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On April 09 2010 11:04 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 11:02 JeeJee wrote:On April 09 2010 10:56 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 09 2010 09:29 JeeJee wrote:On April 09 2010 09:11 ~OpZ~ wrote:
JeeJee...The argument isn't the point. Ignore my vote for Caller. Ignore Abensons. I'm not discussing them. I've justified my intentions to him. Your claim rests on saying Infund/Citizen lied about their claims. Mine rests on Caller lying again.
You say infund/citizen lied multiple times? Caller has lied too.
For instance "Oh hai I'm israeli Cop, Meeples scum"
"Nah sike, I'm JAPAN"
"I don't have anyway of protecting myself from nukes!"
Honestly, Caller's lied about everything at least once. Country, Role, Anti-nukes. Role, MAYBE by a slight possibility he only INADVERTENTLY lied. Oh I don't deny caller's claim is a clusterfuck of a situation in and of itself. I have stated this multiple times myself. But here's why I choose citizen over caller: citizen lied about his actual ROLE, whereas caller lied about his country and antinuke arsenal. As far as I know, what country you are has no bearing on anything, and lying about not having antinukes is a typical selfish move you can expect from any player of any alignment on day 1. There's much to be gained and nothing to be lost. On the other hand, saying you're X role, but actually have Y powers, well, that makes sense in very few scenarios. For example claiming triggerhappy when you're actually DT will deter mafia from hitting you. Check. Claiming PGO when you're actually supposed to be a townie makes no sense. But, here's a scenario that does make sense: claiming PGO when you're actually mafia, thus deterring DTs from visiting you. btw you mentioned caller has lied about his role. where was this? if this is actually true (i don't recall this off the top of my head but am ctrl+f'ing the thread right after this post) i may as well reconsider the whole thing because the one thing i held to so far is that at least caller hasn't lied about his actual role. I posted my quote explaining WHY citizen would lie about his role. Then pointed out that Infund claimed PGO AFTER explaining he could only fire nukes as retaliation. Well after. Hunted the post down for you. On the hand hand, there was a nuke stealer you are ignoring, that I posted about earlier. Check the nested quote, Haster's post fuck up, made mine stay hidden. I thanked him for posting MY QUOTE. Caller didn't actually lie about his role, if you believe him to be DT. Inadvertently he may have lied is what I meant IF he is INFACT dt, by being Insane. No need to look. (I addressed most of those points in the post I figured, and addressed them in another post) you're not making any sense. your answer to why citi.zen would lie about his ability to kill people at night is to draw a nuke steal, correct? Here's the problem. He claims he has 3 nukes (enticing a nuke steal) but during the same day he claims PGO. If he wanted to entice a nuke steal, he should have waited with this claim until at least after the night, yes? Many other points you are missing by the way.. should i repost them? Yes please be my guest. He claims it in the same day. I believe Caller should be posting and d3 damn sure needs to make his vote selection. I don't think he'll be on to change it, and this is a very important vote.
ok. before i do though, i want to make sure we're on the same page with this point (can't believe i'm arguing with a mason but anywho..)
you agree he claims it in the same day, great.
therefore, he did not intend to entice a nuke steal, correct?
then, what was the point of changing his claim? recall the circumstances: you FoS citizen, he replies with "I'm PGO". As a response to a FoS to deter DT followup on your FoS, this makes perfect sense. As a way to entice nuke steal it does not.
Are we on the same page here?
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Do remember no one has ever used PGO on here. It doesn't sound like a bull shit claim infund would of just made up. Right?
But yes. We seem to be on the same page. Our arguments defer with whether or not we believe Caller to have visited the PGO at night. I say no.
JeeJee...I really believe you to be confirmed. With the path you are going down is detrimental. I would love it if you nuked me right now JeeJee btw. I still have my retaliation on abenson, and I would love to have another retaliation on you. Abenson will probably be more capable of posting tomorrow, while I will not. This day needs to not end any time soon, and I myself would like two nukes in the air.
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On April 09 2010 11:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Do remember no one has ever used PGO on here. It doesn't sound like a bull shit claim infund would of just made up. Right?
But yes. We seem to be on the same page. Our arguments defer with whether or not we believe Caller to have visited the PGO at night. I say no.
