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Hugoboss21
Profile Joined June 2009
France346 Posts
June 08 2010 04:40 GMT
#1021
Damn a vigi modkilled? that suxs.


On June 08 2010 11:44 zeks wrote:
Ai....the 3 warned people can you please do something ? Why go through the trouble of signing up for a game that you're not going to play?


SrY, didn't know w/ school it would be hard to follow this game much. I'll try to be more active =/
In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. --Carl Sagan
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
June 08 2010 04:41 GMT
#1022
On June 08 2010 11:22 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2010 11:14 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Well at least MooCow wasn't blue.

Can't believe we lost a godamn vigi for inactivity. What kind of fuck gets vigilante and never posts?

krndandaman, TL Mafia XXII I believe. Day 1 modkill, Vigilante role.

Also, OneSnakeOnATrain aka Redtooth, Smurf game. He wasn't modkilled, but he didn't post during the first day at all and got himself lynched as a result.
Uff Da
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
June 08 2010 04:46 GMT
#1023
Shouldn't all mafias have tried to vote for and convince the town to lynch MooCow?

If deuce is a mafia, they obviously would rather have MooCow lynched.
If deuce is townie, they would still rather have MooCow since he was more active. Less activity makes it easier for them to lurk and hide.

Now they most likely wouldn't risk to start the bandwagon, but rather jump on it later.

Those who voted for MooCow were:
AcrossFiveJulys
DCLXVI
Misder
BrownBear
zeks
sputnik.theory
onihunter
DarthThienAn (x3)
LunarDestiny

That's a fairly short list considering there are 6 mafias. Can't be completely certain they are all in there obviously, but starting with these guys should be the best option.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 08 2010 04:59 GMT
#1024
On June 08 2010 13:46 Zyrre wrote:
Shouldn't all mafias have tried to vote for and convince the town to lynch MooCow?

If deuce is a mafia, they obviously would rather have MooCow lynched.
If deuce is townie, they would still rather have MooCow since he was more active. Less activity makes it easier for them to lurk and hide.

Now they most likely wouldn't risk to start the bandwagon, but rather jump on it later.

Those who voted for MooCow were:
AcrossFiveJulys
DCLXVI
Misder
BrownBear
zeks
sputnik.theory
onihunter
DarthThienAn (x3)
LunarDestiny

That's a fairly short list considering there are 6 mafias. Can't be completely certain they are all in there obviously, but starting with these guys should be the best option.


Definitely a good place to start. I'd recommend doing player analysis ala crate to help collect info. Once we have it all in front of us it should be easier to sort through.

Also, if any DTs are looking for work and want to avoid crossing paths with the investigations of others, my door is still open to roleclaims.
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
June 08 2010 05:03 GMT
#1025
On June 08 2010 13:59 YellowInk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2010 13:46 Zyrre wrote:
Shouldn't all mafias have tried to vote for and convince the town to lynch MooCow?

If deuce is a mafia, they obviously would rather have MooCow lynched.
If deuce is townie, they would still rather have MooCow since he was more active. Less activity makes it easier for them to lurk and hide.

Now they most likely wouldn't risk to start the bandwagon, but rather jump on it later.

Those who voted for MooCow were:
AcrossFiveJulys
DCLXVI
Misder
BrownBear
zeks
sputnik.theory
onihunter
DarthThienAn (x3)
LunarDestiny

That's a fairly short list considering there are 6 mafias. Can't be completely certain they are all in there obviously, but starting with these guys should be the best option.


Definitely a good place to start. I'd recommend doing player analysis ala crate to help collect info. Once we have it all in front of us it should be easier to sort through.

Also, if any DTs are looking for work and want to avoid crossing paths with the investigations of others, my door is still open to roleclaims.


I agree that it is a good place to start. However, I encourage town to be wary of using this list as a sort of end-all solution to catching Mafia. Assuming that the outcome was positive for Mafia no matter who was lynched, they'd have likely spread their votes between all three candidates for lynching, rather than pile on MooCow just because he was more active. That's the kind of move that traps you later on in the game, and I like to think that the opposition has more sense than that.
Think. :)
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 08 2010 05:03 GMT
#1026
Epic vote. Regardless of the shitty outcome, you have to admit it was quite theatrical.

