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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 23 2010 21:21 GMT
#401
On August 24 2010 05:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 01:22 Radfield wrote:
On August 23 2010 23:16 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I picked Day Vig before Ace redesigned the Draft list...Now that I'm higher on the list...I think I'll be getting something more...useful.


Why are you ignoring the plan? It's like you're determined to be hard-headed about this "game hasn't started" business. Let me quote Ace for you "The game has now officially started!"

Either post why you think the plan has flaws so we can iron them out, like citizen is doing, or help out by coming up with something else. Don't make excuses for why you're not helping.

Citizen, I have more to say to address and expand on your concerns, I just don't have the time right now.

Also, People may need to send in new roles to Ace since the drafting order has changed.

Who said I didn't follow the plan? I just would of Day Vig'd BM had I been at slot ten. And sheep my way into a plan? Pshhaa...
PYP
Pick Your Power
Winning =/= Fun

Picking what role I am is the point of PYP in my eyes, and attempting to win. That's the fun in this game to me. I didn't say I disregarded the plan, and would not tell anyone else to, but had I been at spot ten, I would have picked Day Vig and killed Bill Murray.






that was my one true hope as well going into this draft
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 23 2010 21:37 GMT
#402
On August 23 2010 11:05 Radfield wrote:
Also, looks like Brownbear took 1,1, since presumably JeeJee stuck with 1,1. And I assume Divinek took 2,1 with DTA.


I took 20,20.
SUNSFANNED
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 23 2010 21:42 GMT
#403
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 23 2010 22:00 GMT
#404
On August 24 2010 06:21 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 05:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 24 2010 01:22 Radfield wrote:
On August 23 2010 23:16 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I picked Day Vig before Ace redesigned the Draft list...Now that I'm higher on the list...I think I'll be getting something more...useful.


Why are you ignoring the plan? It's like you're determined to be hard-headed about this "game hasn't started" business. Let me quote Ace for you "The game has now officially started!"

Either post why you think the plan has flaws so we can iron them out, like citizen is doing, or help out by coming up with something else. Don't make excuses for why you're not helping.

Citizen, I have more to say to address and expand on your concerns, I just don't have the time right now.

Also, People may need to send in new roles to Ace since the drafting order has changed.

Who said I didn't follow the plan? I just would of Day Vig'd BM had I been at slot ten. And sheep my way into a plan? Pshhaa...
PYP
Pick Your Power
Winning =/= Fun

Picking what role I am is the point of PYP in my eyes, and attempting to win. That's the fun in this game to me. I didn't say I disregarded the plan, and would not tell anyone else to, but had I been at spot ten, I would have picked Day Vig and killed Bill Murray.






that was my one true hope as well going into this draft

At this point you might as well stick to the list. Also, take the RNG part seriously - we need doctors and the meth man threat.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 23 2010 22:01 GMT
#405
On August 24 2010 07:00 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 06:21 Divinek wrote:
On August 24 2010 05:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 24 2010 01:22 Radfield wrote:
On August 23 2010 23:16 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I picked Day Vig before Ace redesigned the Draft list...Now that I'm higher on the list...I think I'll be getting something more...useful.


Why are you ignoring the plan? It's like you're determined to be hard-headed about this "game hasn't started" business. Let me quote Ace for you "The game has now officially started!"

Either post why you think the plan has flaws so we can iron them out, like citizen is doing, or help out by coming up with something else. Don't make excuses for why you're not helping.

Citizen, I have more to say to address and expand on your concerns, I just don't have the time right now.

Also, People may need to send in new roles to Ace since the drafting order has changed.