JeeJee...I really believe you to be confirmed. With the path you are going down is detrimental. I would love it if you nuked me right now JeeJee btw. I still have my retaliation on abenson, and I would love to have another retaliation on you. Abenson will probably be more capable of posting tomorrow, while I will not. This day needs to not end any time soon, and I myself would like two nukes in the air.
as far as i recall, nobody has used a roleblocker role as well in TL mafia before this game. i believe zona's setup was the first one to use it (although i did miss quite a few games so i may very well be wrong). However, this isn't important. There's just one version of the roleblocker, and likewise there's just one version of PGO. If it were something else, it would be called something else, plain and simple.
Also, that is not where our arguments differ. You explicitly stated you believe citi.zen lied about his role to entice a nuke steal. And the fact that his nukes weren't stolen you attribute to the fact that he claimed PGO. You can't have it both ways, pick one. THIS is where our arguments differ.
To specify even further, my main argument for picking citizen over caller is that citizen lied about his role whereas caller did not (he did lie about a variety of other things however, which, as i've said, would make him my lynch target in an instant until citizen appeared). Moreover, citizen's lie fits right in with a mafia reaction to a FoS to deter DT checks. It does NOT at all fit in with a townie lie to entice a nuke steal.
This is what I'm trying oh so desperately to convey to you, and you seem to be missing it.
and yeah i'm ready to nuke whenever, although i believe we still have a fair amount of time
I don't believe my judgment is wrong here. We have two people, quite likely but not necessarily on different teams, one of which is a lying roleclaimer, the other one is just confusing as fuck. In a lylo situation (unless it is 6-3 but i doubt it) i can't believe we are not lynching the confirmed lying roleclaimer. It does not get more scummy than this. Nikon demonstrated this much too accurately.
please tell me you understand my position now and understand how yours is not correct wrt nuke stealing and citizen's excuse for lying. then we can move on to the other points. This is the most important though as citizen's lie is my whole basis for lynching him and if it is not fully understood, we're in trouble.
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On April 09 2010 11:07 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 11:04 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 09 2010 11:02 JeeJee wrote:On April 09 2010 10:56 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 09 2010 09:29 JeeJee wrote:On April 09 2010 09:11 ~OpZ~ wrote:
JeeJee...The argument isn't the point. Ignore my vote for Caller. Ignore Abensons. I'm not discussing them. I've justified my intentions to him. Your claim rests on saying Infund/Citizen lied about their claims. Mine rests on Caller lying again.
You say infund/citizen lied multiple times? Caller has lied too.
For instance "Oh hai I'm israeli Cop, Meeples scum"
"Nah sike, I'm JAPAN"
"I don't have anyway of protecting myself from nukes!"
Honestly, Caller's lied about everything at least once. Country, Role, Anti-nukes. Role, MAYBE by a slight possibility he only INADVERTENTLY lied. Oh I don't deny caller's claim is a clusterfuck of a situation in and of itself. I have stated this multiple times myself. But here's why I choose citizen over caller: citizen lied about his actual ROLE, whereas caller lied about his country and antinuke arsenal. As far as I know, what country you are has no bearing on anything, and lying about not having antinukes is a typical selfish move you can expect from any player of any alignment on day 1. There's much to be gained and nothing to be lost. On the other hand, saying you're X role, but actually have Y powers, well, that makes sense in very few scenarios. For example claiming triggerhappy when you're actually DT will deter mafia from hitting you. Check. Claiming PGO when you're actually supposed to be a townie makes no sense. But, here's a scenario that does make sense: claiming PGO when you're actually mafia, thus deterring DTs from visiting you. btw you mentioned caller has lied about his role. where was this? if this is actually true (i don't recall this off the top of my head but am ctrl+f'ing the thread right after this post) i may as well reconsider the whole thing because the one thing i held to so far is that at least caller hasn't lied about his actual role. I posted my quote explaining WHY citizen would lie about his role. Then pointed out that Infund claimed PGO AFTER explaining he could only fire nukes as retaliation. Well after. Hunted the post down for you. On the hand hand, there was a nuke stealer you are ignoring, that I posted about earlier. Check the nested quote, Haster's post fuck up, made mine stay hidden. I thanked him for posting MY QUOTE. Caller didn't actually lie about his role, if you believe him to be DT. Inadvertently he may have lied is what I meant IF he is INFACT dt, by being Insane. No need to look. (I addressed most of those points in the post I figured, and addressed them in another post) you're not making any sense. your answer to why citi.zen would lie about his ability to kill people at night is to draw a nuke steal, correct? Here's the problem. He claims he has 3 nukes (enticing a nuke steal) but during the same day he claims PGO. If he wanted to entice a nuke steal, he should have waited with this claim until at least after the night, yes? Many other points you are missing by the way.. should i repost them? Yes please be my guest. He claims it in the same day. I believe Caller should be posting and d3 damn sure needs to make his vote selection. I don't think he'll be on to change it, and this is a very important vote. ok. before i do though, i want to make sure we're on the same page with this point (can't believe i'm arguing with a mason but anywho..) you agree he claims it in the same day, great. therefore, he did not intend to entice a nuke steal, correct? then, what was the point of changing his claim? recall the circumstances: you FoS citizen, he replies with "I'm PGO". As a response to a FoS to deter DT followup on your FoS, this makes perfect sense. As a way to entice nuke steal it does not. Are we on the same page here?
