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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:18 YellowInk wrote: Have you looked at my profile? There's nothing else in the entire opening flavor even close to linking to me, so if there's a clue pointing my way, it's the hot ink. If I were mafia, putting myself up like this would probably get me hung on day 2 or 3. Contrast this to anyone else who could run for mayor. There would be no way to even get close to cleaning them. If a mafia ends up winning this election, immune to rolechecks and no way to even try to investigate them, it can be absolutely devastating. Also, the DT can't use rolecheck 3 days in a row, but they can rolecheck consecutive nights. Your misquote of the rules makes me suspicious as to whether this was intentionally misleading or simply an error. I surely hope the real DTs read their roles carefully. I don't exactly see how you putting yourself up like this would get you hung if you were Mafia but maybe i'm just stupid lolol. We could cluecheck the ink without having you as mayor mirite? At this point voting for you is a gamble that I'm not sure I'm willing to take. And, a lot of the other clues have very few candidates as well; you aren't exactly unique in this regard. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Profiles 1. TheGilaboy 4. crate 7. onihunter 8. MooCow 14. zeks 16. YellowInk 17. DCLXVI 18. TyranoS_NiveK 19. jiabung 21. LaXerCannon 29. deconduo Pics 1. TheGilaboy 4. crate 7. onihunter 8. MooCow 14. zeks 16. YellowInk 17. DCLXVI 18.TyranoS_NiveK 21. jiabung 19. LaXerCannon 29. deconduo | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:18 YellowInk wrote: Have you looked at my profile? There's nothing else in the entire opening flavor even close to linking to me, so if there's a clue pointing my way, it's the hot ink. If I were mafia, putting myself up like this would probably get me hung on day 2 or 3. Contrast this to anyone else who could run for mayor. There would be no way to even get close to cleaning them. If a mafia ends up winning this election, immune to rolechecks and no way to even try to investigate them, it can be absolutely devastating. Also, the DT can't use rolecheck 3 days in a row, but they can rolecheck consecutive nights. Your misquote of the rules makes me suspicious as to whether this was intentionally misleading or simply an error. I surely hope the real DTs read their roles carefully. I mean, to be fair, all your profile is is you repeating YellowInk over and over. So if the mods were to make a clue, it would be related to... well, YellowInk, not something like swimming or whatever. Until you prove what else the printer explosion could be pointing to, you're definitely suspicious as mafia. Why would we elect you as mayor, if you're suspected to be mafia? ... "If I were mafia, putting myself up like this would probably get me hung on day 2 or 3." Maybe that's what you want. Trade a mafia for a cop and take the mayor spot/protection away? On June 03 2010 13:23 zeks wrote: They can rolecheck consecutive nights now? I bolded the parts you were talking about. Correct me if I'm wrong. Detective You have the ability to make night investigations. Once per night phase, you may PM me to ask one of the following, which I will answer: 1. Does X contain a clue? (Where X is part of a Day post) (called a "Clue Check") 2. Does X contain a clue that points to Y? (Where X is part of a Day post and Y is a player's name) (called a "Clue Check") 3. What is Y's role? (Where Y is a player's role) (called a "Role Check") X can be no larger than one sentence. Only 3 Role Checks may be performed per DT per game. You may not use more than 2 Role Checks in a row. Clue checks have unlimited uses. My point is that you can turn negative from that clue check with the printer ink, but you can still be positive from another clue check down the road. Role checks are not Clue Checks. So... yeah. 2 role checks consecutively, max. | ||
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MooCow
1434 Posts
Was going to say the same thing also at most people have only 1-3 things linking them to the day 1 clues and some of them are a bit of a stretch. So I assume any info the DT's find are told to everyone in this thread about clues etc? | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:29 MooCow wrote: I agree with Onihunter on this one, I too can't see why you would get hung earlier. Was going to say the same thing also at most people have only 1-3 things linking them to the day 1 clues and some of them are a bit of a stretch. So I assume any info the DT's find are told to everyone in this thread about clues etc? I believe only DT's know what they find. They can of course post their findings but that requires a roleclaim. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:27 bumatlarge wrote: Just making a list of all suspects based soley on clues, in no particular order. Feel free to tell me if we are missing any. Profiles 1. TheGilaboy 4. crate 7. onihunter 8. MooCow 14. zeks 16. YellowInk 17. DCLXVI 18. TyranoS_NiveK 19. LaXerCannon 29. deconduo Pics 1. TheGilaboy 4. crate 7. onihunter 8. MooCow 14. zeks 16. YellowInk 17. DCLXVI 18.TyranoS_NiveK 19. LaXerCannon 29. deconduo I think 21 jiabung should be added because in his profile he makes mention of driving a van a few times, and we did have someone get killed by a car. Van doesn't equal car, but it's still worth note I think | ||