Who said I didn't follow the plan? I just would of Day Vig'd BM had I been at slot ten. And sheep my way into a plan? Pshhaa...
PYP
Pick Your Power
Winning =/= Fun

Picking what role I am is the point of PYP in my eyes, and attempting to win. That's the fun in this game to me. I didn't say I disregarded the plan, and would not tell anyone else to, but had I been at spot ten, I would have picked Day Vig and killed Bill Murray.






that was my one true hope as well going into this draft

At this point you might as well stick to the list. Also, take the RNG part seriously - we need doctors and the meth man threat.


oh dont worry i stuck to the plan, even after the draft list changed i re RNG'd my role
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 23 2010 22:02 GMT
#406
4 hours till deadline is up. If you don't send in a PM you will be stuck with your Vanilla role PM.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
August 23 2010 22:13 GMT
#407
On August 23 2010 21:15 Ace wrote:
oops, new draft order ^_^

  1. rastaban
  2. chaoser
  3. LSB
  4. Hesmyrr
  5. zeks
  6. jspazz
  7. Fishball
  8. ~Opz~
  9. citi.zen
  10. BrownBear
  11. JeeJee
  12. DarthThienAn
  13. Divinek
  14. Radfield
  15. Bill Murray
  16. bumatlarge
  17. Pandain
  18. siNiquity
  19. SouthRawrea






Putting this on the current page so no one misses it (like I almost did!)
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
August 23 2010 22:38 GMT
#408
Also, Pandain could you post your number? I'm wondering if the updated list is correct. <3
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 23 2010 22:43 GMT
#409
No it's not correct, good thing you mentioned that to me. With so many number changes I mistyped your name. New list coming soon.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 23 2010 22:43 GMT
#410
On August 24 2010 07:38 SiNiquity wrote:
Also, Pandain could you post your number? I'm wondering if the updated list is correct. <3


I actually switched mine and had 9,7
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 23 2010 22:44 GMT
#411
On August 24 2010 07:43 Ace wrote:
No it's not correct, good thing you mentioned that to me. With so many number changes I mistyped your name. New list coming soon.


No....... you can't expect me to get mason a third time in a row!

*cry*
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 23:06:54
August 23 2010 22:49 GMT
#412
Ok this should be it.

  1. rastaban
  2. chaoser
  3. LSB
  4. Hesmyrr
  5. zeks
  6. SouthRawrea
  7. jspazz
  8. Fishball
  9. ~Opz~
  10. citi.zen
  11. BrownBear
  12. JeeJee
  13. DarthThienAn
  14. siNiquity
  15. Divinek
  16. Radfield
  17. Bill Murray
  18. bumatlarge
  19. Pandain






Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
August 23 2010 23:04 GMT
#413
lol i have no idea how this system works
hesmyrr picked 7 i picked 8 how did southrawrea get in between us two
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 23 2010 23:06 GMT
#414
oh thats a typo he isn't
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 23 2010 23:16 GMT
#415
:-) resent. Hopefully this is it...
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
August 23 2010 23:16 GMT
#416
Citi.zen's Post+ Show Spoiler +
On August 23 2010 23:55 citi.zen wrote:
I like the probabilistic nature of the list, but still fret about how the mafia/Sk can take advantage of it.

Some concerns:

1. "Reserved" roles.

Lower drafting mafia (and the SK, for that matter) can take whatever role they want and claim they didn't get any role. For example, grab any of Pardoner / Floridian(great for SK) / Role Blocker / God Father then say "uhhh... I went for a defensive role but it was taken". I know Radfield said he's not too concerned with these roles, but to me they are a HUGE deal late game - think of all the missed lynches we can have. They are, after all, in the game to help the mafia. It's true that in principle we could verify "plain vanilla" claims, but in reality sorting it out will take too long & the mafia can always justify their claim based on how dead people flipped. So all these roles are too safe for the mafia to grab for my liking.

2. Blue sniping.

The list still makes finding investigative roles quite easy once the lynchings start. Once the meth man is dead th SK can get a very clear hit list with likely bullet bill and the tracker candidates.

I cannot emphasize this enough: once the drafting phase is over, don't start claiming your roles in the thread unless yo are 100% sure it leads to catching a liar. You might think claiming what you got or didn't get does you no harm, but remember it will also reveal information about other players.

