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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 02 2010 00:40 GMT
#461
ebwop: ALTHOUGH, TO BE FAIR, I can see arguments for lynching traitor day 1 instead of gambling that we get GF day one.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 02 2010 00:44 GMT
#462
"People have thrown around Korynne, L, BM, and YellowInk as possible GF or mafia candidates. These guys are the 4 most active players in the thread,"

L has NOT been active until just now

A lot of middle of the road players have also proven that they've failed to read my posts clearly.
I called Korynne out on being a traitor like 7 pages ago or more. Get with the times. Her play could merely be her being excited at being a new, blue role. I'm not sure enough to lynch.

A lot of my posts have also had a good deal of content, so drop the whole spammy shit.

Also it's funny you're defending browney... is that your alt account? if it is, it's like flamewheel
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 02 2010 00:45 GMT
#463
Also, brownbear, thanks for noticing i'm not scum.
Really hard one there.
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
July 02 2010 00:53 GMT
#464
On July 02 2010 09:45 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, brownbear, thanks for noticing i'm not scum.
Really hard one there.

You say that, yet people failed to realize the same last game.

Just sayin' bro, most people are bads.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 02 2010 01:03 GMT
#465
On July 02 2010 09:53 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2010 09:45 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, brownbear, thanks for noticing i'm not scum.
Really hard one there.

You say that, yet people failed to realize the same last game.

Just sayin' bro, most people are bads.


it's true. i'm not sayin' i'm good either, but at least i know how to read and be active.
like earlier hesmyrr is trying to say i need to provide reasons for voting double lynch when i provided 3


if i was mafia, i wouldn't want to risk being an idiot, and i wouldn't want to act scummy. i would stick to 1 liners a lot more, and i sure as hell wouldn't vote double lynch. i figured that 10% chance of lynching the godfather is better than a 5%. 1/10 of essentially locking up a win day 2? not terrible odds. I figured it might be in line with a random lynch > a no lynch on day 1. Since all the policy and math people are disagreeing with me, I suppose I'm wrong on this. My 3rd reason I can't really remember, but I know I had one. I think it was something like "it'd be better to use them now than to not use them at all and perish as a town without having ever used them". Sort of like your qualms on mislynching multiple times.

then I get brownbear claiming i'm spamming and worthless now, when i have been scumhunting more than anyone.
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YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
July 02 2010 01:11 GMT
#466
While I'm still undecided about the Korynne role block plan, my vote is going to zeks. We're more than 450 posts deep and he is usually far more active on day 1 than this. He has made one post with no substance.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
July 02 2010 01:14 GMT
#467
On July 02 2010 10:03 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2010 09:53 L wrote:
On July 02 2010 09:45 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, brownbear, thanks for noticing i'm not scum.
Really hard one there.

You say that, yet people failed to realize the same last game.

Just sayin' bro, most people are bads.


it's true. i'm not sayin' i'm good either, but at least i know how to read and be active.
like earlier hesmyrr is trying to say i need to provide reasons for voting double lynch when i provided 3


if i was mafia, i wouldn't want to risk being an idiot, and i wouldn't want to act scummy. i would stick to 1 liners a lot more, and i sure as hell wouldn't vote double lynch. i figured that 10% chance of lynching the godfather is better than a 5%. 1/10 of essentially locking up a win day 2? not terrible odds. I figured it might be in line with a random lynch > a no lynch on day 1. Since all the policy and math people are disagreeing with me, I suppose I'm wrong on this. My 3rd reason I can't really remember, but I know I had one. I think it was something like "it'd be better to use them now than to not use them at all and perish as a town without having ever used them". Sort of like your qualms on mislynching multiple times.

then I get brownbear claiming i'm spamming and worthless now, when i have been scumhunting more than anyone.


While we do indeed benefit by killing the GF early, we only have 2 double lynches. I'd much prefer having one ready later on to drop mafia kp or clean out 2 mafia when our DT and coroner information comes in.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
July 02 2010 01:28 GMT
#468
@DTA I think this was asked earlier but we didn't get an answer. What is the order of priorities in night actions? For instance, if you role block and recruit a given target, does it block the mafia KP? If you recruit and night kill a given target, does their body show up as mafia or town aligned?
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 02 2010 01:35 GMT
#469
On July 02 2010 10:28 YellowInk wrote:
@DTA I think this was asked earlier but we didn't get an answer. What is the order of priorities in night actions? For instance, if you role block and recruit a given target, does it block the mafia KP? If you recruit and night kill a given target, does their body show up as mafia or town aligned?


For the 1st one it does not block the KP if they are blocked on the night they are recruited, (mod stated this a few pages back) so jailing them as well may be required.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 02 2010 01:36 GMT
#470
I don't know about the second one, don't kills usually resolve last? so I would think yes.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 02 2010 01:37 GMT
#471
And that was meant for DTA to answer, so i will just shut up now o.O
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
July 02 2010 01:37 GMT
#472
On July 02 2010 10:35 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2010 10:28 YellowInk wrote:
@DTA I think this was asked earlier but we didn't get an answer. What is the order of priorities in night actions? For instance, if you role block and recruit a given target, does it block the mafia KP? If you recruit and night kill a given target, does their body show up as mafia or town aligned?