For the sake of clarity, these are the posts Infund made about our ability:
I can roleclam for you guys as well, though it's nothing exciting: I am China, pro-town, and have 3 nukes. However I am not allowed to nuke anyone unless they nuke me first.
And you said it yourself, the fact that you think my ability (named Paranoid Gun Owner, btw) "sounds" like a mafia ability doesn't mean squat.
And finally:
Clarification: I am only allowed to make retaliation strikes. Yeah, it would be awesome (kinda) to be able to nuke 3 people at once, but that's a no go.
Nothing about not being DT check-able or able to kill any night-time visitor. There was no "second" role claim and no attempt to deter anyone from checking us.
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I think it's been over 24 hours since d3_crescentia posted right? So he has 6 hous from now to post/vote or he is modkilled (unless someone who hasn't played yet replaces him).
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By the way, since I took over I've also offered the same consistent explanation of my role, which I thought you fully understood judging by this post:
On April 07 2010 03:12 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 03:08 JeeJee wrote:On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Nemy...I was defending you homie...
Why so defensive?
Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.
Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you... retaliate = nuking people that nuke you no idea why you separate the two as if they are different Right.
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Modkill at this stage?!?! Ahhhhhh GET ME ON THE LINES TO ITALY, GET HIM BACK, GET HIM BACK...I'll be responding soon JeeJee...But I've seen we've been in a bad way all game. The only reason I would prefer the nuke sooner as opposed to later, I won't be active 12 to 8 pm EST tomorrow....I'll be active tomorrow morning and night though....Give me a minute, going to see if the shower is occupied.
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On April 09 2010 11:35 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 11:07 JeeJee wrote:On April 09 2010 11:04 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 09 2010 11:02 JeeJee wrote:On April 09 2010 10:56 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 09 2010 09:29 JeeJee wrote:On April 09 2010 09:11 ~OpZ~ wrote:
JeeJee...The argument isn't the point. Ignore my vote for Caller. Ignore Abensons. I'm not discussing them. I've justified my intentions to him. Your claim rests on saying Infund/Citizen lied about their claims. Mine rests on Caller lying again.
You say infund/citizen lied multiple times? Caller has lied too.
For instance "Oh hai I'm israeli Cop, Meeples scum"
"Nah sike, I'm JAPAN"
"I don't have anyway of protecting myself from nukes!"