And yeah... all of us on the MooCow train damned ourselves just a little bit by doing that. I'm prepared to defend myself as to why I thought it was a good idea to vote for him, if necessary, but briefly from what I see, the list consists of a LOT of active players - AFJ, myself, DTA, LD, zeks, oni... I think it's far more likely that the mafia stayed silent on the Deuce bandwagon, rather than risking drawing attention to themselves.
SUNSFANNED
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 08 2010 05:27 GMT
#1027
On June 08 2010 13:46 Zyrre wrote:
Shouldn't all mafias have tried to vote for and convince the town to lynch MooCow?

If deuce is a mafia, they obviously would rather have MooCow lynched.
If deuce is townie, they would still rather have MooCow since he was more active. Less activity makes it easier for them to lurk and hide.

Now they most likely wouldn't risk to start the bandwagon, but rather jump on it later.

Those who voted for MooCow were:
AcrossFiveJulys
DCLXVI
Misder
BrownBear
zeks
sputnik.theory
onihunter
DarthThienAn (x3)
LunarDestiny

That's a fairly short list considering there are 6 mafias. Can't be completely certain they are all in there obviously, but starting with these guys should be the best option.

Yeah, I knew it when I recast my vote if MooCow is not mafia. Those who unvote then vote would be highly suspicious.

At that time, I was convinced (well, I am not so sure that deuce is mafia and time is running out so I couldn't do some look up on MooCow) that MooCow was is a better choice. I am also pretty sure that even if people want to change their votes to MooCow that they won't do it to avoid suspicion. So I took that risk and it ended up as a failure.
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 05:33 GMT
#1028
It actually didn't occur to me that I'd have to defend myself if this were to happen lol, what with the last minute decision making and all, so I didn't exactly think too hard about this result...was mostly concerned with whether or not lynching MooCow was more beneficial than the alternative.

I also think it is likely that more people would have switched had the "initiative" started earlier--people probably didn't check the thread/read it all carefully enough to warrant a switch, since I do think AFJ's analysis was solid and worth a shot. Just a thought, though.
jaedong forever~
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 08 2010 05:38 GMT
#1029
Mafia games are always like this. If you vote to lynch the wrong target, you will be suspected. Even more so if you are one of the early bandwagon starters or the very last few who casts the deciding votes. And this applies even if you have good reasons to do so because deception is a big part of the game.
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 05:49 GMT
#1030
Ah, I realize this in retrospect. Anyway, some more math for tonight :D

16 non-mafia, non-leader players remaining, mafia have 3 KP. Still assuming 2 medics and 2 DTs:

Probability of hitting 0 of those roles: 12/16 * 11/15 * 10/14 = 39%, meaning 61% chance mafia will hit AT LEAST one medic/DT. About 10% higher than last time. Iono if this information is particularly useful or not, but I calculated it to satisfy my own curiosity. So there you go in case anyone is wondering.
jaedong forever~
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 08 2010 06:06 GMT
#1031
Onihunter, your math also assumes that neither darth or yellowink is dt or medic.

The mafia also might consider to stack 2 hits on someone that is analyzing in the correct direction.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 08 2010 07:03 GMT
#1032

*Important. Give me your opinion.*

LunarDestiny:
+ Show Spoiler +

Posts since the game began: 122 (I think. He has a lot) I start with post 130. Note that this will be post by post analysis.

Voting history: DarthThienAn for mayor, then YellowInk. Deucegladlier, then MooCow for lynch day 2.

Notes:
+ Show Spoiler +

Bolded numbers signifies an example of him contributing / his important posts.

