know that and try to prot someone else since we know he claims to have tried that before, so we should hit incog." Doesn't implicate anyone.
Team 2: I thought they were mafia for pushing all innocent lynches but they did help kill Team 6, although less than Team 3. That said, a bus at that point would have totally made sense given how many people were against Team 6.
Team 3: If my intuition that one of Incog and Foolishness is mafia is correct, it would have to be Foolishness at this point rather than Incog as I had thought. I think Incog has this same gut feeling too, but the case he's pushing is all complicated wifom when Team 2 seems like the choice that follow Occam's Razor.
Team 2 jumped the early bandwagon on us and now is following the confirmed innocent team onto another team. They also split up their votes the previous day. I agree Rastaban has been too inactive but Divinek admits he is doing the same thing. Both teams are making apologies I would deem suspicious except that Incog's team did the same thing the day before.
Vote Team 2
Its not complicated WIFOM. Its simple WIFOM. The thing is, I don't think Team 2 is smart enough or active enough to pull it off in the event that I was dead. Arguing against Foolishness isn't easy. Especially when the case the case against Team 1 is sketchy with the Day 2 defense of YI/meeple and the out of the blue vote against Team 6 (mafia). Team 2 would have to be suicidal to want me dead, since I was stating my intention to lynch Team 1 the previous day. This is WIFOM, but I think the WIFOM isn't pure. Its weighted. The choice is, Team 2 is suicidal mafia, or Team 2 is trying to psych us out by thinking they're suicidal mafia. I don't think Team 2 is that smart to pull that trick off. Its also a risky move if nobody points this out, as I've explained above. I'm not inclined to believe that Team 2 is that suicidal. Foolishness doesn't have any redeeming values so far so I'm content lynching him. Rastaban's recent post is also super sketchy and doesn't help his case.
As it is, I probably should've pressured Team 2 and said I was going to vote for them and see if they brought up this argument themselves, but alas it is too late for that.
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On September 30 2010 14:17 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2010 12:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
The chance of Incog faking medic is basically nil. No way they hold off on a hit just to do that. The medic is a huge threat to the mafia and they would love to have him dead. It's all wifom mind games since the mafia can think "incog will probably protect himself so we can freely kill someone else, but incog will know that and try to prot someone else since we know he claims to have tried that before, so we should hit incog." Doesn't implicate anyone.
Team 2: I thought they were mafia for pushing all innocent lynches but they did help kill Team 6, although less than Team 3. That said, a bus at that point would have totally made sense given how many people were against Team 6.
Team 3: If my intuition that one of Incog and Foolishness is mafia is correct, it would have to be Foolishness at this point rather than Incog as I had thought. I think Incog has this same gut feeling too, but the case he's pushing is all complicated wifom when Team 2 seems like the choice that follow Occam's Razor.
Team 2 jumped the early bandwagon on us and now is following the confirmed innocent team onto another team. They also split up their votes the previous day. I agree Rastaban has been too inactive but Divinek admits he is doing the same thing. Both teams are making apologies I would deem suspicious except that Incog's team did the same thing the day before.
Vote Team 2 I knew I would be busy so I stopped signing up for games, I signed up for this one a long time ago and kind of thought it was dead in the water, all of a sudden a lot of people show up and it was too late. I really owe Foolishness an apology as I am the one who asked him to play in the first place as my team mate but I haven't had the time to collaborate with him. That said he has done a good job on his own spearheading the last lynch on team 6 so I there is little reason to doubt him. Unless he changes his analysis I assume he still thinks Team 2 is the mafia so... [VOTE] Team 2
I've already explained why this doesn't give him the pro-townie points that you claim he has.
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On September 30 2010 17:08 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2010 12:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
The chance of Incog faking medic is basically nil. No way they hold off on a hit just to do that. The medic is a huge threat to the mafia and they would love to have him dead. It's all wifom mind games since the mafia can think "incog will probably protect himself so we can freely kill someone else, but incog will know that and try to prot someone else since we know he claims to have tried that before, so we should hit incog." Doesn't implicate anyone.
Team 2: I thought they were mafia for pushing all innocent lynches but they did help kill Team 6, although less than Team 3. That said, a bus at that point would have totally made sense given how many people were against Team 6.
Team 3: If my intuition that one of Incog and Foolishness is mafia is correct, it would have to be Foolishness at this point rather than Incog as I had thought. I think Incog has this same gut feeling too, but the case he's pushing is all complicated wifom when Team 2 seems like the choice that follow Occam's Razor.
Team 2 jumped the early bandwagon on us and now is following the confirmed innocent team onto another team. They also split up their votes the previous day. I agree Rastaban has been too inactive but Divinek admits he is doing the same thing. Both teams are making apologies I would deem suspicious except that Incog's team did the same thing the day before.