3. The list.

For me there are two key town investigative roles: bullet bill and tracker. These are great roles to find mafia and the only ones to detect the SK. The alignment cop is also important, but given their uncertain sanity + inability to detect SK/GF it's a lot weaker in my book. I'd suggest prioritizing bullet bill over all other investigative roles, placing tracker next on our list and leaving the alignment cop for last.

Finally, please don't just feel like you are doing your job at this stage by using an RNG and calling it a day. Help us improve this plan by thinking critically, or we'll be screwed later on.



First off, something we need to be very careful of: If we follow this plan, no one can reveal if they got, or did not get the role they went for. DO NOT STATE IF YOU GET YOUR ROLE OR NOT. Posting that you are vanilla gives the mafia the information they need to hunt down our powerful investigative roles. It's very important that everyone's role, or lack of a role, is kept hidden, at least for the first part of the game.

Citizen, remember that by leaving those roles(Pardoner, Floridian, RB, GF) for the mafia, we also gain another powerful investigative role in the rolecop. Which takes us from BB and tracker, to BB, tracker and rolecop. So I think it turns out fairly neutral both ways; If they choose to go after the more powerful roles, then we also get a more powerful rolecop.

Again, no one should be claiming what they did or did not get in the thread. The exception to this would be if you were pick 5 and went for rolecop (or pick6 and joat, or pick7 and Bullet Bill) and the role was already taken. Since you are the first person available to take that role(according to the plan), it means a mafia must be in front of you, and swiped the role.



On August 24 2010 05:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:

And also, Radfield, you seem to be in the same mindset as PYP 1. Weren't you SK that game?

My recommendation would be for Radfield to be tracked night one. BM to be Bullet Billed. If there is a watcher, I'd say watch Radfield, and I would be more than happy to request medic protection on him.

I would look into Fishball also, but knowing what I know about Fishball, I wouldn't expect too much from him til later in the game.
<3 Fishball



I was SK that game, and my plan was to play extremely pro-town, which I did with stunning success. So much success, that the mafia Day-Vigged me. So if you're trying to say I seem extremely pro-town, then thanks But you raise a good point, at no time can anyone be confirmed to be non-SK solely through their actions. The SK should look like a townie, because it's in the SK's best interest to kill off the mafia.

Also, If you truly think I'm the Serial Killer, you would try to keep me around, not try to kill me off. I made cases against and lynched a mafia on both Day 1 and Day 2 in PYP1, as well as soaking up a hit from the mafia.

At pick #16 I don't need medic protection. Honestly, chances are I'll end up vanilla, which means it's my job to take hits. If I last past night 2, then we can start burning up investigative night actions on me.


It's far too early to be trying to place night actions anyways. We still have 48hours before day 1 ends, and 72 hours before those night actions need to be in place. Plenty of time to scum hunt.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
August 23 2010 23:20 GMT
#417
The draft order flipping around seriously hurts my plan Chances of people not working off the right number becomes a concern.

Doesn't really matter though, there should be enough redundancy that we get the roles we need anyways.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 23 2010 23:26 GMT
#418
oh ffs changed again
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
August 23 2010 23:44 GMT
#419
On August 23 2010 15:43 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm also going to be voting you this entire game until you die.


Add dk and me to the list then. Terrible plan + relatively high number for yourself? I had no problem leaving my number [6][1] unchanged and "taking one for the team" to make sure you were @ the bottom. Worst part is, the plan was so bad and your self-interest so well represented (anyone else steals my # and I'm going to lynch them!) that 3 people thought it worthwhile to sacrifice their pick to bring you to the bottom.

So bury the hatchet before you bury yourself with it.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 23 2010 23:51 GMT
#420
Bm is only ok as Mafia, otherwise he's disruptive or worse. Would be ok lynching him... why not :-)
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
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