#130 “Should we roleclaim or not?” – drops the matter pretty quickly lol.
#136 irrelevant
#141 meh
#155 meh
#157 suggests that Flamewheel the Cute might be a clue – this was disproven.
#240 supports me for mayor, reason – I am knowledgeable and got screwed last game.
#263 elaborates, explaining that I’m a good player (<3). Supports lynching inactives (as I do). Gives advice to DTs, medics, vigilante. To DTs: “Do not do what YellowInk is telling you. His action is very suspicious and those who are suspicious should not run for mayor before they are cleared. “ also advises early rolechecks (I approve). To Medic: protect active pro-townies. Vigi: standard “stay back.” Pretty solid advice. –note, suspicious of Yellow because of clues and running for mayor.
#266-68 disapproves of forcing the “DT linking scheme”. More bashing on YI. Disapproves of any clue-linked mayor candidates.
#273, 275, 277 Darth best candidate, Yellow no. Pwning Yellow, lol.
#296 unrelated
#298/299 saying it’s important to have town mayor, ok if pardoner is mafia.
#302/303 says there’s heat on the elected mayor/pardoner, because mafia are likely to get at least one elected.
#306 Pro Mafia Excel List
#312, 319 unrelated
#324 asserts that I’m not necessarily a good candidate, but I’m the best atm.
#330 advises Yellow to stay away from strongly-worded posts that make him look scummy.
#336 “INACTIVE please step up”
#348 stresses previous point about having a town mayor, even with a mafia pardoner. Suggests lynch pardoner day 2, assuming town mayor. A noncommittal/lazy suggestion, didn’t follow up / get responded to iirc.
#351 asking about modkilling inactives. Wants to lynch (day 1) clue-linked inactive (as did I)
#367, 369 says YI posts a lot. Thinks that he’s town based on his (Yellow’s) “Think about it; I post too much to be mafia” argument, which is legitimate (though I word it otherwise, it’s a long argument). Etc. etc., switches his vote to Yellow, advocates Yellow for mayor now.
#377 restates why he’s voting for Yellow.
#381 Thinks Yellow’s arguments suck, but that he is still protown based on attention-attracting. Emphasizes the importance of having a pro-town mayor again.
#383, 384 Follows up on me PMing the inactives to get in the game.
#403/404 expresses his confidence in me/YI being pro-town. Comfortable with me as pardoner and YI as mayor because of the nature of the roles and our styles.
#410/411 doesn’t think BB or zeks is mafia because they only got one vote, but they could be because the support for me/Yellow could have risen too quickly for the mafia to commit.
#417 hm, not much here – says that zeks doesn’t seem that stupid.
#419 unrelated
#423 notes that obvious clues are probably false.
#425 begs for medic protect, labels self as other huge poster (aside from me/YI)
#434 “Either Misder and BrownBear are mafia and Misder voted late.” …wondering why Misder voted for BB. More likely that BB is having bad luck.
#439 example (using self) of how inactivity >> clues for lynch target.
#445 asks AFJ if I PMed him (I didn’t)
#448 Wonders where Icy/LaXer are.
#468 advises me to look at the last minute bandwagoners (which I do ^^) + more begging for protection.
#469, 473 Sweet post tally chart.
#477, 482, 484, 486, 487, 489, 494 unimportant (after end of day 1 post)
#499 active posters are targets for mafia.
#501 more advice to the blues, tells DTs to hold off on letting information out and Vigis to hold off.
#514, 515 Mafia are generally less inactive than townies, or they spam. Brags a bit.
#540, 541 explains his method of judging inactivity.
#547, 549 disagrees with Yellow’s anti-inactivity plan, because mafia can satisfy it and sit back whereas real townies won’t necessarily follow it.
#569 unimportant
#586, 588 confirms onihunters’ math. More “protect me” lol.
#595 says that me/YI are unlikely to be mafia. Says we need to trust them (us? me and yellow, lol grammar)
#600 more about AFJ’s inactivity (an elaboration), backs off, but AFJ needs to step up.
#604/605, 607 uhh. His response to Night 1 results. Not much there. Realizes he wasn’t targeted (lol)
#610, 611 looks at ElyAs’s posts. Gives the important one.
#613, 623, 626 some clue stuff.
#631 calls the person who was hit to step out. Advice for dts to pm their confirmed townie.
#635 thinks DTs should come out, just because of the math. Mentions that he might be godfather =p.
#640 calls the find on TGB and Twilight Fortress brilliant.
#642 unimportant
#644 wonders why barth was targeted as he was relatively inactive.
#646 uhh unimportant.
#661 suggest cluechecking TGB.
#665 unimportant
#682/683, 686 analyzes MTF’s posting.
#710 Calls out Deuce for posting in Kpop but not here. (This is after Deuce’s post)
#720 Calls pyro out on not spending enough time in the game, despite being active in TL.
#734, 736 some math, unimportant
#738 notes that Deuce’s outside post are “decent” unlike his post here.
#746 de-emphasizes clues.
#747, 752 Points out the voting-at-the-same-time between Deuce, LaXer, pyro, and CompX. Suggests they might be mafia together. Votes for Deuce based on this (and everything else).
#756 basically says TGB-clues are disproven/he has discarded them.
#761 comment about time zones.
#764 more about “TGB clues are weak”
#767, 772, 775 Deuce > TGB
#777, 780 Points out that LaXer had one of the worst ideas I’ve seen this game.
#782 unimportant
#800 MTF is prolly innocent.
#810 eh.
#815 advocates more for Deuce
#895 unrelated
#923 Favors keeping the active posters (this is during the intense period just before voting ended).
#928, 932 not much here.
#945, 953, 955 is tempted to switch, switches.