Vote Team 2 Its not complicated WIFOM. Its simple WIFOM. The thing is, I don't think Team 2 is smart enough or active enough to pull it off in the event that I was dead. Arguing against Foolishness isn't easy. Especially when the case the case against Team 1 is sketchy with the Day 2 defense of YI/meeple and the out of the blue vote against Team 6 (mafia). Team 2 would have to be suicidal to want me dead, since I was stating my intention to lynch Team 1 the previous day. This is WIFOM, but I think the WIFOM isn't pure. Its weighted. The choice is, Team 2 is suicidal mafia, or Team 2 is trying to psych us out by thinking they're suicidal mafia. I don't think Team 2 is that smart to pull that trick off. Its also a risky move if nobody points this out, as I've explained above. I'm not inclined to believe that Team 2 is that suicidal. Foolishness doesn't have any redeeming values so far so I'm content lynching him. Rastaban's recent post is also super sketchy and doesn't help his case. As it is, I probably should've pressured Team 2 and said I was going to vote for them and see if they brought up this argument themselves, but alas it is too late for that.
Mafia don't always lynch based on who is accusing them, since people's opinions changed. You have already proved that your lock-in on us was not that strong since you're going after Team 3 now. By killing the medic the mafia would have had the game in the bag. Any of the remaining teams could easily have guessed you'd prot someone else and put in a hit for you.
If they had killed you... hmm I get what you're saying now lol. If you had died, I was pretty convinced of Foolishness's innocence yesterday and so would probably have gone for Team 2. I didn't even see that till now but I suppose Foolishness would have been able to figure that out.
Still, Team 2 might have been unsure about who you would protect and could put a hit on you thinking you would prot Team 2 or maybe Team 3. And I still think behaviorally they are the sketchiest based on votes. Foolishness is less active than usual but I think everyone is this game.
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Reasons each team would try to hit team 8
Team1: Stupid?? Or hoping that people might try to go one level beyond and think 'well since incognito said he was for sure going to vote for us we'll kill him and people won't think we'd do something so obvious to kill someone attacking us.'
But it draws alot suspicion to them since he was attacking them + given their 'scummy' like play that made them more stuck out to everyone else.
Team2: Suicidal, retarded, blah blah. We're obviously the most suspect team, and thankfully someone decent at this game understands the rational despite our shitty play that we are most probably not mafia. Seriously killing incognito gains us nothing and only hurts us, we'd have been far better off hitting any OTHER team, would get us alot closer to a win if mafia
team3: They probably have the most to gain. Incognito cleared them as town, so if they hit him it might seem to not make 'sense' given that he has cleared them. That AND they were the first people on the team 6 wagon and they would know that when their obviously suspect team mate flips red they would get pro town points on top of incognito putting folishness' name in bold and green.
Obviously one of the other teams pushing for us is mafia, and the other team is just having a bit harder time seeing the light through our shoddy play.
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On September 30 2010 19:05 Divinek wrote:
Reasons each team would try to hit team 8
Team1: Stupid?? Or hoping that people might try to go one level beyond and think 'well since incognito said he was for sure going to vote for us we'll kill him and people won't think we'd do something so obvious to kill someone attacking us.'
But it draws alot suspicion to them since he was attacking them + given their 'scummy' like play that made them more stuck out to everyone else.
Team2: Suicidal, retarded, blah blah. We're obviously the most suspect team, and thankfully someone decent at this game understands the rational despite our shitty play that we are most probably not mafia. Seriously killing incognito gains us nothing and only hurts us, we'd have been far better off hitting any OTHER team, would get us alot closer to a win if mafia
team3: They probably have the most to gain. Incognito cleared them as town, so if they hit him it might seem to not make 'sense' given that he has cleared them. That AND they were the first people on the team 6 wagon and they would know that when their obviously suspect team mate flips red they would get pro town points on top of incognito putting folishness' name in bold and green.
Obviously one of the other teams pushing for us is mafia, and the other team is just having a bit harder time seeing the light through our shoddy play.
I disagree with this. Until incognito started tossing WIFOM all over the place us and team 8 were though townies. This is evidenced by your whole team including you having your vote on the other team while team 1 has there vote on you.
ALL we would have to do is kill one of you and boom the other is immediately though the mafia team.
Hitting Us or Incog is smart play though if you are team 1 or 2 since you leave the other suspect team alive. Obviously we are not confirmed but I am somewhat amazed incognito is going for us. I thought his analysis was tiers above ours but it shows hindsight is 50/50.
I see now why so many people talk about when balancing a game if you have 2 top people in a game even when they are both town they try to kill each other off (probably because it is harder to read)
I don't get where Foolishness is acting different though, Go look at the PM game we played together, he played almost the same as this game.
in the end the mafia does reside in team 1 or 2, I think 2 makes the most logical sense.
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