Honestly, Caller's lied about everything at least once. Country, Role, Anti-nukes. Role, MAYBE by a slight possibility he only INADVERTENTLY lied. Oh I don't deny caller's claim is a clusterfuck of a situation in and of itself. I have stated this multiple times myself. But here's why I choose citizen over caller: citizen lied about his actual ROLE, whereas caller lied about his country and antinuke arsenal. As far as I know, what country you are has no bearing on anything, and lying about not having antinukes is a typical selfish move you can expect from any player of any alignment on day 1. There's much to be gained and nothing to be lost. On the other hand, saying you're X role, but actually have Y powers, well, that makes sense in very few scenarios. For example claiming triggerhappy when you're actually DT will deter mafia from hitting you. Check. Claiming PGO when you're actually supposed to be a townie makes no sense. But, here's a scenario that does make sense: claiming PGO when you're actually mafia, thus deterring DTs from visiting you. btw you mentioned caller has lied about his role. where was this? if this is actually true (i don't recall this off the top of my head but am ctrl+f'ing the thread right after this post) i may as well reconsider the whole thing because the one thing i held to so far is that at least caller hasn't lied about his actual role. I posted my quote explaining WHY citizen would lie about his role. Then pointed out that Infund claimed PGO AFTER explaining he could only fire nukes as retaliation. Well after. Hunted the post down for you. On the hand hand, there was a nuke stealer you are ignoring, that I posted about earlier. Check the nested quote, Haster's post fuck up, made mine stay hidden. I thanked him for posting MY QUOTE. Caller didn't actually lie about his role, if you believe him to be DT. Inadvertently he may have lied is what I meant IF he is INFACT dt, by being Insane. No need to look. (I addressed most of those points in the post I figured, and addressed them in another post) you're not making any sense. your answer to why citi.zen would lie about his ability to kill people at night is to draw a nuke steal, correct? Here's the problem. He claims he has 3 nukes (enticing a nuke steal) but during the same day he claims PGO. If he wanted to entice a nuke steal, he should have waited with this claim until at least after the night, yes? Many other points you are missing by the way.. should i repost them? Yes please be my guest. He claims it in the same day. I believe Caller should be posting and d3 damn sure needs to make his vote selection. I don't think he'll be on to change it, and this is a very important vote. ok. before i do though, i want to make sure we're on the same page with this point (can't believe i'm arguing with a mason but anywho..) you agree he claims it in the same day, great. therefore, he did not intend to entice a nuke steal, correct? then, what was the point of changing his claim? recall the circumstances: you FoS citizen, he replies with "I'm PGO". As a response to a FoS to deter DT followup on your FoS, this makes perfect sense. As a way to entice nuke steal it does not. Are we on the same page here? For the sake of clarity, these are the posts Infund made about our ability: Show nested quote +I can roleclam for you guys as well, though it's nothing exciting: I am China, pro-town, and have 3 nukes. However I am not allowed to nuke anyone unless they nuke me first. Show nested quote +And you said it yourself, the fact that you think my ability (named Paranoid Gun Owner, btw) "sounds" like a mafia ability doesn't mean squat. And finally: Show nested quote +
Clarification: I am only allowed to make retaliation strikes. Yeah, it would be awesome (kinda) to be able to nuke 3 people at once, but that's a no go.
Nothing about not being DT check-able or able to kill any night-time visitor. There was no "second" role claim and no attempt to deter anyone from checking us.
read the second quote. He says "my ability, called PGO btw, <random irrelevant stuff here>"
In that very quote he changes his claim to PGO. and a PGO as is widely known, kills any night visitor
anyway this is pointless now. if d3 gets modkilled, if he flips innocent, do we agree to lynch citizen?
obviously if he flips mafia, caller's next, and it should be a cakewalk from there but i seriously doubt this is going to happen unless there are some serious mindgames going on that are way beyond my understanding.
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aTeddyBear has replaced d3_crescentia
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On April 09 2010 11:35 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 11:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Do remember no one has ever used PGO on here. It doesn't sound like a bull shit claim infund would of just made up. Right?
But yes. We seem to be on the same page. Our arguments defer with whether or not we believe Caller to have visited the PGO at night. I say no.
JeeJee...I really believe you to be confirmed. With the path you are going down is detrimental. I would love it if you nuked me right now JeeJee btw. I still have my retaliation on abenson, and I would love to have another retaliation on you. Abenson will probably be more capable of posting tomorrow, while I will not. This day needs to not end any time soon, and I myself would like two nukes in the air.
as far as i recall, nobody has used a roleblocker role as well in TL mafia before this game. i believe zona's setup was the first one to use it (although i did miss quite a few games so i may very well be wrong). However, this isn't important. There's just one version of the roleblocker, and likewise there's just one version of PGO. If it were something else, it would be called something else, plain and simple.
There have been mafia roleblockers in previous games I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but red army 1 I think had them.
Caller's post of what the PGO is had a direct link to a similar role that operated the same way. Two versions. And think about the creative names Ace has given roles? I'm not a Mason. I am a Masonic Shield.
I'm not gonna lie, your arguments are pretty swaying.