More stuff recently that I’m not going to analyze because I haven’t looked the thread since.


*Thoughts:

Looking at him this closely, I realize that he’s not as pro-town as I originally though. His posts aren’t as great as I thought, and anyone can make up pretty charts – mafia especially would be attracted to doing that sort of thing because it’s an easy way to appear pro-town while not actually contributing. He doesn’t have all that many great ideas, tbh.

Things that stick out to me:
-Cries for medic protection. Possible mafia move to take medic protection away from other people – he emphasizes this more than he needs to which is why it sticks out (even doing a follow-up wondering why he wasn’t hit. An “innocent” act imo)
-lol, both days he advocated for one person, and then ended up switching to the other side. The Darth -> Yellow switch is more significant (he may have been following the crowd on this one. Is he a sheep-herded townie, or is he a mafia trying to follow the bandwagon?). He doesn’t like Yellow, or his play style, but he votes for him because of Yellow’s “poor logic” which says that a poster as active as Yellow is probably not mafia. The one from last night is an interesting situation because he said so himself – whoever makes the killing switch is going to look really suspicious despite being “baller”. He’s the one that ends up doing it, which instinctively isn’t suspicious, unless you think that he might be playing mafia mindgames. The initial comment is what makes this suspicious to me, because he had sided heavily with Deuce and not pegging active posters, but then ended up switching “reluctantly”. Something to note.
-Thought he has a high post count (possibly the highest of us all), a lot of his posts are fairly short – a few paragraphs at most – and he often does a rapid-fire posting style where he posts several times in the same time frame, and not necessarily in response to recent things (like a posting conversation). Instead, some things are edits, about 10-20% of his posts are unrelated/unimportant, and about 20% of his posts could have been combined, imo. So don’t be fooled by his high post count – he’s only contributing as much as maybe MTF or crate, maybe me in terms of length. In terms of CONTENT, he’s lacking imo. A lot of game theory, etc. He doesn’t give good, solid analysis on specific people at all, or if he does, it’s very short and only happens a couple times (I can’t think of any times).
-Someone has mentioned that he’s overly suggestive about being GF, and it’s true, but this is just bonus.
So, to cut this short, I think it’s likely that LD is mafia. He’s the perfect example of an active poster who’s not actually contributing all that much. A lot of his posts are just responses to people with really obviously bad ideas. Maybe I’m being harsh on him because I expected more from my original impression, and maybe I’m just as bad. But, tell me what you guys think.

Possibly connected to: Dude I dunno. Me, YellowInk, MTF, TGB, the people he accused, screw this, I dunno how to do this lol.



LD YOU POST TOO MUCH KTHX. I DONE WITH ANALYSIS NOW.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 08 2010 07:20 GMT
#1033
On June 08 2010 13:37 DCLXVI wrote:
Well that was quite the eventful vote. So much for me thinking that my vote switch would amount to nothing... Where does this put AFJ? no mafia could be stupid enough to try to convince the town to switch vote to a townie that obviously - unless he thinks that we will think that. I guess deuce is a much better lynch target now since we switched away from him and hit a townie. Is it too early to use a double lynch? - as in should we save them. I think this puts deuce and AFJ on the same side, whether it be townie or mafia, or at least deuce mafia if AFJ is mafia.


We have to vote to use the double lynch the day before. So we'd have to agree on a double lynch on day 3, and we would use the double lynch day 4. A long process, but one I think would be good at this point. We should be able to get some good clues tonight / some more leads on people, etc.

It's unlikely that AFJ is mafia since Decue had such a high vote count UNLESS 1) Deuce is mafia and 2) AFJ is mafia along with zeks, and some of the others who voted.


