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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
October 04 2010 13:10 GMT
#741
Okay this was silly. xD

LSB+Pyrr should hit Incog the last night. If Incog self-protected, it's still 50-50 shot the next day. If Incog protects someone else they win.

So that's 1/3 50%, and 2/3 100% -> 5/6

Whereas this way they either win if Incog self-protects or protects them, and lose if Incog protects Team 3.

That's 2/3 100%, 1/3 0% -> 4/6

Silly people. >_>
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
October 04 2010 13:55 GMT
#742
yeah id have thought that was quite obvious
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
October 04 2010 14:17 GMT
#743
Isn't this the very definition of WIFOM. I mean if that is the case then Infun was silly for protecting us since they should have hit him. The whole point was that both sides were trying to guess what would happen. I think it is also unfair to say there was a 50% chance infun would have given them the win if he had self protected since he did protect us meaning he viewed us as more innocent than the other team.

As for LSB messing up, maybe he did but they lost due to 2 hits being blocked and not do to town voting them out when we could have so I don't know that I would call there actions a mistake. Maybe they were but the incorrect lynches were more of a mistake than anything LSB's team did.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 04 2010 14:22 GMT
#744
ha!

Funny How Things turn out
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
October 04 2010 15:02 GMT
#745
On October 04 2010 23:22 Ace wrote:
ha!

Funny How Things turn out

LOL, that is great. I think Mafia would have won this if they had followed through on Chez's plan
On February 18 2010 12:18 Chezinu wrote:
I would hit the remaining townie. If he is protected I would roleclaim medic to the remaining townie and convince him that I'm the true medic. I obvious caught the last guy. Then I would spam GG mafia throughout the thread to sound convincing. I would be like taunt taunt taunt!!! It would be fun...

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
October 05 2010 03:17 GMT
#746
On October 04 2010 23:17 rastaban wrote:
Isn't this the very definition of WIFOM. I mean if that is the case then Infun was silly for protecting us since they should have hit him. The whole point was that both sides were trying to guess what would happen. I think it is also unfair to say there was a 50% chance infun would have given them the win if he had self protected since he did protect us meaning he viewed us as more innocent than the other team.

As for LSB messing up, maybe he did but they lost due to 2 hits being blocked and not do to town voting them out when we could have so I don't know that I would call there actions a mistake. Maybe they were but the incorrect lynches were more of a mistake than anything LSB's team did.


Dude, if Incog self-protected it would be 50/50, that's better that fucking yourself over. Period. This isn't WIFOM about hitting yourself or the other team, this is like, you should both target the medic.
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 05 2010 09:27 GMT
#747
On October 04 2010 23:22 Ace wrote:
ha!

Funny How Things turn out


Oh completely forgot about that, lol.

On October 05 2010 12:17 Korynne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 23:17 rastaban wrote:
Isn't this the very definition of WIFOM. I mean if that is the case then Infun was silly for protecting us since they should have hit him. The whole point was that both sides were trying to guess what would happen. I think it is also unfair to say there was a 50% chance infun would have given them the win if he had self protected since he did protect us meaning he viewed us as more innocent than the other team.

As for LSB messing up, maybe he did but they lost due to 2 hits being blocked and not do to town voting them out when we could have so I don't know that I would call there actions a mistake. Maybe they were but the incorrect lynches were more of a mistake than anything LSB's team did.


Dude, if Incog self-protected it would be 50/50, that's better that fucking yourself over. Period. This isn't WIFOM about hitting yourself or the other team, this is like, you should both target the medic.


That's all under the assumption that mafia's goal is to not immediately lose. If mafia is certain my best move is to protect myself but they're unsure of whether or not they'd get lynched the next day, they could have sufficient reason to just hit the other target for the instant win. Your probabilistic methods assume I'm going to flip a coin the next day to pick a lynch target.

All the endgame drama aside, I'm really disappointed by everyone's play including myself. The middle game was just a bunch of waffling and bad logic by me. Although nobody was really doing anything (except maybe Pandain/BB). Not sure if the inactivity was because of my aggressiveness or just general apathy. In any case, I'm not going to be playing again anytime soon. The team melee format is nice though so I'd like to see that continue, maybe on a larger scale next time Seems like TL mafia is running low on steam though...
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
October 05 2010 11:48 GMT
#748
I wasn't sure that it would be worth my playing because of how this turned out. I felt I had a good understanding of what was going on, I just didn't have the time to be convincing. It really sucked.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 12:28:22
October 05 2010 12:28 GMT
#749
On October 05 2010 18:27 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 23:22 Ace wrote:
ha!

Funny How Things turn out


Oh completely forgot about that, lol.

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 12:17 Korynne wrote:
On October 04 2010 23:17 rastaban wrote:
Isn't this the very definition of WIFOM. I mean if that is the case then Infun was silly for protecting us since they should have hit him. The whole point was that both sides were trying to guess what would happen. I think it is also unfair to say there was a 50% chance infun would have given them the win if he had self protected since he did protect us meaning he viewed us as more innocent than the other team.

As for LSB messing up, maybe he did but they lost due to 2 hits being blocked and not do to town voting them out when we could have so I don't know that I would call there actions a mistake. Maybe they were but the incorrect lynches were more of a mistake than anything LSB's team did.


Dude, if Incog self-protected it would be 50/50, that's better that fucking yourself over. Period. This isn't WIFOM about hitting yourself or the other team, this is like, you should both target the medic.


That's all under the assumption that mafia's goal is to not immediately lose. If mafia is certain my best move is to protect myself but they're unsure of whether or not they'd get lynched the next day, they could have sufficient reason to just hit the other target for the instant win. Your probabilistic methods assume I'm going to flip a coin the next day to pick a lynch target.

All the endgame drama aside, I'm really disappointed by everyone's play including myself. The middle game was just a bunch of waffling and bad logic by me. Although nobody was really doing anything (except maybe Pandain/BB). Not sure if the inactivity was because of my aggressiveness or just general apathy. In any case, I'm not going to be playing again anytime soon. The team melee format is nice though so I'd like to see that continue, maybe on a larger scale next time Seems like TL mafia is running low on steam though...


BM asked me at the beginning what my plan was, and I said I was just going to chill Day 1 then on Day 2 start playing for real. When we died Night 1 I was like wtffffffffff we barely did anything :/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
October 05 2010 15:17 GMT
#750
you should know you're a popular night 1 kill!
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
October 05 2010 15:32 GMT
#751
Eh... I thought it was a fun game... although some logic that was being thrown around was pretty silly. I think it's all the more dangerous when the game is so small... gg town anyways
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 06 2010 00:15 GMT
#752
On a curious note, I still can claim that I've never been lynched in a TL mafia game ever. Although I got really close this time
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