For the 1st one it does not block the KP if they are blocked on the night they are recruited, (mod stated this a few pages back) so jailing them as well may be required.

Ok, thanks. Also, still looking for that OP edit requested earlier.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 02 2010 01:38 GMT
#473
On July 02 2010 10:03 Bill Murray wrote:
then I get brownbear claiming i'm spamming and worthless now, when i have been scumhunting more than anyone.


Hey now, don't put words in my mouth. I never said you were worthless, in fact I said I consider you one of the better mafia players on this site. Your level of activity is awesome, it's just some of your posts have been abrasive and/or scummy. Chillax dude, no offense was meant, I'm sorry if you took it the wrong way
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
July 02 2010 01:54 GMT
#474
BB I don't see what's wrong with my plan. I mean this is just like in other games where I've come up with ideas. I don't think I'm any good at behavioural analysis, I mostly just kinda post a summary and a couple comments and hope things go along. I get excited when I can try to shove a little more math and logic into things. xD

I still think the roleblock idea is valid. I first thought it was can't roleblock two nights in a row, so I mapped out the plan like that. I held on to the plan because no one was giving me proper arguments against it. I still think it's good and we should do it, just the roleblocking part I mean.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 02 2010 02:01 GMT
#475
Well now that everyone's all good and dandy ^_^ we need to agree on a plan. We have 24 hours for our first lynch.

Plan L

Have a mason claim and jail chain him while he directs the scum hunt.

Pros: Confirmed townie that everyone can trust.
Analysis of the night hits is a possibility.

Cons: Sacrificing a jailkeep every night which COULD have been used to block recruitment or a night hit.


Plan K

Have a majority decided roleblock each night while lynching inactives.

Pros: Can pinpoint scum, slowly (giving DT time to do their checks).

Cons: Gives mafia too much control. If a top player is roleblocked then scum can simply choose not to hit anyone so that the town will lynch the top player.
Lets the GF recruit the roleblocked townie freely.
If the person to be roleblocked is a mason, then the GF gets a free mason recruit (which is nearly impossible otherwise).
Cannot analyse night hits if scum choose not to kill anyone.

I like L's plan better.
lalala
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
July 02 2010 02:10 GMT
#476
Between the two of those I think I like L's plan a little more than K. The downside to L is that while we may have a trusted townie to direct our scum hunt, we have to hope that they have a decent scum sense so that they can actually lead and not be influenced by too many forces within the thread. If it comes down to it, and the jailkeeper really needs to be used else where, hopefully our Mason leader will have put us on a good enough path that we keep going without them should they get taken out.

The nice thing about K's plan is that DT checks are 100%, so if the DT is an honest one, we'll be getting good clean info. It comes down to time. Given enough time, the Mafia will find ways in and slowly gather up more and more blue roles, something we cannot allow.

Let me know if I'm off about something in either plan, as I'm sure I may have missed something lol.

In summary, I like L's plan better for now
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
July 02 2010 02:17 GMT
#477
People who support L's plan, I think you are over valuing having a confirmed townie. Just because someone is confirmed town does not mean they will necessarily make the best decisions. This would be a worthy plan if PMs were allowed as roles could be organized.

After giving K's plan some final thought, I have to stand against it. I still believe that it could be used on occasion when circumstances warrant, but the drawbacks are too great to use every day.

Townies - play smart, be active.

zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
July 02 2010 02:33 GMT
#478
I'm for L's plan. It essentially parallels a set up with a townie mayor.

"Play smart, be active" easier said than done - on both accounts.

Going out for Canada Day celebrations. Will cast my vote for Korynne. It was between YI or her but I'll give YI a chance cause if he's green then he "can" be a great asset for the town. Up to this point I feel like they've been trying to divide the town more than bring people together.

Apologies for last of activity, Canada Day weekend - going out really soon! Just wanted to cast my vote before I left. Let's get L's plan rolling after first lynch.

PS. I am an integral part in that plan so you don't want to lynch me first night. I hope I don't die like I did in HP mafia when I was gone a couple hours and suddenly everyone stacked on me for no reason. Serious. I'm more important this game than the other ones.
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
July 02 2010 02:35 GMT
#479
There's zero reason to claim during the night vs during the day. If you're actually mason no one's going to contradict your claim and kill you. If you're not mason and you're the jailer, you... you just ruined the plan.

Ah jesus.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 02 2010 02:37 GMT
#480
On July 02 2010 11:33 zeks wrote:PS. I am an integral part in that plan so you don't want to lynch me first night. I hope I don't die like I did in HP mafia when I was gone a couple hours and suddenly everyone stacked on me for no reason. Serious. I'm more important this game than the other ones.

If you aren't mason, that was the worst thing to happen in this game. Period.
lalala
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