On June 08 2010 13:40 Hugoboss21 wrote:
Damn a vigi modkilled? that suxs.


Show nested quote +
On June 08 2010 11:44 zeks wrote:
Ai....the 3 warned people can you please do something ? Why go through the trouble of signing up for a game that you're not going to play?


SrY, didn't know w/ school it would be hard to follow this game much. I'll try to be more active =/



Lame excuse zzzz. -_-.


On June 08 2010 13:46 Zyrre wrote:
Shouldn't all mafias have tried to vote for and convince the town to lynch MooCow?

If deuce is a mafia, they obviously would rather have MooCow lynched.
If deuce is townie, they would still rather have MooCow since he was more active. Less activity makes it easier for them to lurk and hide.

Now they most likely wouldn't risk to start the bandwagon, but rather jump on it later.

Those who voted for MooCow were:
AcrossFiveJulys
DCLXVI
Misder
BrownBear
zeks
sputnik.theory
onihunter
DarthThienAn (x3)
LunarDestiny

That's a fairly short list considering there are 6 mafias. Can't be completely certain they are all in there obviously, but starting with these guys should be the best option.


I'll agree. This list is a good place to look. I wouldn't bet on 6 of them being in there though. Maybe 2, at most.

BUT!

On June 08 2010 14:03 MTF wrote:
I agree that it is a good place to start. However, I encourage town to be wary of using this list as a sort of end-all solution to catching Mafia. Assuming that the outcome was positive for Mafia no matter who was lynched, they'd have likely spread their votes between all three candidates for lynching, rather than pile on MooCow just because he was more active. That's the kind of move that traps you later on in the game, and I like to think that the opposition has more sense than that.


Use the list as a guide. Analyze me by all means (I'm pretty sure my posts haven't been THAT great all game). I looked through LD already fairly closely - feel free to double check my analysis if you're up to the challenge of going through all his posts lol.


Personally, I already stated why I preferred lynching MooCow over Deucegladlier. From my perspective, the Deuce bandwagon had already formed. Like several people pointed out (some in PMs to me), there was a LOT of Deuce-hate. I'll agree that he was retarded, etc.but there were some pretty random voters out there - it's the people who vote without a good explanation that you have to watch out for. I'll have to go back and look at that voting group more closely soon.

Lynching MooCow, on the other hand, offered much more information. I wish it was earlier so that more people could have been given the opportunity to switch, but even seeing the switchers now will give me more information, especially since MooCow flipped town. The people who were posting in thread and here for that potential switch BUT DIDN'T SWITCH are less likely to be mafia to me, because as Zyrre said, MooCow is a better target regardless of Deuce's alignment. But the people who simply weren't here don't get that bonus credibility =p.

It's not certain that anyone in the MooCow voter list is mafia, but it's another step to them being potential mafia. Looking quickly, I don't remember sputnik offering any explanation at all. AFJ and Misder and zeks had fairly convincing arguments as well - I'll have to look closely at those to see whether or not they actually make sense if you think about it. I forget why BB and onihunter switched.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 08 2010 09:08 GMT
#1034
Just woke up. Fuck.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 08 2010 13:50 GMT
#1035
My final starts in 2 hours and I do not know why I am so addicted to this...

In this game, I played with the intention that I want town to win even if I have to make myself suspicious
. Darth got most of his analysis on me correct but I want to add more, not to protect myself, but in a third person point of view.


The asking for medic protection is very mafia like.

I played very active and have significant influence in the entire game. It is to the mafia's benefit that a medic waste his night protect on a mafia to decrease the chance that mafia's target be killed. If I am really a townie as I claimed, it is to the town's benefit that I take the mafia hit for our blue role (damn Icysoul and your wasted day kill ability).

Everyone can make chart

Darth missed a critical reason for this. In the last mafia game I played (Bang Bang Mafia) where I was the godfather, I also made some kind of charts for town and the mafia as well. In the mafia thread, I stated that if I make the chart about who can be who, the mafia's version of the chart would be better than town's chart.

Less content posts and high post counts are always the characteristic of my post

If you check the past mafia game I played (3 kingdoms and bang bang), you will see that my posts are very similar to posts to this game. I think I gotten better after each game I played so my content in this game might be even better than my previous two games.