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:06 MooCow wrote: I see, this is my first time playing, so it would be really important to get a DT or someone to check the potential mayor candidates before we vote them in right? If the DT's find anything can it be told to the public or is it private information? Looking at everything so far Zeks seems like a potential mafia and there's too little info for Yellowink. DT actions are night moves like most actions in mafia. The DT PMs the mod with the action and th mod PMs back with the results. The DT could announce results in the thread (roleclaiming DT) but if people don't believe him, there's no way you can prove it directly. Mafia close to hanging will sometimes roleclaim DT and point at someone else for a hanging, making things a muddy mess since a real DT would commonly claim before dying as well. Then it's a matter of sifting the truth from the lies. I strongly recommend all town blue roles to keep it secret for as long as you can. If mafia knows you're DT, for instance, the mafia will probably kill you the following night. There was a comment made earlier that a DT can build an 'inner circle' of people they trust - since they can rolecheck people and find them to be town they can spread their information to these townies. The only hitch to this is that if the DT investigates the godfather they'll find something townie aligned, so they could end up with a traitor in their midst. I highly advise any DTs to read up on mafia strategy in playing this role. It's probably the most important blue role we have and requires a good deal of finesse. I'd advise the same for everyone (esp other blue roles), but DTs are probably the most complicated of the bunch. It's also worth noting that once I'm cleaned by a DT as mayor, it would allow you to include me in your circle. Since as mayor I would be nearly immune to hits (at least so long as a bodyguard is still alive), it would ensure the information can be safely kept secret without risk of being taken to the grave. | ||
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:29 MooCow wrote: I agree with Onihunter on this one, I too can't see why you would get hung earlier. Was going to say the same thing also at most people have only 1-3 things linking them to the day 1 clues and some of them are a bit of a stretch. So I assume any info the DT's find are told to everyone in this thread about clues etc? I assume flamewheel will pm the DT in response. And I don't think any DT would want to make him/herself a big target by announcing his/her role by posting flamewheel's response. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
To whoever asked the question about Day 1 Lynch - "Mayor You won the election! You have to PM me before the end of Day 1 with the name of the player you would like lynched on Day 1 if you win. You can't choose the Pardoner as the Day 1 lynch victim. Your votes count as three votes instead of one. You cannot be Role Checked by a DT." so no, no votes toward day 1 lynch. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
yellowink zeks darth for mayor, wouldnt hurt to have more choices and opinions, as clues seem to splurge into a billion directions so early into the game. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
11pm in 48 hours is the deadline, hope to see very small portion of inactives. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:27 onihunter wrote: I don't exactly see how you putting yourself up like this would get you hung if you were Mafia but maybe i'm just stupid lolol. We could cluecheck the ink without having you as mayor mirite? At this point voting for you is a gamble that I'm not sure I'm willing to take. And, a lot of the other clues have very few candidates as well; you aren't exactly unique in this regard. The difference between me and others is that many of them are less clear and overlap. I would be willing to bet that we could try to put together a comprehensive list of how all the clues possibly attach to any of the profiles and there would be at least one mafia who we missed in that list. If someone has multiple clues that could possibly point to them, they're a poor candidate for mayor since it would take several days to clean them. Because I have a singular clue, it puts me in the position to be cleaned efficiently. Yes, if I am not elected to mayor, I'm sure a DT will still check my clue out and find that I am town. In this case I will be supportive in any way that I can. The point of electing me to mayor is that I can be efficiently cleaned in office where others can not. You will always have to wonder if the mayor is red. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:35 DarthThienAn wrote: On another note, I'm running for Mayor (/Pardoner I guess). Personally, I think being active, keeping up with the thread, and actually spending time analyzing players is the most important part of the game. And that's what I plan on doing, which is why you should vote for me ^^. A mayor that goes missing is NOT cool. To whoever asked the question about Day 1 Lynch - "Mayor You won the election! You have to PM me before the end of Day 1 with the name of the player you would like lynched on Day 1 if you win. You can't choose the Pardoner as the Day 1 lynch victim. Your votes count as three votes instead of one. You cannot be Role Checked by a DT." so no, no votes toward day 1 lynch. I will match this, of course. :D I have a love of games. You won't see me disappearing either. I have to say that I am glad to see so many people enthusiastic in here. It's good to see a lively start. | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to say that I am not going to be running for Mayor/Pardoner. I will, however, be watching all of you who choose to do so very closely.  Good luck to all, excepting the Mafia brethren. By the way, + Show Spoiler + ranging from sniffing poison in his coffee cup Decafchicken is clearly Mafia. | ||
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:42 YellowInk wrote: The difference between me and others is that many of them are less clear and overlap. I would be willing to bet that we could try to put together a comprehensive list of how all the clues possibly attach to any of the profiles and there would be at least one mafia who we missed in that list. If someone has multiple clues that could possibly point to them, they're a poor candidate for mayor since it would take several days to clean them. Because I have a singular clue, it puts me in the position to be cleaned efficiently. Yes, if I am not elected to mayor, I'm sure a DT will still check my clue out and find that I am town. In this case I will be supportive in any way that I can. The point of electing me to mayor is that I can be efficiently cleaned in office where others can not. You will always have to wonder if the mayor is red. I dunno, the fact that you're trying so hard makes me suspicious...but nonetheless you have a very valid point. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:46 YellowInk wrote: I will match this, of course. :D I have a love of games. You won't see me disappearing either. I have to say that I am glad to see so many people enthusiastic in here. It's good to see a lively start. Sounds good to me. I'm not sure why everyone's railing on your plan. It makes sense to me. I mean, combined with a promise of activity =p. On June 03 2010 13:48 MTF wrote: Haha, back from work to see the thread has already grown by four whole pages! Good to see activity. However, don't run away with the clues just yet, people. It is extremely easy to point the finger at any given person with such a limited pool of information. Go ahead and collect which words/sentences you think are relevant, write them down somewhere you can find them again, and then wait. We aren't going to catch anybody by the clues in Day 1 (supposing there even are any in said post). We need to find consistency over several days, first. Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to say that I am not going to be running for Mayor/Pardoner. I will, however, be watching all of you who choose to do so very closely. Good luck to all, excepting the Mafia brethren. By the way, + Show Spoiler + ranging from sniffing poison in his coffee cup Decafchicken is clearly Mafia. Yeah the activity level is great. It might be that we have 30 players in this game, but hey, I'm not complaining. +1 on this post, minus the spoiler. Everyone read it twice. It's a good starting point, especially with directing the day 1 lynch, but we don't want to get TOO carried away. | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:42 YellowInk wrote: Yes, if I am not elected to mayor, I'm sure a DT will still check my clue out and find that I am town. In this case I will be supportive in any way that I can. The point of electing me to mayor is that I can be efficiently cleaned in office where others can not. You will always have to wonder if the mayor is red. I have a problem with this logic being used as your selling point. Primarily because it is operating under several assumptions: 1. There are clues in the opening post. 2. That specific (and too obvious) clue would have to point to you. 3. No other (more vague) clues could. That said, you seem alright so far. Just saying that the logic behind this particular point doesn't flesh out well. | ||
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