Also, that is not where our arguments differ. You explicitly stated you believe citi.zen lied about his role to entice a nuke steal. And the fact that his nukes weren't stolen you attribute to the fact that he claimed PGO. You can't have it both ways, pick one. THIS is where our arguments differ.
You say citizen lied, I say Caller lied. Maybe he didn't want to post the rest of his information about night killing people who come after him?
To specify even further, my main argument for picking citizen over caller is that citizen lied about his role whereas caller did not (he did lie about a variety of other things however, which, as i've said, would make him my lynch target in an instant until citizen appeared). Moreover, citizen's lie fits right in with a mafia reaction to a FoS to deter DT checks. It does NOT at all fit in with a townie lie to entice a nuke steal.
True...Citizen would of done better claiming his nukes were stolen. Smart boy, smart boy....
But stating you have 3 nukes IS pretty enticing. How many nukes were stolen from you JeeJee?
This is what I'm trying oh so desperately to convey to you, and you seem to be missing it.
and yeah i'm ready to nuke whenever, although i believe we still have a fair amount of time
I don't believe my judgment is wrong here. We have two people, quite likely but not necessarily on different teams, one of which is a lying roleclaimer, the other one is just confusing as fuck. In a lylo situation (unless it is 6-3 but i doubt it) i can't believe we are not lynching the confirmed lying roleclaimer. It does not get more scummy than this. Nikon demonstrated this much too accurately.
Very true. We need people to argue. That's how we prevail. Through our discussion. I'm still not convinced of Caller's innocence. It pretty much becomes moot if Ace was just making flavor for the name as he did with me and Abenson.
please tell me you understand my position now and understand how yours is not correct wrt nuke stealing and citizen's excuse for lying. then we can move on to the other points. This is the most important though as citizen's lie is my whole basis for lynching him and if it is not fully understood, we're in trouble.
My position is very much so where I want it to be. It's citizens "lie" vs Caller's "lies."
I understand staying off the radar, but do we really want to think that the town and the mafia were both just puppet mastered by caller? And me and you were both Detectives that one game...we were pretty much puppet mastered against Vivi in Caller's game...I know you remember that...
Ace. Please give d3 a little longer than 6 hours, I'm not really sure he's U.S. because he said something about going to Italy earlier. I'm not even sure when his last post was. Can you prod him via PM? Modkill this late, if he's town ends the game, and if he's mafia...well...it gives the game away...
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Well lets see who this teddy bear feller votes for....
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sorry, it seems i have missed communicating one very important point.
we have confirmation that citizen lied. we do NOT have confirmation that caller lied (at least not yet). This is what boggles me the most here, that we are voting for a 'maybe' over a 'for sure'.
let me elaborate -- citizen claims his ability is to counter nukes. Then he claims his ability is PGO. One of these is a lie. We know this. You bring up the point that he may have left out the piece about killing@night because he wanted to entice a nuke steal. I pointed out how this cannot be the case because he did not wait for night post before he changed his claim.
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True...Citizen would of done better claiming his nukes were stolen. Smart boy, smart boy....
actually i believe this would paint him in an even worse light if it were possible -- after his claim of PGO, someone presumably visits him at night and does not die. This would just mean another lie.
Townies have no reason to do the lies that citizen has made. The ONLY reason that I can see, you have outlined: enticing a nuke steal. However, the events that transpired after rule out this possibility completely. In fact, they actually fit in very well with a mafia choosing to claim PGO in order to stop your FoS from becoming a reality. maybe you actually nabbed a mafia there and caused him to panic?
oh and finally, one nuke was stolen from me
also, re: this latest replacement, i guess this means waiting for a d3 modkill isn't an option, so we are back to discussing citizen vs caller. i'm trying my hardest to explain my position, and i'm pretty sure my judgment is correct here.
