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Okay this was silly. xD
LSB+Pyrr should hit Incog the last night. If Incog self-protected, it's still 50-50 shot the next day. If Incog protects someone else they win.
So that's 1/3 50%, and 2/3 100% -> 5/6
Whereas this way they either win if Incog self-protects or protects them, and lose if Incog protects Team 3.
That's 2/3 100%, 1/3 0% -> 4/6
Silly people. >_>
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yeah id have thought that was quite obvious
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Isn't this the very definition of WIFOM. I mean if that is the case then Infun was silly for protecting us since they should have hit him. The whole point was that both sides were trying to guess what would happen. I think it is also unfair to say there was a 50% chance infun would have given them the win if he had self protected since he did protect us meaning he viewed us as more innocent than the other team.
As for LSB messing up, maybe he did but they lost due to 2 hits being blocked and not do to town voting them out when we could have so I don't know that I would call there actions a mistake. Maybe they were but the incorrect lynches were more of a mistake than anything LSB's team did.
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LOL, that is great. I think Mafia would have won this if they had followed through on Chez's plan ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
On February 18 2010 12:18 Chezinu wrote: I would hit the remaining townie. If he is protected I would roleclaim medic to the remaining townie and convince him that I'm the true medic. I obvious caught the last guy. Then I would spam GG mafia throughout the thread to sound convincing. I would be like taunt taunt taunt!!! It would be fun...
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On October 04 2010 23:17 rastaban wrote: Isn't this the very definition of WIFOM. I mean if that is the case then Infun was silly for protecting us since they should have hit him. The whole point was that both sides were trying to guess what would happen. I think it is also unfair to say there was a 50% chance infun would have given them the win if he had self protected since he did protect us meaning he viewed us as more innocent than the other team.
As for LSB messing up, maybe he did but they lost due to 2 hits being blocked and not do to town voting them out when we could have so I don't know that I would call there actions a mistake. Maybe they were but the incorrect lynches were more of a mistake than anything LSB's team did.
Dude, if Incog self-protected it would be 50/50, that's better that fucking yourself over. Period. This isn't WIFOM about hitting yourself or the other team, this is like, you should both target the medic.
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Oh completely forgot about that, lol.
On October 05 2010 12:17 Korynne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2010 23:17 rastaban wrote: Isn't this the very definition of WIFOM. I mean if that is the case then Infun was silly for protecting us since they should have hit him. The whole point was that both sides were trying to guess what would happen. I think it is also unfair to say there was a 50% chance infun would have given them the win if he had self protected since he did protect us meaning he viewed us as more innocent than the other team.
As for LSB messing up, maybe he did but they lost due to 2 hits being blocked and not do to town voting them out when we could have so I don't know that I would call there actions a mistake. Maybe they were but the incorrect lynches were more of a mistake than anything LSB's team did. Dude, if Incog self-protected it would be 50/50, that's better that fucking yourself over. Period. This isn't WIFOM about hitting yourself or the other team, this is like, you should both target the medic.
That's all under the assumption that mafia's goal is to not immediately lose. If mafia is certain my best move is to protect myself but they're unsure of whether or not they'd get lynched the next day, they could have sufficient reason to just hit the other target for the instant win. Your probabilistic methods assume I'm going to flip a coin the next day to pick a lynch target.
All the endgame drama aside, I'm really disappointed by everyone's play including myself. The middle game was just a bunch of waffling and bad logic by me. Although nobody was really doing anything (except maybe Pandain/BB). Not sure if the inactivity was because of my aggressiveness or just general apathy. In any case, I'm not going to be playing again anytime soon. The team melee format is nice though so I'd like to see that continue, maybe on a larger scale next time Seems like TL mafia is running low on steam though...
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I wasn't sure that it would be worth my playing because of how this turned out. I felt I had a good understanding of what was going on, I just didn't have the time to be convincing. It really sucked.
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On October 05 2010 18:27 Incognito wrote:Oh completely forgot about that, lol. Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 12:17 Korynne wrote:On October 04 2010 23:17 rastaban wrote: Isn't this the very definition of WIFOM. I mean if that is the case then Infun was silly for protecting us since they should have hit him. The whole point was that both sides were trying to guess what would happen. I think it is also unfair to say there was a 50% chance infun would have given them the win if he had self protected since he did protect us meaning he viewed us as more innocent than the other team.
As for LSB messing up, maybe he did but they lost due to 2 hits being blocked and not do to town voting them out when we could have so I don't know that I would call there actions a mistake. Maybe they were but the incorrect lynches were more of a mistake than anything LSB's team did. Dude, if Incog self-protected it would be 50/50, that's better that fucking yourself over. Period. This isn't WIFOM about hitting yourself or the other team, this is like, you should both target the medic. That's all under the assumption that mafia's goal is to not immediately lose. If mafia is certain my best move is to protect myself but they're unsure of whether or not they'd get lynched the next day, they could have sufficient reason to just hit the other target for the instant win. Your probabilistic methods assume I'm going to flip a coin the next day to pick a lynch target. All the endgame drama aside, I'm really disappointed by everyone's play including myself. The middle game was just a bunch of waffling and bad logic by me. Although nobody was really doing anything (except maybe Pandain/BB). Not sure if the inactivity was because of my aggressiveness or just general apathy. In any case, I'm not going to be playing again anytime soon. The team melee format is nice though so I'd like to see that continue, maybe on a larger scale next time ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) Seems like TL mafia is running low on steam though...
BM asked me at the beginning what my plan was, and I said I was just going to chill Day 1 then on Day 2 start playing for real. When we died Night 1 I was like wtffffffffff we barely did anything :/
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you should know you're a popular night 1 kill!
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Eh... I thought it was a fun game... although some logic that was being thrown around was pretty silly. I think it's all the more dangerous when the game is so small... gg town anyways
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On a curious note, I still can claim that I've never been lynched in a TL mafia game ever. Although I got really close this time
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