My playing style is somewhat different

Even though this game has clues pointing to mafia, I don't emphasis too heavily on them because the clues are vague and can be very misleading. I only relate to them if I want to make a counter claim. I prefer to use behavior analysis and other kind of analysis (like voting timing, activity in game, reaction to post) that are somewhat unique.
End of third person point of view.

After the result of night 1 that I might have wasted a medic protection, I decided that I want the town to win even if it costs my life. I have regularly pointed out my actions in this game are very suspicious because I had too much influence on the game.

I started both bandwagon for Darth and YellowInk (who both I still believe are pro town because of pming to inactives (who the confrimed barth is dead as a townie) and posting history respectively). I prevented a possible bang wagon of lynching TheGilaBoys because the lack of concrete reasons for the lynch. Looking back, I never really state very good reason for lynching Deuce except for his inactivity and almost zero contribution to town. But I kind of rallied the bandwagon for lynching him because I think he is a better target than TheGilaBoys. I changed my vote to MooCow not because I have my reason doing so but my feeling that Deuce is mafia is not strong and others have strong belief that MooCow is mafia.

Now what to do for me:
1)I can be more passive and not start any band wagon in the future. And deal with my case in a later time.

2)A detective could probably clear me of doubt being mafia. I don't recommend this before the Miller is still not to be found. As the number of people alive in game decreases, my chance of being a miller increases. Again, a dt check still doesn't clear me 100% because there is still the suspicion of me being the godfather. Either way, I think detectives should use their checks on others.

3)Lynching is the third choice. My influence on the game is debatably the highest in the game. I still feel good about my influence on the election. But my influence and decision on day 2 lynch turned out to be bad. Maybe if we lynched TheGilaBoys or Deuce, a mafia will be killed.

To clear confusion in town, the best possible decision is the lynching of myself but it will waste a lynch. The alternative is to do a double lynch of me and another person so that the is will be quicker to lower the kill power of the mafia and to avoid mafia having more influence to the lynch voting.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 08 2010 13:54 GMT
#1036
Also, I have no side victory condition that I win by having myself lynched.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 08 2010 13:58 GMT
#1037
ERROR:
Now what to do with me:
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
June 08 2010 16:54 GMT
#1038
Should we be encouraging our vigi(s) to hit specific targets tonight? Hopefully we've got at least one left (usually 2-3 per game right?). I'm not sure but I'm leaning towards asking them to hold off until night 3 since we have no solid suspects (well, except deuce and a few other inactives), but having a discussion now wouldn't hurt.
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 08 2010 17:10 GMT
#1039
On June 09 2010 01:54 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Should we be encouraging our vigi(s) to hit specific targets tonight? Hopefully we've got at least one left (usually 2-3 per game right?). I'm not sure but I'm leaning towards asking them to hold off until night 3 since we have no solid suspects (well, except deuce and a few other inactives), but having a discussion now wouldn't hurt.


Asking a vigi to make a hit is like an immediate double lynch. If we weren't ready for that yesterday, how can we even consider it at this juncture where we have no significant leads? Unless you think that by leading the derailing bandwagon it should be on your head? I don't really follow your logic.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
June 08 2010 17:21 GMT
#1040
On June 09 2010 02:10 YellowInk wrote:
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On June 09 2010 01:54 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Should we be encouraging our vigi(s) to hit specific targets tonight? Hopefully we've got at least one left (usually 2-3 per game right?). I'm not sure but I'm leaning towards asking them to hold off until night 3 since we have no solid suspects (well, except deuce and a few other inactives), but having a discussion now wouldn't hurt.


Asking a vigi to make a hit is like an immediate double lynch. If we weren't ready for that yesterday, how can we even consider it at this juncture where we have no significant leads? Unless you think that by leading the derailing bandwagon it should be on your head? I don't really follow your logic.


Look YI, I feel bad about the MooCow situation but I don't think it hurt us any more than lynching deuce would have. I'm not going to be doing things any differently just because of it.

My post was more of whether we should ask vigi(s) to hit someone or whether we should ask them to hold off for tonight -- because we've done neither afaik.

I would hope that if you are a vigi and are trigger happy tonight you've selected a very good target. Otherwise, as YI said, my opinion is that you hold off.
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