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On April 09 2010 12:25 JeeJee wrote:sorry, it seems i have missed communicating one very important point. we have confirmation that citizen lied. we do NOT have confirmation that caller lied (at least not yet). This is what boggles me the most here, that we are voting for a 'maybe' over a 'for sure'. let me elaborate -- citizen claims his ability is to counter nukes. Then he claims his ability is PGO. One of these is a lie. We know this. You bring up the point that he may have left out the piece about killing@night because he wanted to entice a nuke steal. I pointed out how this cannot be the case because he did not wait for night post before he changed his claim. also Show nested quote +True...Citizen would of done better claiming his nukes were stolen. Smart boy, smart boy.... actually i believe this would paint him in an even worse light if it were possible -- after his claim of PGO, someone presumably visits him at night and does not die. This would just mean another lie. Townies have no reason to do the lies that citizen has made. The ONLY reason that I can see, you have outlined: enticing a nuke steal. However, the events that transpired after rule out this possibility completely. In fact, they actually fit in very well with a mafia choosing to claim PGO in order to stop your FoS from becoming a reality. maybe you actually nabbed a mafia there and caused him to panic? oh and finally, one nuke was stolen from me also, re: this latest replacement, i guess this means waiting for a d3 modkill isn't an option, so we are back to discussing citizen vs caller. i'm trying my hardest to explain my position, and i'm pretty sure my judgment is correct here.
Look man....we need more people than just me and you talking here. I have to concede to your logic for now. But again, that is implying Ace took the role from mafia scum and used it word for word how it was to be used. Like I said, it could of just been flavor like my role was.
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oh yes i fully agree.
to be honest i am not sure why the main person i'm mainly talking with is a confirmed mason of all people. you'd think citizen or caller would chime in and say something. after all, THIS LYNCH DECIDES THE GAME.
i'm going to go to sleep, we have more than 9 hours until nuke right? if not i can nuke right now
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just checked, we have roughly 16 hours so sleeptime for me i suppose. i'll be on way before the deadline
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On April 09 2010 12:25 JeeJee wrote:sorry, it seems i have missed communicating one very important point. we have confirmation that citizen lied. we do NOT have confirmation that caller lied (at least not yet). This is what boggles me the most here, that we are voting for a 'maybe' over a 'for sure'. let me elaborate -- citizen claims his ability is to counter nukes. Then he claims his ability is PGO. One of these is a lie. We know this. You bring up the point that he may have left out the piece about killing@night because he wanted to entice a nuke steal. I pointed out how this cannot be the case because he did not wait for night post before he changed his claim. also Show nested quote +True...Citizen would of done better claiming his nukes were stolen. Smart boy, smart boy.... actually i believe this would paint him in an even worse light if it were possible -- after his claim of PGO, someone presumably visits him at night and does not die. This would just mean another lie. Townies have no reason to do the lies that citizen has made. The ONLY reason that I can see, you have outlined: enticing a nuke steal. However, the events that transpired after rule out this possibility completely. In fact, they actually fit in very well with a mafia choosing to claim PGO in order to stop your FoS from becoming a reality. maybe you actually nabbed a mafia there and caused him to panic? oh and finally, one nuke was stolen from me also, re: this latest replacement, i guess this means waiting for a d3 modkill isn't an option, so we are back to discussing citizen vs caller. i'm trying my hardest to explain my position, and i'm pretty sure my judgment is correct here.
No - you do not know I lied. You assume it, based on what you think the definition of the paranoid gun owner is in some other game.
Read every post myself or Inf made - we never claimed to have the ability to hit any night checker. Ever. Had we intended the role claim to be a deterrent for a DT you think we might have mentioned that part, no?
Also, you claim you do not know Caller lied yet? So you think he is both Israel and Japan? And you find it rational for him to claim DT to "stay low and not be a mafia target"? Please explain to me how this laying low business works - I thought the mafia wants to kill DTs, no?
The longer this is going on the more I think you are red. A rational person would not miss these simple facts and constantly try to distort them.
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Who is aTeddyBear and why does his name remind me of Midas.
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anyone considered lynching haster or LMNOP? (:
afk more sorry I can't be more active
##vote citizen because people who are probably townies are voting for him and they probably need my vote ^^
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On April 09 2010 13:31 Iaaan wrote:
anyone considered lynching haster or LMNOP? (:
afk more sorry I can't be more active
##vote citizen because people who are probably townies are voting for him and they probably need my vote ^^
You already voted for me and your vote still counts.
Thanks for the new arguments though. Are you saying Caller is likely town but Abenson and OpZ are not? Which people are we talking about exactly?
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Dear town, I am still here. Internet is retardedly expensive in the hotel I'm currently in (10 euro an hour? wtf), so it's hard for me to make any substantive posts. I'll be saving the thread so I can read it while I'm offline and make a real post soon.
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